# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 420
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8381 "2010-01-14T20:13:04Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > [Woot! They added a character view to the Armory!](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&n=Yeticalayla) They sure did! > **[World of Warcraft](https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/?r=Alexstrasza&cn=Wolkenlaufre)** > > Join thousands of mighty heroes in Azeroth, a world of magic and limitless adventure. Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8382 "2010-01-14T20:44:42Z")
Hi everybody! Grats on all the grats-y things. So many exciting new gear and kills and experiences! The new guild is going pretty well so far. It feels sooooooo good to be raiding again, although it’s weird to adjust to a new way of doing things (e.g., having no tank channel is driving me nuts). The ICC fights are fun, for the most part–I can’t believe what a cakewalk the Gunship Battle was. (I got to be the tank who popped over and tanked Saurfang. Wheee jetpacks! And motherfuckin’ Saurfang! That’s right, mister, I took your Cleave and lived to tell about it!) The only fight that’s giving us trouble on 25 is Putricide. Holy shit, that fight is crazy. On our 10th and final attempt for this lockout, we had him down to like 1.7 million–then some unfortunate tank deaths healed him up and pushed him into his hard enrage. IIRC, we were running at least 30 seconds ahead of the timer up until then, so if we can just work on smoothing out the damage spikes that go with the tank swapping in Ph3, we should have it, no problem. Ooh, and I have an ugly new gun: [Rowan’s Rifle of Silver Bullets](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50444). The only real downside is that I now have to carry arrows AND bullets again. (Dear Blizz: WTB combined ammo. PST.) > [@Skammer](#): > > We also did a mostly-guild group random, which turned out to be Drak’Tharon Keep! I was shocked because I haven’t been in there in months; it’s never come up as a random. I’ll trade you! I’ve probably done it a dozen times each on my two 80s. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > The way I figure, someone who’s in “I’m not even supposed to **be** here!” mode isn’t deserving of loot. IMO, that makes you \*\*more \*\*deserving, not less. 😃 Of course, on the other hand, > [@](#): > > It went to one of our more full-time hunters, which I am just fine with. ^ is always the ideal outcome. So kudos to you for doing something you didn’t want to do and not even getting a new shiny out of it. 😃 > [@](#): > > Then Saurfang - Horde PCs see a touching encounter The Alliance version is pretty cool, too. I don’t remember if there’s anything at the start of it, but at the end, Saurfang Sr. shows up to collect the body of his son. > [@](#): > > Two hunters to kite the blood beasts, but we didn’t seem to have the DPS to kill them fast enough as the event progressed further. Do you have any Balance Druids? I’m pretty sure we use Boomkin for the kiting, because of their knockback. And like \*\*winterhawk \*\*said, anything that’s a slow, snare, or knockback will also work. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > That’s not all that’s interesting from that incident at the Wrathgate: > > Apparently Bolvar Fordragon was also claimed during that battle, and you hear at the start that he is still being tortured, IIRC in an attempt to turn him. It’s sad that Dranosh Saurfang caved in (first), since he was quite noble and valiant. Well, really, I’m not sure you can say that Saurfang caved first, as though it’s a 1:1 comparison. The Lich King pretty much owns the hell out of anybody who he can get his hands on dead. Raising a dead Saurfang Jr. as a DK would therefore be much easier than turning Fordragon while he’s still alive, so I don’t think it’s a mark against Saurfang’s constitution or honor or whathaveyou. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > and in any case I guess 5g is nothing to a level 80 Bingo. I regularly blow gold at the AH on things like recipes that I could easily go buy myself for a few silver, just to save myself a trip. So 5g to help out a guildie, even if they didn’t really need it, is no big at all. > [@martu](#): > > Thanks for the tip I didn’t think I could cast anything when that was going on Anything that doesn’t stun you, you can generally keep casting. Anything that flings you around but doesn’t stun you, you can generally keep casting anything instant (i.e., that doesn’t show a cast time or otherwise require you to be standing in one place to do it). > [@Bosstone](#): > > You’ll know when it’s time to turn on your sound, as you’ll be in the camp overlooking the gate. You’ll probably also see yourself get the “Veteran of the Wrathgate” achievement a split-second before the cutscene starts. Tho I’m not sure that you can access your settings after the movie starts playing, so that might not be enough warning. > [@Jas09](#): > > Also, if for some reason you don’t have sound when you get there, you can always have the cutscene replayed by talking to a nearby NPC after the fact and asking “What happened here?” Specifically, Alexstrasza, the big red dragon. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > And whaddayaknow, looked at the AH again last night and there it was for about 1300g Never fails. A few days after I bought the Royal Moonshroud Robe recipe for my Mage for 2500g, that was up for about 1500g, too. > [@](#): > > Interestingly, I’ve recently encountered no fewer than three _dwarf_ questgivers who use “holed/holing up” correctly, so apparently _somebody_ at Blizzard understands the term Honestly, the text on the game is all over the board. They could really stand to hire an editor or two–or at least a proofer. > [@jayjay](#): > > Does that include the drake if you have it? You can always tell what items require a given rep by mousing over them. The tooltip will say something like, “Requires Faction XYZ–Exalted.” I don’t think that’s the exact wording, but you get the jist. If you don’t have the required rep, you’ll see that line in red. (To get a better idea what I mean, go talk to a quartermaster for a faction you’re not yet maxed out with. All the items you don’t have the rep to use yet, you’ll see the rep requirement line in red.) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > I didn’t know me and my gryph could be attacked from the ground, either! There are generally three ways you can be attacked while flying in Outlands: 1.) By flying past a flying enemy. If you keep flying, they’ll generally de-aggro after a while. 2.) By flying over an opposite-faction city. You generally get a debuff counting down, telling you that you’ve been spotted by the city’s guards–just make sure to fly away from the city ASAP, and you should be out of range before you get dismounted. 3.) By flying over anti-aircraft guns. These are generally located only at Burning Legion camps. Northrend is, fortunately, much more forgiving this way–there are no opposite-faction guards that will shoot you out of the air, for example. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Over in Shattrath, I chose the guys whose names begin with A over the Scryers to ally myself with. Yay, Aldor! That’s a good choice for a Prot Warrior. Of course, these days you probably won’t get very far in before you’re moving on to Northrend. > [@](#): > > That’s kind of a weird one, fighting over which group gets to be A’dal’s fighting force Yeah, right? Wait until you get to your upper 70s and can start the Argent Tournament: fighting to “train” and decide who gets to go fight Arthas. Seriously, could they have thought of a stupider idea? Who cares if we’re too weak to take him on–cannon fodder! Not to mention the sheer ridiculousness of the Faction Champions fight in ToC10 and 25. Um, if the Horde and the Alliance have all these guys with millions of HP, why don’t we just send THEM against Arthas, instead of us poor squishies who maybe run to about 60k HP with our tanks? > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Also when I go over to Zangamarsh, my gryph seems to lose altitude and I keep having to hit the space bar to keep her from landing. Should that be happening? Does she get tired or something? It’s just the angle you have her pointed. Different zones are at different elevations, so when going from one to the other, you may want to move higher or lower. Hold down your left mouse button and move your camera around until you have it pointed in the direction you want to go, then hold down both mouse buttons (to get you traveling that way) and hit your Autorun key. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Also I’m still not sure about my First Aid. I’ve got all kinds of heavy wool bandages (86) in my bags, but I’m still at 175/225 and the heavy wool bandage section is greened out but it isn’t letting me create any. Silks - 16… but not green… 1.) You want to create the “hardest” recipe you can. Orange recipes will always give you a point. Yellow recipes will usually give you a point. Green recipes will rarely give you a point. And gray recipes will never give you a point. As your skill level gets higher, a recipe will usually start out orange when you learn it, then turn yellow, then green, then gray. This is to encourage you to keep making new, harder items (with more expensive ingredients), rather than just making a lot of the cheapest or easiest stuff. Right now, you probably do want to be making Silk Bandages, since those are harder to make than Heavy Wool. 2.) The profession interface will tell you how many of an item you can make, based on the raw materials you have in your bags right at that moment. So, if it says you can’t make any Heavy Wool bandages, it’s because you don’t have enough of the required materials. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > and I decided to tame myself a turtle pet while I was at it - I named him Atuin Now, if you could just find four people with Draenei mounts and a way to get them up in the air over the turtle… > [@Mekhazzio](#): > > Fortunately, most of the totem buffs can now be applied in a long-lasting, more mobile form by other classes now, so in a sufficiently well organized group there’s little reason to use them anyway. This is absolutely not the case in raid content. Maybe not for trash, but totems should absolutely be dropped on boss fights. For 5-mans, too, totems should be going down for bosses, if not for trash. > [@mlees](#): > > Totems now have a racial flavor? Draenei stayed the same, and Tauren still have what used to be the default Horde ones. But Orcs and Trolls now each have their own. They’re nifty. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8383 "2010-01-14T20:53:42Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Draenei stayed the same, and Tauren still have what used to be the default Horde ones. But Orcs and Trolls now each have their own. They’re nifty. Yeah, Orc totems look like little axes stuck in the ground, and Troll totems look like troll-style stylized masks. My husband plays a troll shaman as his main, and he’s still thrilled about the switchover. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8384 "2010-01-14T20:55:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > The ICC fights are fun, for the most part–I can’t believe what a cakewalk the Gunship Battle was. (I got to be the tank who popped over and tanked Saurfang. Wheee jetpacks! And motherfuckin’ Saurfang! That’s right, mister, I took your Cleave and lived to tell about it!) Suarfang must not have felt like _really_ cleaving you or you wouldn’t have! Probably too grief-stricken about his son. Or, to quote said son: “Hahahaha - dwarves.” [QUOTE=SFG] The only fight that’s giving us trouble on 25 is Putricide. Holy shit, that fight is crazy. On our 10th and final attempt for this lockout, we had him down to like 1.7 million–then some unfortunate tank deaths healed him up and pushed him into his hard enrage. IIRC, we were running at least 30 seconds ahead of the timer up until then, so if we can just work on smoothing out the damage spikes that go with the tank swapping in Ph3, we should have it, no problem. [/QUOTE] Doing a lot better than us - Festergut is proving a hard and fast roadblock. We can pretty consistently get to the enrage with everybody alive, but the DPS just isn’t there - and not particularly close either (maybe 20k overall below where we need to be). I’m not sure if it’s gear, or player skill, or what - but we’ll keep banging our heads against that wall till we get there I’m sure. [QUOTE=SFG] Specifically, Alexstrasza, the big red dragon. [/QUOTE] Well, I was _trying_ not to spoil it! 😛 [QUOTE=SFG] Seriously, could they have thought of a stupider idea? Who cares if we’re too weak to take him on–cannon fodder! Not to mention the sheer ridiculousness of the Faction Champions fight in ToC10 and 25. Um, if the Horde and the Alliance have all these guys with millions of HP, why don’t we just send THEM against Arthas, instead of us poor squishies who maybe run to about 60k HP with our tanks? [/QUOTE] Yeah… I always feel bad killing those guys, it’s quite obvious they are better geared than I am and ganging up on them seems to be against the whole point of defeating the Lich King… ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8385 "2010-01-14T20:56:50Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > ummmmm… 2 t’s one b in abattoir, sorry! Hahaha, only you’d post to correct that. 😃 Is it weird that I really love the word abattoir? It always makes me think of that Monty Python sketch. 😃 > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Thanks, **FH** , but I left Cairne at 2:30 this morning kinda frustrated, because I couldn’t get my sword to engrave. Hi Quasi, What part of the quest are you on? **If it’s the first time he’s asked you to engrave the sword:** 1.) Go up to a Runeforge (the big skull-face forges around the same room as Razuvious, the quest giver). 2.) Right-click the sword in your bags. **If it’s the second time:** 1.) Go stand in front of a Runeforge again. 2.) Open your skill book (“P” on your keyboard). 3.) Look in the first tab (with the boot icon) for something called Runeforging. 4.) Click that Runeforging button. (If you want, you can drag it to an action bar to save for later, then click that new action bar button.) This will open up your Runeforging skill tab, which looks a lot like a Profession window. 5.) Open your character window, so you can see your equipment (“C” on your keyboard.) 6.) Click on each “recipe” to read its description. When you find the one you like the best, click the “Engrave” button. This will give your pointer a blue glow. Use your glowing pointer to click on the weapon you want to give this rune to. (Which should be the sword your character currently has equipped.) 7.) Voila, you have a Runeforged weapon! Any time you get a new weapon, or any time you want to give your weapon a new Rune (you’ll learn different ones as you level up), you’ll want to repeat this process. Just remember, you can only do it while standing in front of a Runeforge. ETA: > [@Jas09](#): > > Well, I was _trying_ not to spoil it! :smack: I read it as, “You can watch it again by talking to any of the NPCs that you see there.” ---
**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8386 "2010-01-14T21:29:00Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > This is absolutely not the case in raid content. Maybe not for trash, but totems should absolutely be dropped on boss fights. For 5-mans, too, totems should be going down for bosses, if not for trash. There is one and only one totem that isn’t done as well or better by other classes, and that’s Wrath of Air, the spell haste one. In an ideal raid composition all you’d ever see totem-wise is that, healing streams, Searing/etc DPS totems, and possibly a Strength of Earth if you’ve got an enhancement shaman and it’s a static fight. Even in 5-mans where you don’t have the buff duplication issue, the return on mana and time becomes questionable, especially with the pace that most instance fights get blown through these days. It takes a non-negligible amount of combat time before the global cooldown spent on, say, flametongue totem winds up adding more damage than simply throwing a lightning bolt instead. You need like a minute and a half in one spot before buff totems really start to be worth it. It’s a clunky system in an ever-increasingly fluid game. The only advantage to it is that it lets you poorly cover a relatively wide spread of potential buffs to fill in gaps in raid comp because, to be fair, few groups have the luxury of min-maxing what they take. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8387 "2010-01-14T22:05:32Z")
All I can tell you is, in the endgame (top or near top of server) raiding guilds I’ve been in, if a Shaman didn’t drop their totems, they’d get their ass reamed. There’s cross-class duplication, sure, but using a Shaman totem for, say, frost resistance means that the Pally who’d have that aura up can do a Pally-exclusive aura instead. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8388 "2010-01-14T22:26:55Z")
**SFG** Lost me at #6. I opened the character window, but don’t know what you mean by recipe? Also there’s another window with orange highlights on “cinderglacier” and below that, “razorice”. So I left cinderglacier the way it is and clicked “engrave” (standing in front of the forge - DIRECTLY in front - can’t get any closer), but nothing happens. I look at the engraving quest, and there’s no “complete”. Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8389 "2010-01-14T22:33:26Z")
Screenshot: [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/QModemChar.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/QModemChar.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8390 "2010-01-14T22:33:26Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **SFG** Lost me at #6. I opened the character window, but don’t know what you mean by recipe? > > Also there’s another window with orange highlights on “cinderglacier” and below that, “razorice”. Those “Cinderglacier” and “Razorice” are your “recipes.” So you’re looking in the right place! > [@](#): > > So I left cinderglacier the way it is and clicked “engrave” (standing in front of the forge - DIRECTLY in front - can’t get any closer), but nothing happens. You have to click the Engrave button, \*THEN \***click the item you want to engrave (your sword)**. Otherwise the game doesn’t know what you want to put the Rune on. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8391 "2010-01-14T22:35:40Z")
**SFG** : Okay! Got it! I’d been clicking on the sword on Quasi’s BACK, not the one in the character window! :smack::smack::smack:🙂 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8392 "2010-01-14T22:44:21Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I was playing my Orc Rogue, and got the fishing daily where you have to go to Wintersgrasp to catch the quest fish. I took the FP to the horde camp on the west edge of the zone, and saw that there were three other hordies fishin’. I unlimber the bone fishing rod, and settle down. > > After about 5 minutes, a Dwarf Pally swoops in, and three shots me and another guy. I get rezzed by the spirit Taunka, and see everyone scurrying like ants. The Pally hops back onto his red drake, and flies off. > > Slowly, we hordies all come back to our fishing hole, and drop our lines back into the water. A couple casts pass. Then the guy to my left /says “I hate this fuckin quest.” Remember that the gankers know it’s Terrorfish day and they know that there will be a bunch of sitting ducks at the fishing pond closest to the flight masters. I often fish under a bridge somewhere in the zone, and at the first sign of trouble, pop ice block then click the “Leave Wintergrasp” button on my minimap (yeah, I’m a chicken, what of it?) Another alternative that’s especially nice on PvE servers: At the southern part of WG, there is a waterfall that dumps onto the border between Borean Tundra and Dragonblight. On the East side of the top of this waterfall, an air elemental patrols. With careful placement, right around where that mob is, you can reach the water in WG to fish for your daily (and the WG fish that make up Fish Feast) \* but still remain in Dragonblight.\* This will leave you unflagged for PvP and you can fish without fear, only stopping every couple of minutes to quickly dispatch the mob when it respawns. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8393 "2010-01-14T22:57:05Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **SFG** : Okay! Got it! I’d been clicking on the sword on Quasi’s BACK, not the one in the character window! Woot! TBQH, I probably could have phrased that less ambiguously. 😃 Glad you’ve got it! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8394 "2010-01-14T22:58:54Z")
I deleted the orc and made QModem a blood-elf. Nothing against the Horde Orcs, just didn’t like my looks, is all. Got the sword, got it emblazoned and now the “hunger” is upon me! 😉 Q ---
**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8395 "2010-01-14T23:37:19Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > [Woot! They added a character view to the Armory!](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&n=Yeticalayla) Yeah, but I don’t think I like the “Recent Activity” part: Did some fishing. Jan 12, 2010 Logged in for 2 hours but didn’t do anything useful. Jan 11, 2010 Learned a recipe. What a wild man you are. Jan 8, 2010 Earned achievement [Exchanged O2 for CO2]. Joy. Jan 2, 2010 I think I need to DO more to spice up that section. Maybe I will try this “raiding” thing you guys talk about. -Lar of Cairne ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8396 "2010-01-14T23:49:50Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Um, if the Horde and the Alliance have all these guys with millions of HP, why don’t we just send THEM against Arthas, instead of us poor squishies who maybe run to about 60k HP with our tanks? I’ve often thought the same thing about a lot of the Old World questgivers. Um, you’re five levels higher than I am, and you’re “elite” to boot. Why do you need _me_ to kill this monster for you? > [@aktep](#): > > Remember that the gankers know it’s Terrorfish day and they know that there will be a bunch of sitting ducks at the fishing pond closest to the flight masters. I often fish under a bridge somewhere in the zone, and at the first sign of trouble, pop ice block then click the “Leave Wintergrasp” button on my minimap (yeah, I’m a chicken, what of it?) > > Another alternative that’s especially nice on PvE servers: At the southern part of WG, there is a waterfall that dumps onto the border between Borean Tundra and Dragonblight. On the East side of the top of this waterfall, an air elemental patrols. With careful placement, right around where that mob is, you can reach the water in WG to fish for your daily (and the WG fish that make up Fish Feast) \* but still remain in Dragonblight.\* This will leave you unflagged for PvP and you can fish without fear, only stopping every couple of minutes to quickly dispatch the mob when it respawns. I always fly up to the waterfall from Star’s Rest (as an Alliance toon) and fish in the water above it. I’ve never been attacked while fishing there. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8397 "2010-01-15T02:52:57Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I deleted the orc and made QModem a blood-elf. > > Nothing against the Horde Orcs, just didn’t like my looks, is all. > > Got the sword, got it emblazoned and now the “hunger” is upon me! 😉 > > Q And now, apparently, he’s a Tauren! Orc to Blood Elf to Tauren…taking a tour of the Horde? 😃 Have fun with your DK–they’re so OP that leveling with them is a breeze. I’ve got 2 at level 80 now and I love them both. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8398 "2010-01-15T15:36:10Z")
… You may now consider us as being officially **BAD**! [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/mirrendrinkinghat.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/mirrendrinkinghat.jpg) Quasi/ **Wolkie** ( **Silka** wouldn’t have nothin’ to do with being in this picture!;)) ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8399 "2010-01-15T15:52:33Z")
Yesterday I decided to get some emblems for my druid tank, who is desperately low in gear what with the new expansion out and with us moving into the beginnings of ICC10. (Not to mention the dodge debuff in ICC raids meaning you really need to be well-geared as a tank if you’re a druid, since dodge is the only avoidance option they have - **not that I’m bitter or anything, oh no!** :mad: ) However, I decided I wanted more boomkin practice, so I queued up for the Random Dungeon Finder as DPS. My gear is not as good for my boomkin form as it is as my tank, so I expected to be with lower-end groups. Instead, most of the time, I got lumped in with groups where typically 3 or 4 members have equal or much better gear to my top character (can heal ICC10), and then I and maybe one other person have lower-end gear, like Naxx-acceptable. From what I was reading on WoW Insider, the Dungeon Finder seems like it does this almost intentionally, or rather perhaps that it doesn’t care about carefully matching but instead averages you out. First group? Heroic Oculus. It’s pretty uneventful, and fortunately the tank knows the place well. Tank and healer are from the same guild, and the tank is obviously rolling his eyes in mock disgust when he doesn’t get the blue drake but the healer does. Then I open my bag - blue drake! :o Since this is on my druid I’m not collecting flying mounts - 'cause birdie form is awesome - but I’m not going to turn it down, and I right-click it into my mount collection. (Later that same day, I did H Oculus again, and **got another drake**. My husband went from “yay, congrats!” on the first drake to "… you know, I am **never** going to get that drake, and you got two?! :smack: ") Later in the series of runs, I got into Heroic UPinnacle. The tank, healer, and one DPS are all very well-geared, and the mage and I are comparative scrubs. Still perfectly respectable for running Naxx, that kind of thing, but not uber. At the start of the run, the DPS warrior says, “Can we make this quick? I have a raid in 15 minutes.” Gah. So we zoom along, and two rooms before the final boss, he says that the mage and I need to put out more DPS, cause the tank is out-dps’ing us, and posts the Recount results. I pipe up that he and the tank badly outgear us, it’s not our fault that we all got put in the same group, and that the Dungeon Finder seems to do this to people a lot. Then the mage said something like, “And it’s not like I don’t bring lower-level people through on my healer all the time,” to which I said I did that as well. The DPS warrior says “Oh”, and we finish without incident. Wow, H-UP is “srs bznz.” 😛 I can see bitching at people who AFK or something, but I was following the Elitist Jerks boomkin spec/rotation/gear recommendations and was constantly casting something as mana allowed. (Due to gear, she’s still kind of bleh on mana regen, but I’m really working on that.) Oh well, I got her two pieces of T9 tank gear, a 245 level ring, and leather tank bracers off Tyrannus in Heroic PoS. Plus a nice caster staff for the boomkin form! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8400 "2010-01-15T15:58:59Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > … You may now consider us as being officially **BAD**! > > [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/mirrendrinkinghat.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/mirrendrinkinghat.jpg) > > Quasi/ **Wolkie** > > ( **Silka** wouldn’t have nothin’ to do with being in this picture!;)) Oh yes, I’d almost repressed memories of how bright and colorful that Outland gear can be. Stylin’ hat! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=419) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=421)