# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 383
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7641 "2009-12-14T20:01:50Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > I’ve only run H Pit of Saron once, but the Felglacier Bolter dropped that time, which made me a very happy hunter. 😃 And I’m working on piling up triumph to get the 232 T9 gear since frost is going to take me a while. Just a note that unless your are BM I wouldn’t really try for the 4-piece T9 - the bonus just doesn’t help that much for MM/SV hunters. The off-set Shoulders are very very nice though, as is the crafted Chest. I would grab your two-piece (from head/hands/legs) and then get the off-set 245 shoulders and grab orbs for the 245 crafted chest and shoulders. Just my experience/opinion. > [@Bosstone](#): > > This is another problem I’ve been having with the system. Sure, it teleports you to the dungeon, which is great, but if you walk _out_ of the dungeon, it takes you to where you were teleported from and you have to manually make your way back to the dungeon portal. > > I ran into this in Forge of Souls and Halls of Stone when all but one of our group wiped. We ghosted and went back into the instance, where the spawn that had killed us came at us at the entrance (since mobs in a dungeon don’t have a leash like regular mobs do). To preserve ourselves since not everyone was back yet, we ran outside…and I found myself back in Dalaran. Not terribly fun. There is a green eye-looking thing attached to your mini-map when you are in the dungeon finder system. If you right-click on it you get a “Teleport to instance” option. That should send you back to the dungeon. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7642 "2009-12-14T20:18:32Z")
Burning Dog Legion: I’m strongly thinking that for the Wednesday night dungeon run, we’ll get our group together as usual, and then use the DF to assign us to a random level- and gear-appropriate dungeon. The benefits to this are: I don’t have to decide which dungeon for us to do, and we get a free Satchel of Helpful Goods which will include a free blue item. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7643 "2009-12-14T20:50:13Z")
[Holy Crap!](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=49623) Me wantz! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7644 "2009-12-14T20:54:31Z")
Winter Veil starts tomorrow! That means it’'s time for crafters to make boots and garb for the AH, and for folks to start hunting small eggs for the cooking. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7645 "2009-12-14T21:23:57Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Burning Dog Legion: > > I’m strongly thinking that for the Wednesday night dungeon run, we’ll get our group together as usual, and then use the DF to assign us to a random level- and gear-appropriate dungeon. The benefits to this are: I don’t have to decide which dungeon for us to do, and we get a free Satchel of Helpful Goods which will include a free blue item. That sounds like an excellent idea, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7646 "2009-12-14T21:32:45Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Bitching about the new PUG thing: I agree on the experience issue. It does take a little bit of time to get used to tanking, especially in the new places where you have to grab several ranged npcs and hold aggro. I’m very forgiving and often try giving them tips, but there is a limit to that. If they’re doing the same thing over and over and it is causing a problem, then I would consider leaving. A lot of people are just farming emblems, but some are still genuinely learning to play. You should know how the group is going to be by the time you get to the first boss. As a pally tank, the only thing that bugs me is dps who pull aggro. It’s damn near impossible to pull aggro away from me, but there was a hunter in one of my groups that insisted on not attacking marked targets and he would always pull aggro off and start taking hits. I told him I’d taunt the npc off him once, but if he keeps doing it I’m using the “You pull it, you tank it” rule. > [@Mekhazzio](#): > > I’ve had surprisingly uniformly good experiences with the new LFG thingie. Everybody I’ve gotten has been competent, reasonably sociable and very well-geared, and the instances have all been pleasant, even to the point of doing some of the more bizarre heroic achievements just for amusement, or sticking together to do the whole trio of Icecrown 5-mans instead of just one. > > It’s the well-geared part that has me suspicious. I think there’s some gear matching going on, because it seems statistically impossible to randomly get full groups of people in high end raid gear again and again. Which means that anyone starting out in lesser gear is in even bigger trouble, because that means they not only get the harder jobs to do with the weakest groups, but it always seems to be the people at the bottom of the totem pole with the biggest sense of entitlement, quick to point fingers at anyone but themselves. I would be very interested in how the lfg system works. The first groups I got into were excellent and then I started to see some newer players (once a freshly dinged 80) that were thrust into the new dungeons. Although the new dungeons are pretty forgiving, it is frustrating at times if the group is impatient. and wants to rush through. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I also got to Honored with the Wyrmrest Accord, after going back and finally clearing the [Wanton Warlord](http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12151) quest that had been lurking in my quest log for way too long, and then doing all three Wyrmrest dailies. I’d done Defending Wyrmrest Temple once before, a long time ago, so I did it again tonight, then flew over to Coldarra where I had to do a few quests to open up the two dailies there. I discovered that the one where you have to capture an Azure Drake Hatchling is painfully easy, and [Aces High](http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13414) is painfully painful. Gratz on your weekend success. Aces High used to be on my list of hardest dailies. Once you get the hang of it, you can fly through it no problem. It just takes a bit of practicing. Right now I’m still hatin’ on the Sons of Hodir dragon-spearing quest. I think I almost have it down! > [@Skammer](#): > > _A vote kick has been initiated for [Tank]_ > I vote No. I waited over 10 minutes for this tank! > _Vote to kick [Tank] fails_. > _A vote kick has been initiated for [Healer]_ > I vote No. > _Vote to kick [Healer] fails_. > Tank: Hey [Healer], someone just tried to vote-kick you. > Healer: Who was it? > Healer: Who was it, just tell me. > DPS1: Not me, it must have been DPS2 or [skammer] > Me: It wasn’t me, I voted ‘no’ both times. Let’s just go. > Tanks: BOTH times? Who else got voted on? ME? > Healer: Just tell us, we won’t get mad. > Tanks: Of course we’ll be mad! > _DPS2 leaves_ > _Healer leaves_ > _Tank leaves_ That made me just about lol at work. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7647 "2009-12-14T23:53:16Z")
> [@Jbone](#): > > Gratz on your weekend success. Aces High used to be on my list of hardest dailies. Once you get the hang of it, you can fly through it no problem. It just takes a bit of practicing. Right now I’m still hatin’ on the Sons of Hodir dragon-spearing quest. I think I almost have it down! I simply gave up on that one - I just don’t do it. So getting to “exhausted” with Hodir takes a couple days longer, big deal - the repair bills from dying while doing the daily was more annoying and painful. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7648 "2009-12-15T00:21:52Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I simply gave up on that one - I just don’t do it. So getting to “exhausted” with Hodir takes a couple days longer, big deal - the repair bills from dying while doing the daily was more annoying and painful. I used to utterly hate it too, until I realized…you can hit the Open Jaws button more than once. I’m very good at avoiding damage in the first phase, but trying to land the killing blow drove me mad before I realized you only get 5% chance per Open Jaws. Once I realized that, it became success on the first try every time. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7649 "2009-12-15T00:24:41Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I simply gave up on that one - I just don’t do it. So getting to “exhausted” with Hodir takes a couple days longer, big deal - the repair bills from dying while doing the daily was more annoying and painful. I think I tried Thrusting Hodir’s Spear maybe three times before I said “screw it”. For me it was mashing buttons to absolutely no apparent effect, and then falling to my death. I decided if the 100-foot-tall guys want the blue dragons dead, they can reach up and swat them out of the air their own selves 😃 Also, once I got Exalted I kept doing the SoH dailies just for the gold and to farm relics/frostweave/crystallized fire & earth, but I stopped doing the one with the ghosty worg as well. That one is just boring: summon ghosty worg and then wait 2-3 minutes for it to find something for me to hit. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7650 "2009-12-15T00:32:45Z")
Just got word that the co-GM of my guild is leaving the guild. He’s the one who keeps the other GM in check. That means his SO will probably be leaving. I’m now wondering who else is going to be headed out the door. My kid who plays horde said his guild is disbanded because they aren’t making progress in ICC. /wrists ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7651 "2009-12-15T00:58:57Z")
… is gonna kick mine and **Wolkie’s** German asses for saying this, but she’s as cute as a button in addition to having a wonderful personality! And my pretty Dondra echoes that emotion!🙂 Thanks, **SFG** , for all you do for us ('specially for me and da **Wolk’**!) Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7652 "2009-12-15T01:00:09Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I think I tried Thrusting Hodir’s Spear maybe three times before I said “screw it”. For me it was mashing buttons to absolutely no apparent effect, and then falling to my death. I decided if the 100-foot-tall guys want the blue dragons dead, they can reach up and swat them out of the air their own selves 😃 Once you get the rhythm down, it’s actually fairly fun. Grip, grip, stab, grip, grip, stab, grip _DODGE_ _STRIKE_ grip, grip, stab, grip, grip, _DODGE_ stab, grip _DODGE_ _STRIKE_ openopenopenopenopenopenopenopen _KILL_ ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7653 "2009-12-15T01:05:32Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Once you get the rhythm down, it’s actually fairly fun. Grip, grip, stab, grip, grip, stab, grip _DODGE_ _STRIKE_ grip, grip, stab, grip, grip, _DODGE_ stab, grip _DODGE_ _STRIKE_ openopenopenopenopenopenopenopen _KILL_ Well that was the problem - I was doing all that _and I couldn’t see anything happening_ except for yellow text yelling at me. I couldn’t even see the dragon actually attacking me - just damage numbers flying around. For that matter, I could never even see myself. Just where, exactly, on the dragon am I? I’m one of those who needs some visual feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7654 "2009-12-15T01:11:32Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I’m one of those who needs some visual feedback. Ah. One of _those_. Kidding, honestly. I myself just ignored what was happening on the screen entirely and focused on the cooldowns at the bottom. The raid warning sound came up whenever you need to dodge, and when you’ve done enough damage the buttons swap out at the bottom. There’s really no need to watch the dragon at all. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7655 "2009-12-15T01:25:38Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > On your minimap there’s a group button when you’re in a group. If you click on the button you’ll see the option teleport back to the dungeon. :smack: Just saw this. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7656 "2009-12-15T14:59:00Z")
Ran Stockades again last night with my lock. It’s fun to get ported in with folks who haven’t done it before: “Whoah! Stockades! We’re in Stormwind!” Heh. Less fun when the DPS Paladin leaves Righteous Fury on, but at least I wasn’t trying to heal. On my main I joined a pug and face-rolled through heroic UP. I need to add some more offensive spells to my healing bar, because these groups are so overgeared I usually sit around during a fight waiting for someone to take damage. I’ve been keeping Shadow Word:Pain up to hurry things along but I might start tossing in some Smites for fun just to give me something to do. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7657 "2009-12-15T15:10:49Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > On my main I joined a pug and face-rolled through heroic UP. I need to add some more offensive spells to my healing bar, because these groups are so overgeared I usually sit around during a fight waiting for someone to take damage. I’ve been keeping Shadow Word:Pain up to hurry things along but I might start tossing in some Smites for fun just to give me something to do. It’s kind of fun tanking those groups. “Oh, damn, I’m losing aggro on that one… never mind, it’s dead.” I was in a Gundrak run and we took down the snake guy before he could get off his first poison nova. Sadly, I whiffed on the third interrupt on the turn-into-a-mammoth guy so I still need that achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7658 "2009-12-15T15:24:21Z")
I got a lot more done last night skipping the Random Dungeon option and instead signing up for a bunch of heroics I like. Sure, Violet Hold and Nexus are pretty much facerolling at this point (even Xevoss doesn’t worry me too much), but it sure as hell beats getting dumped into Heroic Halls of Reflection constantly. I’ll probably give H TOC a spin tonight, and maybe it’ll be worthwhile to run the regular Forge, Pit, or Halls, rather than Heroic. Either way, it’s amazing how quickly running two or three dungeons a night gets you geared up. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7659 "2009-12-15T16:09:14Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Once you get the rhythm down, it’s actually fairly fun. Grip, grip, stab, grip, grip, stab, grip _DODGE_ _STRIKE_ grip, grip, stab, grip, grip, _DODGE_ stab, grip _DODGE_ _STRIKE_ openopenopenopenopenopenopenopen _KILL_ The worst is when you STRIKE when the dragon’s at low enough HP to kill him, and you end up falling to your death. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7660 "2009-12-15T16:10:37Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I’ll probably give H TOC a spin tonight, and maybe it’ll be worthwhile to run the regular Forge, Pit, or Halls, rather than Heroic. Either way, it’s amazing how quickly running two or three dungeons a night gets you geared up. Oh yeah, bragged about this one on guild chat, but I’ve now successfully tanked H ToC, and with the three toughest guys up for the beginning (poison/whirlwind/heals). I think the heals and DPS were all pretty competent though, so it’s not like I was carrying them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=382) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=384)