# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/781 "2009-04-25T23:06:27Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Now that I’m level 80, I’ve come to realize that my gear is mostly (as the kids say) teh sux0r. Does anyone know of a good guide to getting equipped as an 80 hunter? I was able to get geared enough to start the easy raids by using the pointers in this wowhead post: [http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=22358](http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=22358) It also has good hunter-specific info for gemming and enchanting. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/782 "2009-04-26T08:05:25Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Now that I’m level 80, I’ve come to realize that my gear is mostly (as the kids say) teh sux0r. Does anyone know of a good guide to getting equipped as an 80 hunter? When I got to lvl 80 I went to [Elitist Jerks](http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t37146-best_non_raid_mage_gear/) and found this thread. Read through it and built up a game plan for short, medium and long term gear that I could aquire, essentially what could I buy, build or earn through quests or relatively easy to run instances, so that I’d be geared well enough to do heroics and raids. By doing that I’ve since about doubled my spell damage, increased my hit rating in the extreme (important for raids), etc. Sometimes, being elitist jerks and all, it can take some work to sort out what they’re on about, but then you can ask dumb questions here or maybe in Guild chat without being subjected to ridicule. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/783 "2009-04-26T08:10:38Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I have a question about working toward these various Loremaster achievements. I don’t expect to actually get the big meta achievements any time soon, but right now I’m working on **To Hellfire and Back** (Complete 80 quests in Hellfire Peninsula). I’ve completed 73 so far, so I’m almost there, but the thing is that quests seem to be getting scarce. Since I play solo, my question is this: can I get all 80 (or whatever the specific number is depending on the zone) without having to venture into instances? Once you get to Northrend, you may hit one or two of the zones where you need to do group quests to get these done. In Icecrown it gets really tough, for a couple of reasons: 1. You need to do several group quests. 2. Most of those group quests are in areas where the content changes based on what you’ve already done. So you can’t just bring anyone in a group to do them with you. It needs to be others you are also on the same stage, so to speak. It will help if you’re in a guild with folks who will help out and who have gotten to at least the same level of progression in Icecrown. As mentioned by others, quests for instances (and blue daily quests) don’t count towards this achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/784 "2009-04-26T15:14:23Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Once you get to Northrend, you may hit one or two of the zones where you need to do group quests to get these done. In Icecrown it gets really tough, for a couple of reasons: > > 1. You need to do several group quests. Oh maaaaaaaaaaan! :mad: And I suppose in Northrend, with the level cap at 80, I really won’t be able to do my usual “wait 'til I’m 7-10 levels higher than the quest to come back and do it” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/785 "2009-04-26T15:47:06Z")
It depends. I’m geared enough to run heroics in Northrend and have found that I can do many group quests solo as an elemental shaman. You do need to buff well, have the gear, and be able to strategize but it is _possible_ to get most of Northrend done as a solo act. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/786 "2009-04-26T17:20:59Z")
It of course depends on the group quest. I am a squishy mage, so not as good on solo, but the last two I need (for about 3-5 quest credits) are both fairly intense, five player group quests. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/787 "2009-04-26T22:52:16Z")
No, please, okay? WoW can do better in advertising, Kids! BTW, have I told y’all how much I **love** jumping in and helping, stepping back and bowing in order to help someone else level up? I’m like your basic WalMart Greeter, Dude!😃 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/788 "2009-04-27T14:36:46Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > Aha! So having my hunter make and sell potions isn’t the way to wealth after all. She should vend her other wares instead. > > I’ve been finding the dancing hilarious. Admittedly, in my realm, you’re more likely to come upon naked dancing guys rather than girls, though. Ha - you may be right! As my main is Horde, I’ve noticed guys - specifically blood elf males - breaking into dance all over the place (when they really shouldn’t - as Bosstone mentioned they dance like Napoleon Dynamite.) Though oddly, every single time I’ve (clearly not in my right mind) 😉 tried to make a night elf = group of female nelf’s dancing naked in the middle of the newbie zone. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Oh maaaaaaaaaaan! :mad: And I suppose in Northrend, with the level cap at 80, I really won’t be able to do my usual “wait 'til I’m 7-10 levels higher than the quest to come back and do it” thing. I’m with you on this! And it’s not even that grouping is always a bad idea, but something may go wrong, and I always worry that the ‘something’ will be me! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/789 "2009-04-27T14:51:54Z")
On Friday my desktop finally died. ☹ It’s been a faithful old workhorse, but something finally snapped inside and I couldn’t boot up. I managed to recover my hard drives, but there’s no telling what went wrong with the rest of it. I suffered from WoW (and CoH) withdrawal over the weekend. I’ve put in an order for a new computer, but it’s going to take two weeks to build and ship. I have no idea what I’m going to do with myself in that time. It also sucks that I’d finally managed to convince my GF to spend more time on our main duo, and now we won’t get to play together for that long. On the upside, I’m going from a single-core CPU to a dual-core, and all the other parts were about 3 years old or more. I had to settle for last year’s components for my new one to keep the price reasonable, but it’s still going to be more than twice as fast as my old comp. I can’t wait to get WoW and my other games loaded and crank up the graphics. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/790 "2009-04-27T15:28:50Z")
> [@Mekhazzio](#): > > Saronite is special, and only really in one zone, not unlike Fel Iron in Hellfire Peninsula. Icecrown is essentially a long glacial valley wrapped around a central mountain, and the two ridges containing its sides are littered with saronite, conveniently channeled into narrow bands. If you look just after a server restart, it’s positively bristling with the stuff. You just fly along one ridge, cross over at the end, fly up along the other, and you’ve mined up a giant pile of it. > > Which is the other part of the equation - flight. Riding around on even a swift ground mount is absolutely no comparison to the resource vacuuming you can do when you’re zipping about on a fast flyer. Icecrown is great for saronite farming but I’d like to add that Sholazar Basin has a whole ton of saronite in it as well. > [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > Though oddly, every single time I’ve (clearly not in my right mind) 😉 tried to make a night elf = group of female nelf’s dancing naked in the middle of the newbie zone. :dubious: Is this an Alliance thing? My husband was trying to do the “To All the Squirrels I’ve Loved Before” achievement on one of his Horde characters and tabbed out in Elwynn Forest to look up the location of a particular critter that he had to /love. When he tabbed back in, a few nekkid NElves (IIRC) were dancing around him. He waved and headed out. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/791 "2009-04-27T15:35:43Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Icecrown is great for saronite farming but I’d like to add that Sholazar Basin has a whole ton of saronite in it as well. For the record, there’s Fel Iron in Zangarmarsh, too. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/792 "2009-04-27T16:16:22Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > :dubious: Is this an Alliance thing? Well, the Horde doesn’t have any Night Elves, so it must be. 😃 Really, I think it’s just a pervy young kid thing. The NElf females are widely considered the hottest female model in the game (frankly, I just don’t see it, especially with the Burning Crusade races) and have a decently sexy dance, so they get used a lot for it. There might be more to it, but that’s what I see. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/793 "2009-04-27T16:25:24Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > Ha - you may be right! As my main is Horde, I’ve noticed guys - specifically blood elf males - breaking into dance all over the place (when they really shouldn’t - as Bosstone mentioned they dance like Napoleon Dynamite.) > > Though oddly, every single time I’ve (clearly not in my right mind) 😉 tried to make a night elf = group of female nelf’s dancing naked in the middle of the newbie zone. > > I’m with you on this! And it’s not even that grouping is always a bad idea, but something may go wrong, and I always worry that the ‘something’ will be me! 😃 I got to see the male night elf dance, but I haven’t seen the blood elves yet. The next time I play my blood elf, I’ll have to keep a lookout; she’s still at the very beginning, and there should be dancers around. But with my night elf main, it seems that everywhere she goes, there are human guys dancing, usually in varying states of undress. However, I didn’t come across the dancing girls till fairly recently. I hit 40 last night, in between doing silly stuff for Noblegarden. I picked up a new mail outfit since I don’t have to wear leather anymore. None of it matches, though. It looks like she went to the mail clearance shop and just bought whatever fit her. It still does its job, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/794 "2009-04-27T17:38:12Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Well, the Horde doesn’t have any Night Elves, so it must be. 😃 > > Really, I think it’s just a pervy young kid thing. The NElf females are widely considered the hottest female model in the game (frankly, I just don’t see it, especially with the Burning Crusade races) and have a decently sexy dance, so they get used a lot for it. There might be more to it, but that’s what I see. I agree with everything said here - adding to their perceived hotness is that their standing still movement is this little boob-bounce jiggle thing. > [@Telperien](#): > > I hit 40 last night, in between doing silly stuff for Noblegarden. I picked up a new mail outfit since I don’t have to wear leather anymore. None of it matches, though. It looks like she went to the mail clearance shop and just bought whatever fit her. It still does its job, though. Ah yes, the fashion of Wow! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/795 "2009-04-27T19:35:14Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > I agree with everything said here - adding to their perceived hotness is that their standing still movement is this little boob-bounce jiggle thing. > > Ah yes, the fashion of Wow! 😃 Even the night elf NPCs do that, like the sailors on the boat from Stormwind to Darkshore. My boyfriend made so much fun of me when I mentioned the non-matching armor. I’m sorry, I just tend to notice those things. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/796 "2009-04-27T19:48:21Z")
I hate the female Night Elves’ idle motions. It’s really hard to sustain the illusion that your lvl 80 priestess is an honored hero of the Alliance when she randomly jumps up and down and claps and jiggles like a cheerleader. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/797 "2009-04-27T19:57:23Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > Even the night elf NPCs do that, like the sailors on the boat from Stormwind to Darkshore. > > My boyfriend made so much fun of me when I mentioned the non-matching armor. I’m sorry, I just tend to notice those things. Naw - I’m like that too! (For me, the barber shop is a god send!) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/798 "2009-04-27T20:00:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I hate the female Night Elves’ idle motions. It’s really hard to sustain the illusion that your lvl 80 priestess is an honored hero of the Alliance when she randomly jumps up and down and claps and jiggles like a cheerleader. Even _Tyrande Whisperwind_ and the other priestesses in the Temple of the Moon, the Night Elf leaders, bounce in place. It’s sad. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/799 "2009-04-27T21:06:25Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > I’m with you on this! And it’s not even that grouping is always a bad idea, but something may go wrong, and I always worry that the ‘something’ will be me! 😃 Indeed. I’ve made it to lvl 71 and have only grouped three times. The first time was at lvl 60 when some lvl ~45 guys asked me to help them kill some elite dragonkin in the Blasted Lands. We ended up ungrouping when, after 30 minutes or so the beastie still hadn’t respawned. 8 levels later I teamed up with a draenei DK in Nagrand. That teamup went okay. Last of all I teamed with a female gnome DK to help her with some quests in Shadowmoon Valley. Nice kid, but she had this extremely aggravating habit of, the instant she accomplished a quest objective, summoning her mount and making a beeline back to the questgiver. This was a problem because she’d be galloping away before I had even realized she’d summoned her mount, and her beeline would carry her right through every mob in the area, aggroing every single one of them in the process. By the time I could summon my own mount she’d have a good headstart on me and all these freshly-aggroed mobs would be between me and her. Then the mobs would leash back, and suddenly they’d be all over _me_. Thankfully she raced off to Northrend the minute she hit 68 so she’s not begging me for help any more 🙂 > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > :dubious: Is this an Alliance thing? My husband was trying to do the “To All the Squirrels I’ve Loved Before” achievement on one of his Horde characters and tabbed out in Elwynn Forest to look up the location of a particular critter that he had to /love. When he tabbed back in, a few nekkid NElves (IIRC) were dancing around him. He waved and headed out. Well, human females do The Macarena, which isn’t all that sexy; the draenei female dance is nice but not especially “sexual”; nobody really wants to look at nekkid female dwarves; dancing gnomes of either sex are really only good for a chuckle. So … nelfs it is. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Well, the Horde doesn’t have any Night Elves, so it must be. 😃 > > Really, I think it’s just a pervy young kid thing. The NElf females are widely considered the hottest female model in the game (frankly, I just don’t see it, especially with the Burning Crusade races) and have a decently sexy dance, so they get used a lot for it. There might be more to it, but that’s what I see. Yeah, aside from the belfs, nekkid Horde females aren’t all that appealing. What I’d like to know is what little trick/item/spell turns everybody into a flaming miniature dancing draenei female? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/800 "2009-04-27T21:11:27Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Yeah, aside from the belfs, nekkid Horde females aren’t all that appealing. > > What I’d like to know is what little trick/item/spell turns everybody into a flaming miniature dancing draenei female? Bah, the trolls and orcs are shapely, and the trolls can be pretty attractive if they have the minimal/no tusk setup. The firedancing thing is from the Midsummer Fire Festival, I think? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=41)