# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 493
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9841 "2010-03-11T18:23:47Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > You don’t even have to be prot for that. My level 31 holy paladin (in mostly dps gear but with a shield) recently took on 9 green mobs without breaking much of a sweat. It’s probably even slower than prot, though, because you basically just keep healing yourself until they’re all dead. I’ve tried to gather lots of mobs with my ret pally but they all fall down dead too fast. ---
**Author:** ![twhitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@twhitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twhitt)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9842 "2010-03-11T18:33:30Z")
> [@Lips\_Obsession](#): > > Ok, I dinged 74 last night with my Ret Pally… (my only toon so far). The wait times for LFG are pretty bad as DPS getting to the high levels, so I am considering rolling another toon, also so I can learn more about either Tanking or Healing. > > 1stly…would I be better served going dual-spec with my existing Pally and learning to heal or tank on him, or should I roll a new toon and “work my way up” so to speak? > > Secondly…if the latter, suggestions and recommendations on which is easier to learn - healing or tanking, and what class to choose for that… > > Keep in mind I enjoyed the fact that I could do a lot of solo questing with my Ret Pally and didn’t have to worry much about the mobs I would run into running around. As long as I stay in zones that are close to level-appropriate, I never had to worry about being over my head. I would like to choose something for this heal/tank toon that wouldn’t be horribly dependent on others to survive… > > Thanks guys!!! I’ve got an 80 Feral Druid, Prot Paladin and Prot Warrior. Which one you may want to tank with depends on your personality more than anything else. I started with my Druid, and he’s my basis for comparison. Compared to a Druid, a Warrior tank feels much more mobile, and more versatile. He can quickly get to problem areas, and has more tools for any situation. The Druid compared to the Warrior feels more sturdy, with fewer buttons to press to get the same job done. He’s a straightforward kind of bear. The Paladin tank compared to either the Warrior or the Druid feels very detached, above the fray. His rotation is practically the same no matter what you’re fighting, but like the Druid he has fewer buttons to remember in an emergency. The Paladin feels sturdier than the Warrior, slower but with as many tools. The Paladin feels complicated compared to a Bear, with a fun rotation that’s not terribly button-mashy. I cannot speak for the DK, since my highest is only about 65, but as the anti-paladin he’s got some of the same AoE versatility as a Paladin with the wide variety of emergency buttons of the Warrior. If I were in your position, I’d pick up some pieces of tank gear (check the Auction House for “Tempered Saronite” to get started) and queue for random dungeons. At 74, expectations on your ability won’t be so high that you’re not able to get started, and you’d prefer to start now than at 80. Your primary spells will be Consecrate, Judgement (any, I like Wisdom), Hammer of the Righteous, and Holy Shield. At 75 you will add Shield of Righteousness. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9843 "2010-03-11T19:03:08Z")
> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#): > > And then, after lamenting about it, he sorta tried to trade it to me. FWIW, you can only trade BoP drops or conjured items cross-realm. So unless he happened to be on the same server as you, even if he wanted to trade the item over, he couldn’t. > [@](#): > > Second group had a good tank, but one of the other DPS was a hunter who’d come in without a pet, hoping to tame one of the birds. There’s \*\*no \*\*excuse for this now that you can teleport out and in any time you want with the random dungeon matcher. I dunno how good you are from confrontation (probably not very, if you’re too shy to come run with \*us \*:D), but next time, you can try telling the Hunter to go get their pet, and then port out to stable it when they’re ready to tame the new one. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9844 "2010-03-11T19:07:31Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > (probably not very, if you’re too shy to come run with \*us \*:D) To be fair, **Guns** , you can make trolls cry. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9845 "2010-03-11T19:12:23Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > To be fair, **Guns** , you can make trolls cry. Well, yeah, but that’s in the Pit. I’m mostly a civilized person outside of there. … Mostly. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9846 "2010-03-11T19:49:21Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > FWIW, you can only trade BoP drops or conjured items cross-realm. So unless he happened to be on the same server as you, even if he wanted to trade the item over, he couldn’t. It was BoE, not BoP, so I don’t think he should’ve had a problem. > [@](#): > > There’s \*\*no \*\*excuse for this now that you can teleport out and in any time you want with the random dungeon matcher. I dunno how good you are from confrontation (probably not very, if you’re too shy to come run with \*us \*:D), but next time, you can try telling the Hunter to go get their pet, and then port out to stable it when they’re ready to tame the new one. I’m good at confrontation when I don’t _know_ the person–we think she wanted one of the silvery dragon-looking things as her pet, and damn anyone else. And…the shy’s only part of it. Cailín–my character in BDL–is only level 60, and I’m not sure how to level her alone without getting bored out of my skull. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9847 "2010-03-11T19:56:19Z")
> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#): > > It was BoE, not BoP, so I don’t think he should’ve had a problem. Exactly. I think you misread: \*\*only \*\*BoPs or conjureds can be traded: \*\*NOT \*\*BoEs. > [@](#): > > And…the shy’s only part of it. Cailín–my character in BDL–is only level 60, and I’m not sure how to level her alone without getting bored out of my skull. Isn’t that about the level of the people who are running weekly randoms in BDL? ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9848 "2010-03-11T20:16:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Exactly. I think you misread: \*\*only \*\*BoPs or conjureds can be traded: \*\*NOT \*\*BoEs. Whoops. Sorry. > [@](#): > > Isn’t that about the level of the people who are running weekly randoms in BDL? Last I checked, it was around 64; I could be wrong, though. I probably am; it’s kind of my thing. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9849 "2010-03-11T20:51:40Z")
They might be that high by now. But I don’t think 60 to 64 is \*that \*big of a gap–you could probably queue for randoms together. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9850 "2010-03-11T21:18:29Z")
And even if not, it’s not tough to get to 64 from 60 in a week, although my mage is kind of stalling out around there (mostly due to the baby Druid I’m futzing with). ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9851 "2010-03-11T21:48:00Z")
Hey! Get away from that baby Druid! We ban your kind here, you know. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9852 "2010-03-11T21:53:38Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > (mostly due to the baby Druid I’m futzing with). You know that’s only supposed to go on in the Tram tunnels, right? > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Hey! Get away from that baby Druid! We ban your kind here, you know. No, no…we just forbid them to talk about it, and then start warning other people not to goad them into talking about it, then a month later we ban them. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9853 "2010-03-11T21:54:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Hey! Get away from that baby Druid! We ban your kind here, you know. :puts the pruning shears behind his back: I wasn’t doing anything! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9854 "2010-03-11T22:20:13Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > No, no…we just forbid them to talk about it, and then start warning other people not to goad them into talking about it, then a month later we ban them. Well, yeah. I was just being succinct. > [@Bosstone](#): > > :puts the pruning shears behind his back: But… but… they don’t even \*get \*tree form until level… What on earth were you \*doing \*with those?! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9855 "2010-03-11T22:21:49Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > But… but… they don’t even \*get \*tree form until level… What on earth were you \*doing \*with those?! Blowing your mind, apparently. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9856 "2010-03-11T22:34:05Z")
Sorry, to busy clearing brain-goo off my keyboard to respond. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9857 "2010-03-11T22:43:20Z")
/popcorn ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9858 "2010-03-11T22:52:07Z")
\*\*too \*busy Apparently you did literally blow my brain away. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9859 "2010-03-12T02:54:29Z")
Well, not really _talking_, but writing and not about _us_ per se, but about gaming. Apparently, from what I have read in this new novel called Roadside Crosses, there’s a game called Dimension Quest which is even bloodier and more popular than our beloved WoW. He gets the terminology right (“corpse camping”, for example), but I think he’s kinda wrong in painting us as recluses who do nothing but sit in front of our computers and living in an alternative “world”. Yes, I love it there, and I love role-playing, but not to the point where I don’t eat or neglect personal hygiene.🙂 Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/9860 "2010-03-12T14:00:39Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > You don’t even have to be prot for that. My level 31 holy paladin (in mostly dps gear but with a shield) recently took on 9 green mobs without breaking much of a sweat. It’s probably even slower than prot, though, because you basically just keep healing yourself until they’re all dead. Yes absolutely, this is something I am trying to learn now. I have failed a couple of group quests in Icecrown as Prot so I am going to give them a go as Holy. I’m thinking the no knockback Heals plus the huge mana pool is the way to go. Plus having 17k SP adds quite a whack on Holy Shock, SoR and I think Consecrate is affected too have to check that. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I’ve tried to gather lots of mobs with my ret pally but they all fall down dead too fast. :). Something in me thinks it’s wrong to have a paladin without a shield, no idea why. I built my first vehicle in WG last night, yet more fun to be had in PvP. Also hit revered with the Sons of Hodir, a good night. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=492) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=494)