# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 487
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9721 "2010-03-04T19:21:30Z")
**Skammer** , IMHO, I think if you announce your intentions at the beginning of the instance and the reason why, I think that would pretty much remove 90-95% of the"WTF?"s when you Need on a particular item. You might get a response that you must put it on (to make it soulbound, therefore non-autionable), but you were gonna do that anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9722 "2010-03-04T19:34:40Z")
Basically, my way of dealing with similar situations (rolling on cloth as a resto druid - er, at least, when I had to roll for gear) is to ask the group if they’re cool with it. If not, I ask why, and usually can give them a reasonable response, and you have a perfectly viable reason for why you might Need on cloth/leather +Int/+SP gear. Sure, you might have an issue with a group here or there, but at that level you will be getting gear upgrades fairly rapidly, so don’t let it bother you too much. ---
**Author:** ![Foma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Foma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foma)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9723 "2010-03-04T19:43:49Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Let me ask about Needing. > > If I’m in a group with a mage and a priest, for example, and a nice cloth belt drops that is an upgrade for me, is it wrong for me to Need it? I feel bad about it so I haven’t done it, but I wonder how the cloth-wearers would react if I did. I once rolled need on a leather item (there were no leather wearers in the group) and got a “WTF?” from another player. I’m leveling a baby elemental shammy right now, so I feel your pain. I roll Need on anything (cloth or leather) that is a stats upgrade. In fact, I’m pretty sure he’s still wearing Arugal’s Robe… _checks_ Yup. Still wearing it. If someone else wants a cloth item, I usually make a judgment call on who needs it more. For example, I have two pieces of heirloom gear and do not need those bracers with 1 extra spirit, so I’ll usually just let 'em pass. However, if Whitemane’s Chapeau drops, I’ll fight you for it. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9724 "2010-03-04T19:51:55Z")
Also, I really need new pants. I’m wearing a mail chestpiece, these fancy giant mail shoulders, big boots, and itty-bitty cloth short-shorts. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9725 "2010-03-04T20:31:43Z")
Yup. I’ve had people comment about some guild names on my realm as, “Man, I’d never join them because their name… well, really? Really?” even though the guilds in question are pretty good. And Whitemane’s Chapeau is very nice. Hell, my holy priest didn’t trade it in until she was a good few levels into Outland and got the Shadowbrim Travel Hat. 😃 I completely understand. I agree that you should explain the itemization issue and iron out the rolls. You’ll still get clothies who say “QQ MOAR”, though. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9726 "2010-03-04T20:41:09Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > the Shadowbrim Travel Hat So does everyone in outland wear that damn hat? ---
**Author:** ![twhitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twhitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twhitt)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9727 "2010-03-04T20:48:48Z")
You’ll never completely get over the issue of wearing gear of lower armor class. It is as troublesome a question at 80 as it is at 20. I agree with the rule that you should initially state your intentions, but then I suggest that you just be done with it - don’t get drawn into an argument, or feel the need to cause or contribute to group drama. Some Mage or Warlock will invariably object, but the healer has as much right to gear upgrades as they do, and usually most of the group will understand this. If they don’t, well, you’re harder to replace then they are so the repercussions won’t usually be very bad. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9728 "2010-03-04T21:28:35Z")
As far as the game goes, do you have to have a monthly subscription, or can you just pay-as-you-go, lets say I subscribe for a month, then let it lapse, can I re-up and keep my characters (I’m only doing the solo game) or do I have to start fresh all over again IOW, can the game be played “casually”? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9729 "2010-03-04T21:39:56Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > As far as the game goes, do you have to have a monthly subscription, or can you just pay-as-you-go, lets say I subscribe for a month, then let it lapse, can I re-up and keep my characters (I’m only doing the solo game) or do I have to start fresh all over again > > IOW, can the game be played “casually”? They don’t purge your toons. You can cancel your sub, take a three-month break, renew your sub and step right back into your characters. It IS a rolling subscription, though…it’s automatic renewal each month unless you actually go in and cancel. The account won’t lapse on its own unless you’re using time cards. ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9730 "2010-03-04T21:41:28Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > As far as the game goes, do you have to have a monthly subscription, or can you just pay-as-you-go, lets say I subscribe for a month, then let it lapse, can I re-up and keep my characters (I’m only doing the solo game) or do I have to start fresh all over again > > IOW, can the game be played “casually”? Your subscriptions can be set up as 1, 3 or 6 months and if you let it lapse your characters will be there as you left them when ever you decide to pick the game up again. And yes, it can be played very casually if thats what your into. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9731 "2010-03-04T21:49:27Z")
You can also buy game cards with 30 or 60 days’ worth of time on them, if you don’t want to sign up with a credit card. If you don’t want to play one month, just let it lapse and then buy another card when you’re ready to pick up again. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9732 "2010-03-04T22:16:47Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Too bad we can’t change the BDL’s name. I was just about to ask where the name came from, anyway, but I think I finally figured it out. Burning Legion + I burning you dog = Burning Dog Legion. :smack: > [@Skammer](#): > > If I’m in a group with a mage and a priest, for example, and a nice cloth belt drops that is an upgrade for me, is it wrong for me to Need it? Will the interface in a random group even let you? When it first came out, you couldn’t Need roll outside of your native armor class. Because of the dearth of caster Mail at your current level, you’re probably okay. However, you should be very careful about continuing this habit once you reach a level where your native armor class (whether still Mail or on to Plate) is providing items you can use as Holy. The Cloth and Leather classes don’t have the luxury of rolling on your pre-40 Mail and 40+ Plate, so give them the first stab at the drops that were intended for them. > [@lizardling](#): > > Yup. I’ve had people comment about some guild names on my realm as, “Man, I’d never join them because their name… well, really? Really?” even though the guilds in question are pretty good. When I was looking for a new guild after AF broke up, part of the reason I refused to consider \, one of BT’s top raiding guilds, was the stupid pot-reference name. (It wasn’t the only reason, though.) > [@twhitt](#): > > Some Mage or Warlock will invariably object, but the healer has as much right to gear upgrades as they do, and usually most of the group will understand this. This may be true at lower levels where there’s almost no caster Mail, but it becomes increasingly inaccurate as you level up. IMO, there is no excuse for a person to roll Need on a lower armor class when someone native to that armor class can use it as an upgrade for their main spec. You can always go grind for the Plate or Leather piece they can’t wear; they don’t have that option. > [@MacTech](#): > > As far as the game goes, do you have to have a monthly subscription, or can you just pay-as-you-go, lets say I subscribe for a month, then let it lapse, can I re-up and keep my characters (I’m only doing the solo game) or do I have to start fresh all over again IIRC, the only way to pay directly with a credit card is to get an automatically recurring subscription, which will either charge you for one, three, or six months at a time (with small price breaks for the longer payment periods). However, you can also buy game cards for (I think) the same price, which you can then redeem on your account. Regardless of payment type, you can stop paying at any time and all that happens is your account is suspended. As of right now, your characters will never be deleted, and there has never been any hint that Blizzard has any plans to change that policy. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9733 "2010-03-04T22:20:21Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > …having the GM get annoyed (or drunk) one night and rename it \ or something. I am sooo stealing that name for the next guild I create! > [@Skammer](#): > > The Burning Dog Legion successfully cleared out the Mana Tombs last night. We had two pallies (prot and ret), two priests (holy and shadow) and a hunter. Technically, I am a Prot Pally, too. I just switched to DPS role in the party so we did not have to rochambeau to see who tanked. 🙂 Great run, though. I am just sorry that at the rate my pally has been lvling I will be too high to join the next run. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9734 "2010-03-05T01:41:13Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > _snip_ > > You know, you \*could \*just look at your keybindings menu… > > _snip_ Bwahaha! The easy way? That’s for smart people. Actually I usually forget there is such a thing since I set it up forever ago and never checked it since. > [@winterhawk11](#): > > _snip_ > If nothing else, I’d like to see it be fairly costly (maybe on a sliding scale based on the number of members) to change a guild name. So maybe a guild with only 10 members might cost 10g or so to change, but one with 300 members might be 1000g or more. Actually I was thinking real world money like $20 or so. That’d keep the jackass guild leaders from changing the guild name every other day to something stupid and wasting the guilds money. I like your sliding scale idea though. Like $10 for every 50 or 100 members. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9735 "2010-03-05T02:21:09Z")
Well you know, me and **Wolkie** got us a “hard-on” for one of them Fel Reavers over in HP when we reach 70. I _know_ they’re 70 Elties, but dontch’all think we can give 'em a good fight and take 'em down? Also, you know that conflagration you see at the bottom of the stairs as you come through the Blasted Lands portal into the Outlands? Kinda looks like “Pig Pen” from Peanuts with all the shit going on? Can we hop into that melee and do some good or best just to move along nothing to see here? Can’t believe we’re 67, Dude!!! Thanks to everyone here, man! thanks to everyone here! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9736 "2010-03-05T04:41:01Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well you know, me and **Wolkie** got us a “hard-on” for one of them Fel Reavers over in HP when we reach 70. > > I _know_ they’re 70 Elties, but dontch’all think we can give 'em a good fight and take 'em down? > > Also, you know that conflagration you see at the bottom of the stairs as you come through the Blasted Lands portal into the Outlands? Kinda looks like “Pig Pen” from Peanuts with all the shit going on? > > Can we hop into that melee and do some good or best just to move along nothing to see here? > > Can’t believe we’re 67, Dude!!! Thanks to everyone here, man! thanks to everyone here! > > Quasi Both the reavers and those demons at the base of the stairs are elites. You MIGHT do okay with the rest of the non-player characters with the demons, but the reaver is probably going to be beyond you solo until you’re close to 80. A death knight might be able to do it at around 75, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9737 "2010-03-05T04:51:35Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > At least it’s not Burning Dog Lesion. How about a variation based on something I just read today in Terry Pratchett’s Discworld book, _Night Watch_: Burning Dog-Botherers Legion 😃 > [@lizardling](#): > > Yup. I’ve had people comment about some guild names on my realm as, “Man, I’d never join them because their name… well, really? Really?” even though the guilds in question are pretty good. A “silly” name I wouldn’t mind (I was quite amused by the guild name \ I spotted over on Zangarmarsh). It’s the ones with the blatant misspellings — not deliberate or “clever” misspellings, but the ones where the person who typed it clearly simply didn’t know how to spell the word correctly — and the ones where the guild founder couldn’t be bothered to capitalize the appropriate words. Those just say to me “bunch of kids”. > [@](#): > > And Whitemane’s Chapeau is very nice. Hell, my holy priest didn’t trade it in until she was a good few levels into Outland and got the Shadowbrim Travel Hat. 😃 I completely understand. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So does everyone in outland wear that damn hat? Nah, my mage wears [Mirren’s Drinking Hat](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23587) 😛 > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well you know, me and **Wolkie** got us a “hard-on” for one of them Fel Reavers over in HP when we reach 70. > > I _know_ they’re 70 Elties, but dontch’all think we can give 'em a good fight and take 'em down? Only if you bring a bunch of friends along to help. I went back at _level 80_ and tried to take on one of those things, and got pounded into paste. Those Fel Reavers are tougher than many of the level 75-76 elites in Northrend. I might go try again, though, since my gear is much, much better now than it was the last time I tried. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9738 "2010-03-05T04:57:08Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Only if you bring a bunch of friends along to help. I went back at _level 80_ and tried to take on one of those things, and got pounded into paste. Those Fel Reavers are tougher than many of the level 75-76 elites in Northrend. I might go try again, though, since my gear is much, much better now than it was the last time I tried. I take great pleasure in cleaning the Fel Reaver’s clock on my ICC-geared 80 DK tank every time I encounter him, to pay him back for all the times he’s stepped on various toons of mine. My 80 mage (better geared than the DK) can’t solo him, though. He’s still hard on squishies. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9739 "2010-03-05T08:54:10Z")
Questhelper q One annoying thing with qiesthelper, some items, it tries to direct me to the nearest mailbox outside an inn, or an AH. I assume this is due to some people having procured the item in question from the AH and mailed it to an alt. How do I get it to stop trying to send me to the damn mailbox? I want to go to whichever area pops the item. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9740 "2010-03-05T10:55:52Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **martu** , IIRC if you turned in the quest that led you to the platform, you should be able to pick up any quests there again. Just fly back to the platform (it will look empty) and land. **Be sure to land on the right one** : look for the Horde banners or Alliance banners. After a second or two, the NPCs should phase in. Thanks I’ll give that a go, 118 quests down in Icecrown so a few to go for the achievement. Last night was one of those nights where very little thing I did was a joy. Firstly we successfully defended Wintergrasp and now I’ve been there a few times I have more of an idea where to go and what to do, I was a healing machine running behind our vanguard. Mana issues a few times but pure chaos and a lot of fun. Then it seems I spent most of the evening with the Lich King, if you haven’t quested in Icecrown and don’t want spoilers avoid the rest of this paragraph. I got to be him twice – once showing me how he created the ghouls by slaughtering his own men and then killing Illidan. A couple of qs later, and ‘masterfully’ disguised as a cultist, I’m with Tirion and The Ebon Blade and we end up battling him in a cathedral. Then finally I have a group quest in my log which gives me my last piece of gear required before I try Heroics, kind Guildy mage helps me out and in the process of killing Overthane Balargarde who shows up? Arthas again. I feel like we’re buddies now. As to guild names I like the odd myself so I am happy to be a Guru Thingy in \. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=486) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=488)