# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 482
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9621 "2010-03-01T19:38:13Z")
Curse screen shot for **SFG** : [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/curseadds.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/curseadds.jpg) I had already deleted a bunch of stuff… And yes, that IS my combat log, so I guess I need it? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9622 "2010-03-01T19:43:06Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Curse screen shot for **SFG** : > > [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/curseadds.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/curseadds.jpg) > > I had already deleted a bunch of stuff… Auctioneer uses a bunch of mini-addons to run it, stuff like BeanCounter and Informant. You may be seeing a lot of Auctioneer’s parts when you look at the list that’s in the addon screen in-game. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9623 "2010-03-01T20:06:31Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/curseadds.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/curseadds.jpg) Hrm, that doesn’t tell me everything you have installed. Could you please give me a screenshot of your actual addon folder? It should be in something like World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons. > [@](#): > > And yes, that IS my combat log, so I guess I need it? Yeah, I’m not even sure there’s a way to delete it. But it won’t show up if you have any other chat window showing, assuming they’re all docked together, which they should be. ETA: > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Auctioneer uses a bunch of mini-addons to run it, stuff like BeanCounter and Informant. Nitpick: A lot of the Auctioneer suite of addons isn’t actually things that are _required_. Stubby and Swatter are, but I believe that Beancounter, Informant, and Enchantrix are all independent addons. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9624 "2010-03-01T21:02:19Z")
**SFG** , This? [![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/addonssfg.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/addonssfg.jpg) Q ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9625 "2010-03-01T22:16:21Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > The other ones are all under your default action bar, I thought. If you take a look at it, you’ll see there are arrows to the immediate right of the bar to select which bar to use. Some classes will have fewer ones available, e.g. Warriors, who use some of them up as stance bars. But I think everyone will have a total of 10. IIRC, you can select a specific action bar by hitting Shift + that number, and I think Shift + scroll wheel will also move it up or down. By default, I think they’re numbered 1 thru 6, but those classes who’re missing bars will skip numbers. I think I said this earlier in the thread, those extra bars you can select with Shift+numbers are the same bars you get by turning on your Bottom Right/Left Bar and Right Bar 1&2. The default UI will not give you direct access to more than 6 bars regardless of class, the extra 4 you get through Bartender are those normally reserved for stances, though why there are 4 extra when no class has more than 3 stances that require their own bars I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9626 "2010-03-01T23:55:19Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > …why there are 4 extra when no class has more than 3 stances that require their own bars I have no idea. Is that right? I think Druids have a bar for Humanoid (shared with Aquatic, Travel and Flight IIRC), Bear, Cat, Stealthed Cat, and Tree/Boomkin. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9627 "2010-03-02T00:06:06Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Is that right? I think Druids have a bar for Humanoid (shared with Aquatic, Travel and Flight IIRC), Bear, Cat, Stealthed Cat, and Tree/Boomkin. Correct. We’re special. 😃 I swear I was going to wait on rolling up an Alliance Druid until Cataclysm had come out and I could do a Worgen, but I’m sorely tempted to go ahead and do a [del]Gorilla[/del] Night Elf anyway. Also, **Guns** : I got a raven o/~ 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9628 "2010-03-02T01:25:56Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Is that right? I think Druids have a bar for Humanoid (shared with Aquatic, Travel and Flight IIRC), Bear, Cat, Stealthed Cat, and Tree/Boomkin. No, I thought so too for a moment, but druid caster form is the default form so it uses Bar 1, not any of the hidden bars. Compare this to warriors where you can’t leave your stances, then you never actually see Bar 1, just the hidden bars. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9629 "2010-03-02T03:26:31Z")
Okay, **Quasi** , are you ready? **SFG’s Patented Method to Create a Custom Chat Window** 1.) Right-click “General” chat tab’s title area (where the name is). 2.) Select “Create New Window.” 3.) Under “Enter chat window name,” give your new tab a name, like “Filter.” 4.) Right-click the new chat tab’s title area. 5.) Click “Settings.” 6.) Under “Chat,” make sure that only the following are selected (check them and uncheck everything else): Guild Chat Officer Chat Guild Announce Whisper Party Party Leader Raid Raid Leader Raid Warning Battleground Battleground Leader 7.) Optionally, you can include any or all of: Say Emote Yell 8.) Under “Global Channels,” make sure to un-check **everything**. 9.) Under “Other,” make sure that only the following are selected (in the “Other” and “PvP” section of that page): System Messages Errors AFK DND Ignored Battleground Horde Battleground Alliance Battleground Neutral With a window set up as described, you won’t have to look at any of that General or Trade chat, but you’ll still see important messages: anything in whispers, raids, parties, BGs, etc. You can use this same method to create other custom chat tabs to include various things: just check or uncheck them to show them. If you’re not sure what heading a particular kind of chat or information falls under, just ask! > [@Quasimodem](#): > > This? [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/addonssfg.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/addonssfg.jpg) Yup, that! … But I need to be able to see everything in it. 😛 Go back to that same folder, click “Views,” then select “List.” That should give me enough space to see everything–if not, drag the window bigger until everything fits in. > [@Mogle](#): > > I think I said this earlier in the thread, those extra bars you can select with Shift+numbers are the same bars you get by turning on your Bottom Right/Left Bar and Right Bar 1&2. Well, go fig–ignorance fought. More reason for me to pick up Bartender, then. For Warriors, though, because of the way our stances work (i.e., in any given stance, we can’t use about half our abilities), we don’t really need more than the bars we get through the default UI. At least, I always have at least a couple spaces to spare. > [@Bosstone](#): > > I’m sorely tempted to go ahead and do a [del]Gorilla[/del] Night Elf anyway. Once you do, you will forever wonder how the hell you lived without Shadowmeld. And you’ll cry when you’re back on a toon that doesn’t have it. > [@](#): > > Also, **Guns** : > > I got a raven o/~ You go to hell. You go to hell and you die. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9630 "2010-03-02T04:04:49Z")
And just what the hell are you doing on the SD outside of business hours? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9631 "2010-03-02T04:43:22Z")
Update–Ding on World Explorer and Ding on Outland Dungeon master achievements. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9632 "2010-03-02T04:46:49Z")
> [@JayRx1981](#): > > Update–Ding on World Explorer and Ding on Outland Dungeon master achievements. 🙂 Grats! ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9633 "2010-03-02T04:52:03Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I love you. Thank you for being part of the 1% of the WoW population who understands that that’s how it’s supposed to work. To be fair, y’all are the ones who taught me that from your many helpful posts. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9634 "2010-03-02T13:04:55Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Get a new ladyfriend? 😃 > > I started playing when my boyfriend at the time suggested I play on his account during the day while he was at work when I was unemployed. I’d avoided the game before that, though I knew quite a few people who played it, because I knew I didn’t have the time to spare in college, when it came out. But I’ve always been a gamer, so. > > Have you tried setting her up with her own account through Recruit a Friend? It will work best if you have two computers in your home (preferably in the same room) if you live together; if you don’t, but you both have microphones and some kind of voice chat program, that would work, too. But being close by so you can lean over her shoulder and explain things will probably work best for getting her into the game if she’s not a big gamer to begin with. > > I specifically mentioned RaF because it comes with some really nice features: namely, the XP bonus and the summoning feature. These two are godly. (It also saves you some cash, since you get bonus playtime if she converts to a full account, and you get a mount if she pays for two months of playtime after that.) > [@aruvqan](#): > > I was a grrl gamer long before my husband picked up a bag of dice - my dad got me started doing napoleanic war sand table battles when I was about 4. At the time, I was more or less playing with dolls while he taught me strategy when he visited home on leave and weekends. We also watched war movies together [back in the 60s they showed a lot of the war movies shot in the 30s and 40s as they were in the rental to tv libraries. A lot of marines storming guadalcanal and older stuff like the 3 musketeers from the 30s, and Cyrano de Bergerac, stuff like that that shows 2 armies charging at each other like idiots] and I started reading random books from the bookshelves he had on tactics and history. I was also reading Tolkien =) THen we were at a gen con, and some guy had a game that he was getting people to try out that was _fantasy_ and I got hooked and more or less stopped doing earther wargaming when I could get others to play D&D. > > Eve Online isnt so much role playing as small and medium unit tactics and applied logistics =) Military schools should work it into their curriculums … 😃 > > But I got mrAru into online gaming with me, starting back with Everquest, moving to Warcrack and now playing Eve Online. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > In my case, I’m a woman and got my husband to play. 😃 He was averse from it when I was playing EverQuest, but he liked playing Neverwinter Nights multiplayer online with an online friend of mine. From there we graduated to City of Heroes, and then on to WoW. Thank you ladies, for all your stories. I guess it just seems like I needed to find a woman who was already into gaming, 'cause I really don’t think I’m going to be able to convince my ladyfriend into playing online. Perhaps someday in the future, but I highly doubt it. But, you have all given me hope, so I thank you for that. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Well, go fig–ignorance fought. More reason for me to pick up Bartender, then. > > For Warriors, though, because of the way our stances work (i.e., in any given stance, we can’t use about half our abilities), we don’t really need more than the bars we get through the default UI. At least, I always have at least a couple spaces to spare. Druid forms work the same way, where each form gets it’s own bar that changes when you change forms (but only that one bar changes, the others stay the same). I’m surprised you play with the default UI bars, Bartender or Dominos (which is what I use) are fairly lightweight and really help pretty up your UI, and make it more functional, to boot (here’s a link to my raiding UI: [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://imgur.com/56n91.jpg)). ---
**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9635 "2010-03-02T14:11:15Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 8.) Under “Global Channels,” make sure to un-check **everything**. I pretty much turn off 1)General chat on every character anymore. For some stupid reason I still have trade chat on though, even though I almost never use it. It can be both stupid and sometimes amusing in Trade, and I only have to listen to it when I hang out in cities. [QUOTE=JayRx1981] Update–Ding on World Explorer and Ding on Outland Dungeon master achievements. [/QUOTE] Congrats on those two. I would be happy to get just Eastern Kingdom explored completely on my priest. I random-queued with my Priest on Saturday, after picking up a full set of glyphs for my holy spec, and switching my Shadow spec into a Discipline PvP spec. I got the Culling of Strathorne Instance in the Caverns of Time. Totally Awesome! I have never run a Caverns of Time instance before, and this one had Chromie in it! Chromie has to be my favorite Warcraft NPC. There was a very experienced tank on the team, and the he pretty much gathered up the trash like a pro, we rushed through the instance fairly fast, but I still had time to listen to Arthas’ speeches. I remember playing that level in Warcraft 3. It was a blast running this instance. I’ve made it to 33 on my rogue. I’ve done a ton less questing than I did on my priest. I’ve had a lot more fun doing pvp and the occasional instance than doing the same old kill 10 X quest a million times. I’ve picked up Preparation on my rogue, and I’m working towards the Hemorrhage talent, because a guildie said it was awesome. Preparation has been a big help, especially when I need sprint or vanish to be up in WSG. ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9636 "2010-03-02T14:31:32Z")
I’m having such a fun time questing at the moment! I was looking at my achievements tab and I had about 2850/3000 quests completed, so I decided it was time to go back to questing. The funny thing is doing the quests that I’d done plenty of times on my (long since abandoned/deleted) alts, but never on my main. I started my main back in vanilla WoW and only did the direct quest lines from my starting area to my first city. This morning I flew to Booty Bay and picked up a bazillion quests to do. I’m now at 2965/3000 so should be able to get the achievement by the end of this weekend! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9637 "2010-03-02T14:40:07Z")
> [@MindWanderer](#): > > I random-queued with my Priest on Saturday, after picking up a full set of glyphs for my holy spec, and switching my Shadow spec into a Discipline PvP spec. I got the Culling of Strathorne Instance in the Caverns of Time. Totally Awesome! I have never run a Caverns of Time instance before, and this one had Chromie in it! Chromie has to be my favorite Warcraft NPC. > > There was a very experienced tank on the team, and the he pretty much gathered up the trash like a pro, we rushed through the instance fairly fast, but I still had time to listen to Arthas’ speeches. I remember playing that level in Warcraft 3. It was a blast running this instance. Well, you’ll always have time to listen to Arthas’ speeches because they pause the frigging game for them. Which is fun the first time but starts to grow old the fifth, never mind the fifteenth. (This is part of why I’ve abandoned my level 80 for the moment; all I’m doing with him is running the same heroics over and over again, because I don’t really have the solid blocks of time to devote to raiding; and they’re getting just a wee bit old.) ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9638 "2010-03-02T14:41:30Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Well, you’ll always have time to listen to Arthas’ speeches because they pause the frigging game for them. Which is fun the first time but starts to grow old the fifth, never mind the fifteenth. (This is part of why I’ve abandoned my level 80 for the moment; all I’m doing with him is running the same heroics over and over again, because I don’t really have the solid blocks of time to devote to raiding; and they’re getting just a wee bit old.) In the next patch we’ll have the option to skip the roleplay at the start, just like we do now with the TOTC dungeon. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9639 "2010-03-02T14:51:24Z")
> [@JayRx1981](#): > > Update–Ding on World Explorer and Ding on Outland Dungeon master achievements. 🙂 Nice! Randomed into Culling of Stratholme last night with my priest, also, and picked up [Got My Mind On My Money (5,000 gold)](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1178). Our party had a metric crapload of DPS – according to my boss mod we took town three of the bosses in record time for groups I’ve been in. Even standing around waiting for Arthas, we finished the whole instance in about 19 minutes. Then on my pally I quested a bit between running Shadowfang Keep (always my favorite) and Blackrock Depths. Both times, the tank dropped near the end – one boss left in SFK and two left in BRD – and we essentially four-manned the rest with me tanking/healing. Oh and one more example of holy pally uberness – at level 21 I was questing in Ambermill and accidentally pulled 6 mobs, not including their three voidwalkers and a couple of summoned cobras. My rotation became heal, heal, heal, autoattack, heal, heal, heal, judge, heal, heal, heal… and I took them all down (barely). /woot! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9640 "2010-03-02T14:54:25Z")
Hey, Skammer, how’s skinning working for you? My worry about it would be that there are a lot of instances with no or few skinnables - the entire Monastery except for a few dogs, which along with RFD (which has a couple pigs I guess) makes your entire level 30-40 levelling experience. (Also, a level 20 paladin tanking Blackrock Depths is indeed impressive, considering the monsters outlevel you by 30.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=481) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=483)