# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 470
**Author:** ![Lips\_Obsession](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@Lips\_Obsession](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lips_Obsession)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9381 "2010-02-17T16:46:07Z")
IronForge is my home-away-from-home. I beleive I started out in Stormwind as a human, but as a miner, my stepson quickly directed me to Ironforge and I reset my hearth there. I like the layout - AH and bank are across from each other, and other important things are close-by too. Since leveling, I reset my hearth to Shattrath (to access the portals), and most recently, to Dalron, but that one is so slow…from being overcrowded. I generally hearth there, and then run next door to the portals and go back to IF to deal with my bags, bank, and AH. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9382 "2010-02-17T16:47:11Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I remember going up that road when I was a level 8 or 9, and some guy came running past me and laughed at **Wolkie’s** name, and **then** he did what I can only describe as a “double-take”, came running back and asked, “What are you **doing** here??? You’ll get killed!” > > I told him I was trying to get to Iron Forge - whereupon he stood there in silence for a few seconds, then took pity on me and told me to get to Stormwind and catch the tram. Quasi, I did the same thing on my first toon. I had picked up a quest in the Dwarf quarter of Stormwind, a delivery I was supposed to make to Ironforge. So I looked at the map and figured out how to get there (it looked like a long way). So I hit the road - I was probably about level 11 or 12. I got past the town in Redridge and then kept getting completely owned by these guys who hide behind a rock next to the road just north of town. Nobody ever came by to tell me about the tram, though … I had to figure that out much later. You were lucky! ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9383 "2010-02-17T16:49:36Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I got past the town in Redridge and then kept getting completely owned by these guys who hide behind a rock next to the road just north of town. Nobody ever came by to tell me about the tram, though … I had to figure that out much later. You were lucky! heh heh I’m killing these guys right now to get 10 battered war axes. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9384 "2010-02-17T16:55:46Z")
Incidentally, **One and Only** , if you do Deadmines, don’t forget to pick up the quests for in there. I know that Whatshisname up in front of the tower door in Sentinel Hill has one, to kill Van Cleef, if you’ve done all the Defias quests (up to and including escorting the Defias Traitor back to Moonbrook to find the entrance to Deadmines). And there’s at least another one at the top of the tower, to bring back silk bandannas off the Defias in there, I think. Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9385 "2010-02-17T16:57:56Z")
Burning Dog Legion – weekly Dungeon Run tonight, 8:45 pm or thereabouts. Tonight I’m planning for us to leave Hellfire Citadel behind and make our way to the first part of Coilfang Resevoir: The Slave Pens. Come kill boglords and those nasty Naga! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9386 "2010-02-17T17:10:45Z")
**jayjay** , there’s also some guy that walks along that road (near DM) you have watch for (a scout of some kind, IIRC)? Also, on the Deadmines quest: Every now and then you’ll see someone appear in the chat window asking if anyone needs a “run through DM”. I’d take 'em up on it, because things get pretty dicey down at the bottom. All that is if you’re Alliance. Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9387 "2010-02-17T17:27:09Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **jayjay** , there’s also some guy that walks along that road (near DM) you have watch for (a scout of some kind, IIRC)? Yeah, the Defias Messenger. I don’t know how far along **One and Only** got on the People’s Militia questline. I was assuming he’d done up to the Messenger, at least. How far did you get on the “Kill Defias” quests, **One and Only**? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9388 "2010-02-17T17:39:28Z")
So I’m on my bank alt last night, collecting my money, putting stuff up for auction, and what not. My bank alt has some stuff he never puts up for auction: some soulbound holiday food that I’ve never bothered to throw away, for example. Some winterveil pets I’m holding on to until summer, hoping prices will go up. And that Haunted Mememto from the launch of WotLK. Then I think, you know, I don’t really use that Haunted Memento. The only thing it does is give you a “Haunted” debuff which causes you to be followed by an untargettable ghost-like appirition, kind of like a vanity pet. So I use Auctioneer to tell me what I might be able to sell it for. I do an auction scan several times a week so my data is pretty up to date. Well according to the addon, I’ve seen 7 of these mementos up for auction (none are there now). The suggested price? Just shy of 11,000 gold. :eek: So I went ahead and put it up for auction (for 10Kg). Don’t know if will ever sell or how long it might take, but that would be quite a payday for an essentially useless item! ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9389 "2010-02-17T18:00:59Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > So I’m on my bank alt last night, collecting my money, putting stuff up for auction, and what not. My bank alt has some stuff he never puts up for auction: some soulbound holiday food that I’ve never bothered to throw away, for example. Some winterveil pets I’m holding on to until summer, hoping prices will go up. And that Haunted Mememto from the launch of WotLK. > > Then I think, you know, I don’t really use that Haunted Memento. The only thing it does is give you a “Haunted” debuff which causes you to be followed by an untargettable ghost-like appirition, kind of like a vanity pet. So I use Auctioneer to tell me what I might be able to sell it for. I do an auction scan several times a week so my data is pretty up to date. > > Well according to the addon, I’ve seen 7 of these mementos up for auction (none are there now). The suggested price? Just shy of 11,000 gold. :eek: > > So I went ahead and put it up for auction (for 10Kg). Don’t know if will ever sell or how long it might take, but that would be quite a payday for an essentially useless item! Wow! I’ve had one of those things following me around ever since the zombie event. It’s just in my bag, never really thought about it. But if it sells for that much, I might just have to consider parting with it. I’ll have to check on my server. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9390 "2010-02-17T19:08:55Z")
> [@martu](#): > > As far as I know Quasi all items that you pick up have 100% durability so never need to be repaired no matter what they’re called. However when you die all your gear, including stuff in your bags, takes a durability hit so this is probably what has happened to you previously that has required repairs before selling. You’re obviously a lot harder to kill these days, good work 🙂 Also, **Quasi** rezzes at the Spirit Healer quite a bit, and that damages stuff in his bags as well. > [@](#): > > Congratulations **Mister Rik** for your dungeon achievements. Thanks 🙂 Yeah, we did them over-level, but 2-manning was still a challenge. The only major advantage of being over-level was that we were able to simply sneak past much of the trash, which speeded things up. The bosses (and the trash we couldn’t sneak past) were still quite challenging. We had to sort of get a system going of taking turns as tank/DPS/healer, even during the same fight. > [@jayjay](#): > > Incidentally, **One and Only** , if you do Deadmines, don’t forget to pick up the quests for in there. I know that Whatshisname up in front of the tower door in Sentinel Hill has one, to kill Van Cleef, if you’ve done all the Defias quests (up to and including escorting the Defias Traitor back to Moonbrook to find the entrance to Deadmines). And there’s at least another one at the top of the tower, to bring back silk bandannas off the Defias in there, I think. > > Those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. There’s also a dwarf in the SW Dwarven District who wants you to go collect Miner’s Badges (or whatever they’re called) from the undeadified miners in there, but they’re in the caves before the actual instance. I think there’s one more quest that sends you into the same area, but I don’t recall where you get that quest. It’s also somewhere in SW, I believe. I am discovering that some people get really touchy about being the target for the various holiday quests. I spotted a gnome in IF /yelling, “DAMMIT! ENOUGH WITH THE DAMN HEARTS ALREADY!” And I got cussed out by another gnome in SW after I spritzed him with a perfume sample. I wonder if they were PvPers who were queued for a BG and didn’t want a heart floating over their head to give away their positions. It is rather unfortunate that you can’t right-click it away like you can with, say, the jack o’ lantern heads during the Halloween holiday. OTOH, I discovered that NPCs are also valid targets, so I’ve taken to spritzing them instead. I also found I can keep spritzing even after I get the 10 I need for the quest, so on my belf pally I decided to hit all the guards in front of the palace in SMC. Then I took a screenshot, because it looks like [all these guards are very happy to see Keliraeda](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/happy_to_see_keli.jpg) 😛 Keliraeda (lvl 77) had a surprisingly easy time collecting the elders in Darnassus and Dolanaar. I found a spot in Auberdine where she could wait, mounted, without getting flagged for PvP; it was lined up with the door to the inn, and I could also see when the boat from Darnassus was arriving. So as soon as I spotted the boat, I charged through the inn, down the docks, and onto the boat just as it pulled in. On the boat, I was attacked by a level 1 human warrior with starting gear (WTF?). Of course, he died on my Retribution Aura and then probably couldn’t run back to his corpse because it left with me on the boat … Anyway, the boat arrived at Rut’Theran Village and I raced through the portal and then straight through Darnassus without stopping. Rode all the way to Dolanaar, got the elder there, then rode back to Darnassus. There, I galloped to the elder in the Cenarion Enclave by way of the Craftsman’s Terrace, then back to the portal and popped out in Rut’Theran Village just as the boat was arriving again. Straight onto the boat and back to Auberdine, then bailed off the boat before it docked and I went around Auberdine on my way to Ashenvale. I really liked the way the timing worked out: by not stopping except to talk to the elders, the whole circuit from Rut’Theran -\> Dolanaar -\> Darnassus -\> Rut’Theran appeared to take the same amount of time as one boat circuit. Though after that warrior died on my ret aura I switched to Crusader Aura, so I was moving faster. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9391 "2010-02-17T19:14:00Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > So I’m on my bank alt last night, collecting my money, putting stuff up for auction, and what not. My bank alt has some stuff he never puts up for auction: some soulbound holiday food that I’ve never bothered to throw away, for example. Some winterveil pets I’m holding on to until summer, hoping prices will go up. And that Haunted Mememto from the launch of WotLK. > > Then I think, you know, I don’t really use that Haunted Memento. The only thing it does is give you a “Haunted” debuff which causes you to be followed by an untargettable ghost-like appirition, kind of like a vanity pet. So I use Auctioneer to tell me what I might be able to sell it for. I do an auction scan several times a week so my data is pretty up to date. > > Well according to the addon, I’ve seen 7 of these mementos up for auction (none are there now). The suggested price? Just shy of 11,000 gold. :eek: > > So I went ahead and put it up for auction (for 10Kg). Don’t know if will ever sell or how long it might take, but that would be quite a payday for an essentially useless item! I too have one. Let me know if it sells. I like mine, and I am used to it, but money is money. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9392 "2010-02-17T19:46:58Z")
> [@](#): > > **kjckjc** > Burning Dog Legion What the? Where did you get that title??!! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9393 "2010-02-17T19:58:43Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Quasi, I did the same thing on my first toon. I had picked up a quest in the Dwarf quarter of Stormwind, a delivery I was supposed to make to Ironforge. So I looked at the map and figured out how to get there (it looked like a long way). So I hit the road - I was probably about level 11 or 12. > > I got past the town in Redridge and then kept getting completely owned by these guys who hide behind a rock next to the road just north of town. Nobody ever came by to tell me about the tram, though … I had to figure that out much later. You were lucky! I feel better now. Thanks, **Skammer**!🙂 Never even occurred to me to think, “Shit, that’s a long way to _run_!!!” Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9394 "2010-02-17T20:01:17Z")
What good are they? Tried to auction some several times, but no takers. Would an Alliance warrior ever have any use for these things? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9395 "2010-02-17T20:01:31Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > What the? Where did you get that title??!! [They’re selling custom titles now](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=552461). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9396 "2010-02-17T20:03:33Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > What good are they? Tried to auction some several times, but no takers. Would an Alliance warrior ever have any use for these things? > > Thanks > > Q Motes are used in some blacksmithing (and maybe leatherworking and tailoring?) recipes. Unfortunately, those are Burning Crusade recipes and the majority of the high-end crafters are in Northrend now (where crystalized and eternal elements are the crafting widget), so they’re not going to sell all that well on the AH. You could just vendor them and probably have a better chance of getting a good price. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9397 "2010-02-17T20:26:02Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > What good are they? Tried to auction some several times, but no takers. Would an Alliance warrior ever have any use for these things? Depends on the mote, but save them until you can create primals instead, takes 10 motes per primal, and try again. Water, air and fire can still be sold for some decent amounts of gold. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9398 "2010-02-17T20:37:49Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > OTOH, I discovered that NPCs are also valid targets, so I’ve taken to spritzing them instead. I also found I can keep spritzing even after I get the 10 I need for the quest, so on my belf pally I decided to hit all the guards in front of the palace in SMC. Then I took a screenshot, because it looks like [all these guards are very happy to see Keliraeda](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/happy_to_see_keli.jpg) 😛 Of course they are; she isn’t wearing any pants! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9399 "2010-02-17T20:39:23Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Of course they are; she isn’t wearing any pants! No, no…she’s wearing a platemail bikini! Standard female warrior wear in Azeroth, which operates on the Boris Vallejo Rules of Combat. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9400 "2010-02-17T20:44:37Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > [They’re selling custom titles now](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=552461). Man, you can’t skip a day of reading ATMB without missing something, can you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=469) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=471)