# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 431
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8601 "2010-01-22T22:25:27Z")
Oh yeah forgot to add that I sent them an “appeal” e-mail telling them that WoW is my one pleasure I allow myself with the dementia, but in the return confirmation they wrote that it may take them several days to take action. **FUUUUUUUCKKKKK!** ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8602 "2010-01-22T22:26:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Then you have to ask the question about Tedrassil: how did this gigantic tree, which was grown just a handful of years ago, apparently, end up with deep, water-carved, _stone_ caves?" :rolleyes: That’s one thing I’ve always wondered. There are areas where the buildings are SO dilapidated (like Deathknell and Brill) that you have to wonder why so many towns that were perfectly normal until 4 or 5 years ago in-game have deteriorated so quickly. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Blizz notified me today that they have disabled my account due to the fact that last May I put a WoW charge on my phone bill. > > Since I recently went bankrupt, AT&T somehow recinded that charge and now WoW won’t accept ANYTHING from me but a mailed-in money order and I cannot do that till next week, so I’m gonna have to go w/o WoW till then, plus give them time to GET the damn thing which I am gonna have to send certified mail. > > Sucks to be me, I guess, and **jayjay’s** in good company! :mad::):smack: > > See y’all on the “other side”! > > Quasi Awww, **Quasi** …I know exactly how you feel! ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8603 "2010-01-22T22:30:12Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Blizz notified me today that they have disabled my account due to the fact that last May I put a WoW charge on my phone bill. > > Since I recently went bankrupt, AT&T somehow recinded that charge and now WoW won’t accept ANYTHING from me but a mailed-in money order and I cannot do that till next week, so I’m gonna have to go w/o WoW till then, plus give them time to GET the damn thing which I am gonna have to send certified mail. > > Sucks to be me, I guess, and **jayjay’s** in good company! :mad::):smack: > > See y’all on the “other side”! > > Quasi **Quasi,** Can’t you just buy a WoW prepaid time card? You can get them at game stores (and maybe other places too, not sure). They’re good for 30 or 60 days of prepaid playtime, and since they’re prepaid, I can’t imagine why Blizzard wouldn’t accept one as payment. Just a thought to try. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8604 "2010-01-22T22:38:06Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > **Quasi,** > > Can’t you just buy a WoW prepaid time card? You can get them at game stores (and maybe other places too, not sure). They’re good for 30 or 60 days of prepaid playtime, and since they’re prepaid, I can’t imagine why Blizzard wouldn’t accept one as payment. > > Just a thought to try. We’re working on something now, **winterhawk** , but I don’t think they’ll accept the pre-paid since I owe more than a pre-paid would, um, _pay_ for. Besides, since they suspended that account, I’d probably have to create a whole new character on a different server. Stay tuned, I ain’t givin’ up yet and I haven’t gotten the “shakes” yet either! ;)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8605 "2010-01-22T22:41:49Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > The question I found myself asking was, “In the thousands of years the night elves occupied these lands, couldn’t they have done _something_ to make it easier to get around?” I always fanwanked it as, “When you’re immortal, what’s an extra five minutes on the way to the store?” 😃 > [@](#): > > Then you have to ask the question about Tedrassil: how did this gigantic tree, which was grown just a handful of years ago, apparently, end up with deep, water-carved, _stone_ caves?" Don’t get me started. The whole place bugs the hell out of me. (I mean, look at Darnassus! It’s all covered in ivy and whatnot!) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Since I recently went bankrupt, AT&T somehow recinded that charge and now WoW won’t accept ANYTHING from me but a mailed-in money order Seconding someone else’s suggestion of a prepaid time card, although you’d probably want to check with the billing department to make sure they’d accept it. I could even email you a code tonight, if you want. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8606 "2010-01-22T22:49:51Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > That’s one thing I’ve always wondered. There are areas where the buildings are SO dilapidated (like Deathknell and Brill) that you have to wonder why so many towns that were perfectly normal until 4 or 5 years ago in-game have deteriorated so quickly. I think that was the doing of the Scourge - in WarCraft III, the Scourge spread a sort of blight everywhere they went that killed the surrounding flora, rendered the land infertile, and caused deterioration in organic (wood, in this case) materials. However, I’ve seen no definite indication in WoW that the Forsaken spread this same blight, so I wonder why “new” construction, like the zeppelin tower outside UC, shows the same decrepitude as the buildings in Brill. I suppose the answer is that they built it with materials from pre-existing lumber supplies rather than cutting fresh lumber, though I have to wonder why. Clearly the Forsaken themselves don’t mind living in squalor, but you’d think the goblins running the zeps would have demanded and/or financed something sturdier. Like, say, converting one of the existing stone towers of Lordaeron into a zep tower. Teldrassil shouldn’t have stone at all in the middle of it. It’s a freakin’ tree! I mean, this is acknowledged in the fact there are no mining nodes on Teldrassil. Where did the night elves quarry the stone to build Darnassus? Did they import it? If so, _how did they get it all up there?_ Deep stone caves and big rocks are completely out of place on Teldrassil. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8607 "2010-01-22T23:07:01Z")
Seconding someone else’s suggestion of a prepaid time card, although you’d probably want to check with the billing department to make sure they’d accept it. I could even email you a code tonight, if you want. [/QUOTE] Sweetie, I can’t even GET THROUGH to billing. They’re not accepting calls due “to a high call volume” and are telling me to call back at another time. MY SIL is letting me use her credit card, but that’s no use if they won’t answer the damn phone, right? Thanks, though! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8608 "2010-01-22T23:11:18Z")
Have you tried punching one of the motherfuckers? I hear that’s good for getting people to take your money. Punchin’ 'em, I mean. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8609 "2010-01-22T23:30:45Z")
I just did the only thing I knew to do: sent my SIL’s credit card info to Blizz in an e-mail. Hopefully they’ll get it before 8 Pacific time and put it through. That will be 9:29 ET (my time) **SHITSHITSHITSHITSHIT!!!** :mad::mad::mad: Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8610 "2010-01-22T23:53:46Z")
… I buy a pre-paid card, right? 1. Blizz has locked my Battle-Net account, which means I cannot log into it on my Battlenet because it’s locked. They have me violating their policy and that e-mail was very sternly worded. so… 1. What do I do? I already have the whole thing downloaded to this (my gaming computer). Do I now have to download the game all over again, create a new account (again on _this_ computer), and then what? i have two accounts, two WoW games downloaded? Just doesn’t sound workable, y’all. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8611 "2010-01-23T02:30:12Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 1.) Is this for soloing, or are you going to be doing a lot of instances? > 2.) How long do you think you’ll have this shield? > > The shield spike will help with AOE threat and damage, as will the Tough Shield enchant. I’d ignore the Shield Block one; BV is generally pretty useless, unless you’re specifically trying to build an unhittable set. (Block is somewhat more useful for Paladins than for Warriors, though, at least for trash.) Major Stamina is a good all-around enchant: having more HP is never a bad thing for a tank, even pre-80. > > So, here’s how I’d decide: > 1.) If I die too much, or if I get too close to death too often, I’d get the +18 Stam. > 2.) If I have a lot of problems with mobs peeling off me in an instance, or if I want them to die faster, I’d get the Shield Spike or the +36 BV. > 3.) If I’m fighting a lot of things that do a small amount of damage, I’d get the +36 BV. (Mouseover your current Block stats on your character sheet and see how much damage your Block stops–if it’s a number that’s not too far below your general incoming damage, that’s when it’s worthwhile to pick up some Block.) > > Honestly, you should probably just go with the Stam. It will always help, versus the other chants, which require you to actually block something for them to take effect. > > Block Rating: Chance to block > Block Value: How much you block when you do block Thanks! This is my paladin that I’ve been tanking the BDL weekly dungeon runs yet; he exclusively tanks dungeons (no soloing/questing to speak of since level 20). The spikes are tempting for the threat aspect, but I might go with Stam just to make things easier on my healer. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8612 "2010-01-24T20:51:42Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I just did the only thing I knew to do: sent my SIL’s credit card info to Blizz in an e-mail. **Quasi** , never never NEVER send credit card info through e-mail! It’s not secure. Last night (Saturday) I took a break from leveling alts (I normally only play my main in the mornings and early afternoon, because the lag in Icecrown and Dalaran increases horribly in the late afternoons and evenings when all the kiddies are home from school) and decided to run my main around the Old World to make a little more progress toward [Loremaster of Eastern Kingdoms](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1676). I had been sitting at 23 quests shy of the achievement for some time. And what do you know, [I got it](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/loremaster_ek.jpg) 🙂 I had dropped in to Searing Gorge to scout for questgivers. Despite having checked there before, I thought I’d check again. Maybe I’d missed something. I discovered a questgiver at Thorium Point who sent me into the Slag Pit to steal the Dark Iron’s pillows and did the quest, only to discover it didn’t count for whatever reason. Then I found the lady who gives a tailors-only quest plus a followup, and found those didn’t count either. And then I wandered by that outhouse with the dwarf trapped inside and spotted the exclamation point. I’d swear I’d already done that one, but as it turned out I’d only done the quest that starts with finding the Grimesilt Outhouse Key and ends with letting the dwarf out. So this dwarf gave me the quest to kill 8 Dark Iron Geologists and to bring him 15 pieces of Silk Cloth (guess what the cloth was for 😃 ). Since I wasn’t carrying any silk and the Dark Irons were only dropping mageweave, I headed through the tunnel to Loch Modan to get to the mailbox so I could have my bank alt mail me the silk. So on my way to Thelsamar I passed the dwarf watch tower beside the road and … oh look, more exclamation points. Once again, I thought I’d already done those quests. I suppose that’s one problem with having as many alts as I have: it starts getting hard to remember _which_ toons have done certain quests. So I got to do the entire chain of trogg-killing quests there, which I think was 4 or 5 quests total. Then I continued on to Thelsamar, had my bank alt mail the silk, then returned to Searing Gorge to finish up the outhouse quest. That led to another quest to locate certain objects and deliver them to Gadgetzan. Then I wondered, “Did this toon ever do that quest with the explosives over at the dam?” I ran up to the dam, and doggonit, I _hadn’t_ done that one. So that started a chain of several more quests. I traveled to Ironforge and ran around a bit looking for more quests, and discovered one in the Explorer’s Hall - a followup to the Uldaman chain (with the discs) that I’d done a long time ago. The followup sent me to Uldum in Tanaris, so that was convenient since I was already going to Gadgetzan, and turned out to be a chain of 3-4 quests. And finally I found a dwarf in the Military Ward who needed me to deliver a crate of crash helmets to the gnomes at the racetrack in Shimmering Flats. Having done all those dwarf quests, now I was sitting at 698/700. I wandered into the Badlands where I found a quest that starts with an obscure piece of paper lying on the ground near that first small dig site you encounter just past Uldaman. I turned in that quest to get to 699. And then I stumbled across the goblin who hands out the quest to learn the Buzzard Bites recipe. I already knew the recipe so I guess I thought I’d already done the quest. Guess not! Killed a few buzzards, handed in the quest, and Bob’s your uncle, I’m Loremaster of Eastern Kingdoms 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8613 "2010-01-24T21:36:37Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > **Quasi** , never never NEVER send credit card info through e-mail! It’s not secure. I _know_, man! But they won’t ANSWER their fucking PHONE!!! And plus, I wanted to play Wolkie (Lvl 64) so bad and get out of HP this weekend. Sucks to be me, ah reckon!🙂 Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8614 "2010-01-25T16:05:58Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. Blizz has locked my Battle-Net account, which means I cannot log into it on my Battlenet because it’s locked. I’ve never had a locked account before, so I’m not sure just how locked “locked” is. It could be that you can sign on to the account management portions of the website, but not sign on to the game. > [@](#): > > I already have the whole thing downloaded to this (my gaming computer). Do I now have to download the game all over again, create a new account (again on _this_ computer), and then what? Regardless of what happens with your original account, you won’t have to download a new version of the game. Accounts are unique; game copies aren’t. And game copies and accounts aren’t tied in any way. Anyone can use \*your \*copy of the game (on your computer) to play with \*their \*account, and you could use \*your \*account (assuming it’s unlocked) to play on the computer of \*anyone \*who has WoW installed with the right expansions. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > And what do you know, [I got it](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/loremaster_ek.jpg) Woo! Well done, sir. Gonna go for the uber-Loremaster now? You get a reaaaally hideous tabard! 😃 > [@](#): > > I suppose that’s one problem with having as many alts as I have: it starts getting hard to remember _which_ toons have done certain quests. With the last patch, Blizzard added in a way for your client to query the server to see which quests you’re listed as having completed. Various addons can now tell you what you have and haven’t done. Personally, I use QuestHelper already, and it now has added functionality to mark uncompleted quests on my map. I just go to the zone map, right-click the QuestHelper button (which appears in the upper right corner), and select the option to display uncompleted quests (I think it’s right at the top of the menu). Same process again to hide them. The information the server sends is minimal, so for QH, what you get is a purple dot on your zone map for every unfinished quest, which on mouseover gives the quest name and quest number. At Wowhead, e.g., all URLs for quests are in the format [http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=####](http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=####) where #### is the quest number (numerals only, no preceding #). You can take the information from the purple dot, plug it into that URL, and see exactly what the quest is. Sometimes it may be something that you’ve already done, but doesn’t show as completed for weird game mechanics reasons. Sometimes it might be a quest that isn’t available to your class or race. But you’ll always be able to see exactly what quests you haven’t done yet, and get a general idea of what part of the zone they’re in. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8615 "2010-01-25T16:29:14Z")
My guild tried and **failed** on Lord Marrowgar in ICC 10 last night. We’ve done him before, though never painlessly, and we were missing some good people. Gripes: - People not using flasks/elixirs. I use the BigBrother addon to spit a report to the raid about who isn’t using them. The proportion is consistently frighteningly high. Even the raid leader/main tank wasn’t using anything last night. We have plenty of guild alchemists, even a flask specialist or two, who would make them if you gave/paid for mats. (We don’t have a guild fund for them.) - People not bringing food for buffs. BigBrother also reports this, and if the few people who consistently bring Fish Feasts are out, then a whole lot of people have no food buff on, either. My husband posted a strat to our guild website for people to look over. Frankly, I just hate him. I went as a priest (even though I would have rather not raided) because they needed another healer. I can never seem to see where it is I need to be standing because it’s hard for me to tell zoomed-in where the boss is pointing, but I’m zoomed in because I’m trying to keep video lag down from that stupid glacier and the spell effects. Then Bone Storm pops up and it’s an insane run-around with him slicing people and the ice all over the floor and ugh, and then the storm ends and I’m left trying to find a path through the ice back to my tank while he gets cut to bits fast even though he’s got over 40k health. Hate hate hate. I kick myself for not being a Team Player and signing up for raids, because raids always stress me the hell out and I sleep like crap after. Then I end up going anyway, and half the time I run through my Fish Feasts and hand out a flask or two (in addition to my own use) - we do have a few other people, my husband included, who do this as well to help the raid - and then people seem like they can’t be bothered to do anything to prep themselves. Listen folks, just because we’re an extremely casual raiding guild, that doesn’t mean that you just mosey in and whatever is handed to you is all that you need. ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8616 "2010-01-25T16:48:26Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I _know_, man! But they won’t ANSWER their fucking PHONE!!! > > And plus, I wanted to play Wolkie (Lvl 64) so bad and get out of HP this weekend. > > Sucks to be me, ah reckon!🙂 > > Thanks > > Quasi Can you start a new account under their free trials? It won’t solve the bigger problem, but you’ll still get to log in a play a low-level character. This way you can try out a new class/race and maybe explorer some different starting zones that you have never been too. It might help pass the time until they figure things out with your main account. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > My guild tried and **failed** on Lord Marrowgar in ICC 10 last night. We’ve done him before, though never painlessly, and we were missing some good people. It’s not your fault Ferret… It’s not your fault Ferrett… Ferret, it’s not your fault… _hugs_ Last time I ran him was last week and the raid leader had everyone stand right on his butt. He still cast the fire trails, but they didn’t hit us. The tanks still had to dodge it slightly, but it made everything a lot easier. Dps never had to leave the boss and spikes were in easy range to be taken down. Bone storm is always a little…chaotic. It doesn’t to a massive amount of damage, but it does hurt if you don’t try to move. The fire is always the bigger problem, that hurts! I just try to stay near my healing assignment and dodge the fire. It was by far the easiest downing of him I’d seen for a pug group. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8617 "2010-01-25T17:00:43Z")
> [@Jbone](#): > > It’s not your fault Ferret… > It’s not your fault Ferrett… > Ferret, it’s not your fault… > _hugs_ _sobs_ I’m trying… to heal people… and build a tank… and it’s never enough… and people just wanna show up and pew pew and not listen… and… WAAAAAAHHHHH! 😃 It’s not that bad, but it feels like it. > [@](#): > > Last time I ran him was last week and the raid leader had everyone stand right on his butt. He still cast the fire trails, but they didn’t hit us. The tanks still had to dodge it slightly, but it made everything a lot easier. Dps never had to leave the boss and spikes were in easy range to be taken down. > Bone storm is always a little…chaotic. It doesn’t to a massive amount of damage, but it does hurt if you don’t try to move. The fire is always the bigger problem, that hurts! I just try to stay near my healing assignment and dodge the fire. > It was by far the easiest downing of him I’d seen for a pug group. We did do the “stand on the butt” tactic, though according to my husband, one strat he found says you should stand further back. (Looking it over, I think he misread it.) I think one of our problems is that you need to run far, far away ASAP during Bone Storm, and we’d just been concentrating on dodging him if he comes at you, and dodging the fire. Is there some kind of addon that lets you mark stuff such that only you see it? I’d like a big-ass arrow pointing down at my tank assignment. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8618 "2010-01-25T17:02:27Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > - People not using flasks/elixirs. I use the BigBrother addon to spit a report to the raid about who isn’t using them. The proportion is consistently frighteningly high. Even the raid leader/main tank wasn’t using anything last night. We have plenty of guild alchemists, even a flask specialist or two, who would make them if you gave/paid for mats. (We don’t have a guild fund for them.) > > - People not bringing food for buffs. BigBrother also reports this, and if the few people who consistently bring Fish Feasts are out, then a whole lot of people have no food buff on, either. A big gripe of mine too. It doesn’t take much effort to farm up some mats for flasks, or do some dailies and buy the mats or flasks. Same with farming mats for food buffs. I always make sure I have enough flasks and personal food, drink and buff food for the night’s raid. It bugs the hell out of me when other people don’t come prepared. What people often fail to realize, I guess, is that percentage wise, flasks and food buffs may not make -that- much difference, but that little bit of difference is often the difference between winning and losing. Healing must be a real pain on that fight. That’s why I’m glad I’m a DPS priest. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8619 "2010-01-25T17:13:34Z")
FH, is your priest Holy or Disc? Can you link your spec? I’ve been raiding Holy but I’m not 100% sure my spec is optimal (Kene on Cairne if you want to look it up). ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/8620 "2010-01-25T17:18:32Z")
So after doing my daily frost marks chore, I switched to my level 29 pally and did a lot of instance tanking this weekend. Thoughts: 1 - if you have a minimally decent set of tank armor, a ret pally should have no difficulty whatsoever tanking in the late 20s and early 30s. For the first run, it had been so long since I’d run the character I didn’t remember where half my buttons were; all I could hit in good time were the taunt/damage ability and consecrate, and that was plenty; any further tactics were pure gravy. 2 - Low level tanks, much like level 80 tanks, need to wait approximately .5 seconds before finding a group in the dungeon finder. 3 - From levels 29 through 31, I tanked about 7 instances. All 7 were Scarlet Monastery: Graveyard. Once I hit 32 I actually got to go to the Library. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=430) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=432)