# World of Warcraft General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9021 "2010-02-05T20:30:44Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Play the game long enough, and I think just about anybody is. Let’s see… Not counting my bankers, mules, and farmers, I have:
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> **80 Night Elf Warrior  
> 80 Undead Mage**  
> _60-ish Blood Elf Death Knight_  
> 50-ish Night Elf Priest  
> **Mid-40s Troll Hunter**  
> 40-ish Human Warlock  
> _30-ish Draenei Priest  
> 30-ish Draenei Hunter  
> Mid-20s Night Elf Druid  
> 19 Blood Elf Mage (twink)  
> 19 Draenei Shaman (twink)  
> 16-ish Night Elf Rogue_  
> 13-ish Draenei Shaman  
> _13-ish Blood Elf Paladin_
> 
> In bold are the ones I currently play fairly regularly; in italics are the ones I almost never play anymore (at least for their intended purposes–the Belf Mage is currently my Horde-side AH mule for that server).

Oh, I want to play too!

**80 Blood Elf mage** (my main)  
**80 Blood Elf death knight** (my “almost-main”)  
80 Blood Elf death knight (not a repeat–he’s on a different server)  
76 Blood Elf priest (I really should get him to 80 someday)  
_70 Blood Elf rogue_ (I sense a trend here) (this was my original main–he used to be human)  
**67 Blood Elf paladin** (my current project and tank-in-training)  
70 Blood Elf hunter (he’s basically my herbing/alchemy toon now–with a flyer, he can hunt plants all the way up to Icecrown if I’m careful)  
_58 Blood Elf warlock_ (leveled from 28 - 58 in about 2 minutes via granted Refer a Friend levels–I have no idea how to play him, really)  
_55 Blood Elf rogue_  
_20 Night Elf hunter_ (where’d he come from?) 😛  
_16 Undead warrior_  
Assorted other sub-20 (mostly sub-15) random characters that I started and realized I didn’t like

Yeah, I like blood elves. A lot. 😛

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9022 "2010-02-05T20:32:08Z")

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> [@lizardling](#):
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> 1. 10 bars plus the assorted XP/rep/vehicle bars. And yes, you can put them where ever you want them to, and say “bar 1 showing is conditional on if I’m in/out of combat or in party/raid”, for example. Or “bar 5 only shows if I mouseover it.” I lurves this. You can also say “I want bar 1 to be 3 rows tall and 2 buttons deep” (six buttons) instead of the standard “1 row tall and 12 buttons long” (twelve buttons) if you want to be strict and make sure there’s no empty buttons showing.
> 
> Also, Bartender’s keybinding system is MUCH MUCH better than Blizz’s. Basically, you set up your bars the way you want them to, then hit the Bartender keybinding button to go into keybind mode. Hover your mouse over the button you want to kb, hit Esc to clear any old keybinds, then press the keybinding you want to use for that button. Hit OK to close the keybinding mode. You can have multiple keybinds to a single button this way.
> 
> The benefit is much more powerful keybind management and a cleaner UI with the key bits you want to see showing where and when you want to see them.
> 
> I heard choirs of angels when I got this figured out. \<3 It’s also very stable and I never have had to go back to default UI after a patch in the year plus I’ve been playing with Bartender. (A similar alternative though is Dominos, but I’ve never played with that one so I couldn’t tell you how leetsauce it is)

Ooh, I _must_ try this! It sounds great. I think I’ll load it up on my project paladin right now until I get used to it–changing my main raider’s interface without sufficient practice is probably not the wisest thing to do.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9023 "2010-02-05T20:37:31Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> What price would you suggest for a tigerseye jewel? It’s coloured as uncommon, but I can find no existing auctions to use as a reference.

My advice on those jewels, Tigerseye, Lesser Moonstone, Malachite ETC. is to hang onto to them. You may not need them now but one day, maybe 10-20 levels down the road, you might need one for a recipe and then when you go to the AH to buy one the jokers have them for sale at like 12 gold.

Now the 12 gold is not an absolute of course but I have personally seen Citrine for 20 gold+ when I needed one. Having a lvl 80 miner I said eff that and went mining until I got one but it would have been nice to already have had one on hand in the bank.

Also if you plan on being a jewelcrafter later on in the game you are going to need all those anyways.

But thats just me and my advice.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9024 "2010-02-05T20:39:15Z")

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Joining the trend:

**80 Tauren Death Knight** - current main, BDL  
_80 Tauren Warrior_ - my first character, abandoned because I’m too cheap to pay to transfer him to Cairne  
**66 Undead Priest**  
**38 Blood Elf Paladin**  
_31 Human Priest_ - current guildmaster of the BDL’s sister Alliance guild on Cairne, which never took off.  
_27 Troll Rogue_ - interesting story in that I joined a random guild with him, mostly ignored them, then at some point when I was out levelling I got promoted to Guildmaster by the previous GM, who was quitting the game or something. So I have two idle Guildmasters of idle guilds.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9025 "2010-02-05T20:54:40Z")

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Me, all on the same server (Sen’jin):  
80 Tauren Druid (main?)  
80 Troll Priest (more often my main, cause more people want to tank than heal)  
80 Undead Warlock (used to be my main, before my priest)  
80 Tauren Hunter  
80 Blood Elf Mage  
35 Orc Warrior (my auction house mule, also in a guild inhabited solely by a few alts of my husband and I)  
22 Blood Elf Rogue (also in the alt-guild)  
1 Dwarf Rogue - created during the Harvest festival for friends to shoot. Also reserving the name I have picked out for my future goblin shaman, “Hawaya.”

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**Author:** ![Foma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Foma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foma)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9026 "2010-02-05T20:59:16Z")

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Following the trend:

**80 Orc Warrior** Main.  
**80 Human Paladin** Main ally. Leveled with my wife (mage)  
74 Human Death Knight  
64 Blood Elf Hunter  
61 Human Death Knight  
49 Human Rogue  
43 Orc Warlock  
_41 Dwarf Hunter_ First character. I feel sad when I think of him sitting all alone on that PvP server  
38 Undead Rogue  
30 Orc Hunter  
30 Human Warrior  
28 Dwarf Paladin  
28 Night Elf Rogue  
**22 Gnome Mage** My most recent obsession.  
20 Gnome Warlock  
20 Blood Elf Paladin  
19 Night Elf Hunter  
19 Blood Elf Mage  
14 Draenei Shaman  
13 Troll Shaman  
9 Undead Warlock

huh. Seeing them together like this makes me realize that I seem to favor plate melee and get bored with casters. I wonder what a psychologist would say about that.

ETA: There are countless sub-20 toons that were deleted in the great purge of 2009.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9027 "2010-02-05T21:12:21Z")

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Wow, the long list of toons y’all have does point out what a nub I really am! 🙂

80 Tauren Hunter [Jagaya](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Jagaya)(Turalyon - Main)  
80 Undead Death Knight [Darland](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Darland)(Cairne)  
64 Tauren Druid [Halakaya](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Halakaya)(Cairne)

A few other lowbies just for trying out new things. And about 5 bank/AH alts spread over the two servers.

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9028 "2010-02-05T21:36:41Z")

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80 troll hunter (BM/MM) - main  
64 undead priest (holy) - major alt  
58 orc DK (frost) - bank alt  
57 belf pally (prot/ret)  
56 draenei shaman (enh) - major alt  
21 tauren druid (feral)  
15 draenei warrior

a few more lowbies running around on various servers

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9029 "2010-02-05T21:43:16Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> Ooh, I _must_ try this! It sounds great. I think I’ll load it up on my project paladin right now until I get used to it–changing my main raider’s interface without sufficient practice is probably not the wisest thing to do.
> 
> Thanks!

Other fun things to try:

1. Enable an empty bar.

2. Stick non-sensitive things like your mount macro on there and add keybinds

3. Tell the bar you want it to stay hidden all the time

4. Profit. Now you’ve a hidden hotkey and your screen isn’t cluttered with your mount du jour.

5. You can also reskin the bars with Button Facade and/or scale the buttons up/down. My pet bar is like a third the size of everything else because I only need it to make sure that specific abilities are on/off.

6. Add OmniCC if you want to see timers on your CDs in addition to the Blizz countdown animation.

Just to clarify the stability: post-patches, you might have to force-load out of date addons, but BT’s never broken outright.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9030 "2010-02-05T21:49:01Z")

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Oh, it’s come to this, has it?

80 \*\*Undead priest \*\*(Kene) - Cairne my main  
78 Orc rogue (Kenda) - Cairne  
62 **Blood Elf paladin** (Rillian) - Cairne  
60 Gnome Death Knight - I don’t remember the server  
50 \*\*Blood Elf warlock \*\*(Kenna) - Carine  
28? Human paladin - Alleria (this was my first toon)  
26 \*Troll hunter (Joreb) \* (Cairne) (cross-faction bank alt)  
17 Dwarf warrior - Alleria  
4 _Orc warrior (Durgo)_ - Cairne  
1 Human warlock - Cairne

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9031 "2010-02-05T22:27:32Z")

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Question guys, what spec of laptop would be required to run WoW?

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9032 "2010-02-05T22:36:43Z")

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> [@lizardling](#):
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> Sexy. I’m an addon whore myself so I know what you mean. I can identify most of those, but what’re you using for the castbar/dungeon cooldown? Also, the dashboard at the bottom.

The blue castbar just under me is AzCastBar. I have a feeling it’s quite an old addon, but it still works fine. It’s one of those addons that’s so simple, but it works so well and it’s right in my field of vision where it’s placed.

By dungeon cooldown, do you mean the Buffs/Debuff bars above my character name? Those are Elkano’s BuffBars. There’s a third one for Tench, but I don’t use it. That’s for displaying stuff like a fishing bobble buff thing, which isn’t really that useful to me.

The dashboard at the bottom is SLDataText. Again, I think this is quite an old addon and it doesn’t show up in my Curse Client, so it may have come from WoW Interface.

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**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9033 "2010-02-05T22:37:45Z")

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Ha! It’s funny to see all your alt lists. I’m a MAINiac. My toons are:

Mooma, lvl 80 resto druid, Eonar-EU.

Yep, that’s it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9034 "2010-02-05T22:57:00Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> Question guys, what spec of laptop would be required to run WoW?

If you crank the settings down to their minimum levels, you could probably run WoW on ENIAC. The recommended minimum hardware has increased slightly with each expansion, but not by much. An older computer won’t get great performance (especially anywhere with a combination of newer graphics, high population, and/or spell effects), but you should be able to play on even a fairly old computer (5-10 years), especially at lower levels and while soloing.

Pretty much anything new on the market right now should be able to more than handle the game.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9035 "2010-02-05T22:58:39Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> 60 Gnome Death Knight - I don’t remember the server

Come to think of it, my DK is a dwarf, not a gnome. I created her one night when both Cairne and Alleria were down, went through most of the starting quests and never went back.

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**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9036 "2010-02-05T23:14:28Z")

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Oh dear, I’m afraid to do this but here goes.(EU servers)

80 Night Elf Druid(Evelake)-Ravencrest First character I ever rolled.  
**80 Orc Warrior(Pertolepe)-Stormscale** My friends did a server and faction transfer but I don’t have the money to spend on that now, so this is a recent reroll, my new main I suppose.  
80 Dwarf Hunter(Herlews)-Tarren Mill Second character I ever got to 60.  
80 Dwarf Paladin(Emerentia)-Ravencrest Ended up being little more than an enchant bot.  
80 Human Warlock(Mesmic)-Ravencrest  
80 Draenei Shaman(Ishnu)-Ravencrest  
80 Troll Hunter(Vanilj)-Hellscream  
70 Gnome Mage(Norly)-Tarren Mill  
70 Gnome Warrior(Jorly)-Tarren Mill  
60 Human Rogue(Margawse)-Tarren Mill  
**47 Blood Elf Priest(Norly)-Stormscale** The alt I’m currently leveling.  
And then a whole bunch more I started but never got very far with.

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9037 "2010-02-05T23:24:47Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
>
> Question guys, what spec of laptop would be required to run WoW?

[Getting Started on your Free Trial](http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/technology.html) – this gives the whole rundown.

I’ve not tried it, but others have tried [running WoW on the MSI Wind U100](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FLQC1qZiCY)and could at least tour scenic Goldshire. That’s some underpowered specs right there and very likely everything cranked down with no addons. (Personally, I stick to old school games unlikely to make my Wind melt into a puddle of electricified goo on my lap what with it lacking an active cooling solution, but that could just be me. 😛 ).

OTOH, my new Dell Studio XPS 16 will run WoW with no problem at all. Other than the factory deciding that supersaturated hues were the way to go. :dubious: Thanks much, Dell. I didn’t need my eyes bleeding from the super red roofs in Org.

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**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9038 "2010-02-05T23:50:17Z")

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Anyone know if emblem drops are staying at triumph or if they’re moving to frost before Cataclysm?  
I’ve recently acquired a few primordial saronites, and since they’re gong for like 2.5k a piece I was thinking about selling them instead of making the BOE items.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9039 "2010-02-06T00:01:22Z")

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Well, after **Tom** (aka **Muzungu** ) gave me a boot enchant last night, I met up with **Runestar** who was fishing the fountain for coins, and I wondered aloud if I could trade any coins that I fished out of the fountain so he could get the credit towards the coin achievements. Also, I bitching about how I was down to one coin that I have been fishing for about 4 months now and think that the fountain was bugged because I would hit multiples of the same coins, even when I fished on different days…for instance, I would get 2 or 3 Aegwynn’s Silver Coins AND 2 or 3 Antonida’s Silver Coins while fishing over a 20-30 minute period while I needed only Alleria’s Silver Coin. This didn’t happen on just one occasion, but 3 or 4 separate occasions, spaced out over days or weeks. Just agonizing.

After I finished my bitch session, I fished up 2 copper coins and then…

[\*\*Alleria’s Silver Coin!!!

SQUEEEEEEE!!!\*\*]([World of Warcraft](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=43686))

Got my [Silver In The City and The Coin Master Achievements](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Yeticalayla&alink=169:6:2095#ach2095) and now I can somewhat fondly say goodbye to that blasted fountain.

On a side note, I asked **Runestar** if he needed any of the coins to see if it registered towards his achievements and his reply…

Naw, already have those…:smack:  
So, is it possible for traded coins to register towards the achievements for another player? They are not soulbound, so has anyone tried this?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9040 "2010-02-06T00:08:55Z")

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Just noting that I got my new computer yesterday evening. I had a minor scare. They only sent me a VGA cord for the 22" widescreen monitor, so I plugged it into the VGA port in the back of the computer and got NOTHING! “No signal”. I was ready to scream…I plugged and unplugged and plugged again and tried the old monitor and…nothing. Finally, I opened up the box and saw that the VGA port was onboard, whereas I had ordered a GeForce 9600 to be put in the box. Well, I look more closely and the 9600 is there…but it has no VGA port. Only VDI and S-Video. I had a moment of genius and remembered that there was some sort of adapter in my spare parts drawer for video. I went and looked and it was, thank Og, a VGA-to-VDI adapter and that solved the problem.

I have reactivated my WoW account and I’m in the process of figuring out which of my add-ons have survived the last few patches that I missed. Keeping the old contingent doesn’t work…I logged in (OMG, is Azeroth gorgeous with everything turned all the way UP) and I had no action bars at all! So I’ve been playing today with just Bartender, FuBar and its hangers-on, and EQCompare.

I can’t get over how beautiful this game is when you can actually utilize the visual effects!

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