# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 534
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10662 "2010-04-15T16:30:02Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > How does one open the guild recruitment channel? > > Thanks > > Q I don’t know details because I have no way of getting into the game right now, but watch your chat box. If you see someone talking in the Guild Recruitment channel (which will say Guild Recruitment: before their line), notice the number in front of it. I honestly don’t remember what number that channel is offhand. Open your chat text box, type (without the quotes) “/(number of Guild Recruitment channel):” and the text box should change so you’re typing your message in Guild Recruitment. Then just type your Guild message and hit Enter like you normally do. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10663 "2010-04-15T16:40:53Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Here’s how I do it: > 1.) Pick my meta gem and socket it. > 2.) Figure out what I need to activate the meta gem. If I can do it with a prismatic gem, so much the better, since that will free up more slots for my optimal gem(s). > 3.) Socket the meta-activating gems in slots where I will get the best socket bonuses. > 4.) Fill all remaining sockets with my optimal gem(s), regardless of socket color. Another really helpful thing you can do (though it will cost you a bit–probably about as much as an epic gem) is find a slot you don’t really care about the bonus for and put a “Nightmare Tear” in it. These gems are really neat, because they count as _every_ color (all at once!) and they give you +10 to all your stats. So, for example, if you had a meta that required one blue, one red, and one yellow gem to activate, all you’d have to do is slot one Nightmare Tear and you’re free to fill all the rest of your slots with your optimal gems. I didn’t realize this until my spouse told me about it awhile back, but it really helps especially with the metas that have annoying requirements. ETA: I think this is what \*\*SFG \*\*was referring to with “prismatic gem.” It used to be jewelcrafter gems counted as prismatic too, but they nerfed that awhile back. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10664 "2010-04-15T17:12:24Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Hellfire, jammy to meetcha! > > Ta’ > > Q (Did I get all of that right? Googled Yorkshire phrases!:)) well not sure if Hellfire is a yorkshire term, and jammy just means lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10665 "2010-04-15T17:24:50Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > As an aside, what is spell penetration good for? PvP and only PvP. Makes spells more effective against enemy player targets. > [@winterhawk11](#): > > Another really helpful thing you can do (though it will cost you a bit–probably about as much as an epic gem) is find a slot you don’t really care about the bonus for and put a “Nightmare Tear” in it. Actually, you’d want to put the Nightmare Tear in a slot that you \*\*\*absolutely \*\*\*care about the bonus for. Otherwise you’re wasting it! That’s the beauty of a prismatic gem: it will activate \*any \*socket bonus. The one thing you do not want to do is put a prismatic gem into a slot that could be activated by your gem of choice. The idea here is to use it to activate a socket bonus that you’d otherwise miss. > [@](#): > > ETA: I think this is what \*\*SFG \*\*was referring to with “prismatic gem.” It used to be jewelcrafter gems counted as prismatic too, but they nerfed that awhile back. Bingo. The Nightmare Tear is currently the best prismatic gem, and JC-exclusive gems (Dragon’s Eyes) are no longer prismatic. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10666 "2010-04-15T17:29:23Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > As an aside, what is spell penetration good for? > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > PvP and only PvP. Makes spells more effective against enemy player targets. Ah. As someone whose damage comes in shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, and shadow flavors, I was wondering if I’d want to have something in case of particular encounters with high shadow resistance. Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10667 "2010-04-15T17:35:24Z")
[http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/](http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/) Ohhhh…must have. MUST HAVE!! And it’s BoA, so every character on your account will get one too. Damn you, authenticator! I’m at work so I can’t buy one until I get home, because if you have an authenticator, it’s required to get into the Blizzard store. I predict that everybody and their uncle will have one of these by tonight, but I don’t care! Now my Spectral Tiger can have a friend. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10668 "2010-04-15T17:36:47Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > IIRC, waaaay back, you used to be able to lose faction rep by something called “Dishonorable Kills,” but that mechanic has been gone a long time. As of right now, there is no way to lose rep with your faction cities once you’ve gained it. Nah, even though the manual said so, Dishonorable Kills never affected your reputations. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10669 "2010-04-15T17:48:41Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Of course, if your DPS is that low, you probably shouldn’t be in H-HoR anyway. 😛 Yeah, that was my opinion, especially since we didn’t have enough total DPS output to finish the Lich King gauntlet. Fortunately I have mana regen out the wazoo so I managed during the initial fights to keep everyone up without drinking, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10670 "2010-04-15T17:52:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Ah. As someone whose damage comes in shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, shadow, and shadow flavors, I was wondering if I’d want to have something in case of particular encounters with high shadow resistance. Guess not. I don’t think it matters on bosses. Spell pen is useful in PvP (as SFG pointed out) to get through the base level of resistances that an opponent is likely to have (basically Mark of the Wild). So, for example, a PvP Survival hunter will often gem for 75 Spell Penetration to get full damage out of Explosive Shot even against a player target with MotW on them. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Daedelus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daedelus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10671 "2010-04-15T17:58:17Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > Congratulations! I’m so jealous 🙂 > > We made good progress last night, knocking out four more achievements on normal mode, so now we only have three left for the drake: the HM Sindragosa kill, the Sindragosa achievement (guess it will take us two weeks to get these two–I can’t imagine doing them simultaneously) and the 30 stacks one. Thanks for the tip on that, about it having to be exactly 30. I’m not sure any of us knew that. > > Those drakes are purdy, and I can’t wait to get mine! 🙂 > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Whoa, awesomely done! Thanks for the congratulations! Yeah, I’m still in the “new car” phase with the mount and just flying around randomly with it. We’ll see how long it lasts, but it is nice to have right now. **winterhawk11** , yeah, definitely don’t try and do HM and All You Can Eat in the same reset. HM gets real tricky in P3 (or 2, depending on how you count phases), and All You Can Eat can be a real pain in the ass if people aren’t dropping their stacks efficiently. We basically had the two tanks alternating the blocks they would run behind, so every time there was a tank transition, Sindragosa would flip directions. It did cause for some issues, but it was the fastest way for them to be able to drop stacks, and really, they should be the only ones that have any issues keeping their stacks under 5. As for Been Waiting A Long Time For This, definitely make sure to keep an eye on the _plague’s_ stack number and NOT the number on the Lich King. That was our first mistake (would have had the drakes a week earlier had we known). And for some reason, Blizzard’s programming is dumb and there is an “=” instead of a “\>” which makes it need to actually land on 30. The plague stack can skip if you have two separate stacks that merge (they both kill a ghoul, you have one at 28, that goes to 29, the other is at 1 goes to 2, but then merges with the other to hit 31). So, just be careful and you should be fine. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10672 "2010-04-15T18:17:30Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > [http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/](http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/) > > Ohhhh…must have. MUST HAVE!! > > And it’s BoA, so every character on your account will get one too. > > Damn you, authenticator! I’m at work so I can’t buy one until I get home, because if you have an authenticator, it’s required to get into the Blizzard store. > > I predict that everybody and their uncle will have one of these by tonight, but I don’t care! Now my Spectral Tiger can have a friend. 🙂 My inner little girl who used to collect unicorn and pegasus figurines just squeed loud enough to be heard outside my head. (I most certainly did not emit the squee myself, oh no.) I think I have to wait for next payday, though. Dammit! Want pretty star-filled flying horse! ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10673 "2010-04-15T18:59:08Z")
Spell pen: Post #[10642](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12340860&postcount=10642). \>.\> The horse looks really neat, though! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10674 "2010-04-15T19:01:43Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > [http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/](http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/) Damn you, Blizzard! Vanity pets I can ignore, but mounts…! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10675 "2010-04-15T19:06:35Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > [http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/](http://www.wow.com/2010/04/15/celestial-steed-lil-xt-now-active-on-the-blizzard-store/) > > Ohhhh…must have. MUST HAVE!! > > And it’s BoA, so every character on your account will get one too. _ **!!!** _ I’d been wondering about it ever since someone datamined the model. How much is it going for? Can’t get to even the store from work. > [@Jas09](#): > > I don’t think it matters on bosses. Nope, AFAIK Spell Pen does literally \*nothing \*in PvE. It is a completely useless stat outside of PvP. > [@Daedelus](#): > > Thanks for the congratulations! Yeah, I’m still in the “new car” phase with the mount and just flying around randomly with it. You know you’re going to turn into one of those dudes who hovers over the well. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10676 "2010-04-15T19:08:35Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > _ **!!!** _ > > I’d been wondering about it ever since someone datamined the model. How much is it going for? Can’t get to even the store from work. $25 for the shiny, pretty, starry flying pony… ahem, Celestial Steed, and $10 for Lil’ XT. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10677 "2010-04-15T19:34:33Z")
Oh yeah, I am \*so \*there. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10678 "2010-04-15T19:46:14Z")
I wonder how to disguise that purchase on our bank statement. “What charge from _Bliz Ent_? Oh, that’s, uh, nothing. Online porn, I think.” ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10679 "2010-04-15T22:30:36Z")
I noticed upthread people were talking about mounts and how your rep with a faction would give you a discount or not. I thought mounts outside your default availability were only purchasable after you reached Exalted. Like, on my Alliance character, I can’t buy horsies at Theramore because they say I need to be Exalted with Stormwind. Does that change at some point? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10680 "2010-04-15T22:45:50Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > I noticed upthread people were talking about mounts and how your rep with a faction would give you a discount or not. I thought mounts outside your default availability were only purchasable after you reached Exalted. Like, on my Alliance character, I can’t buy horsies at Theramore because they say I need to be Exalted with Stormwind. Does that change at some point? I don’t think that counts for flying mounts, because there’s only one type of faction flying mount (gryphons for Alliance, windriders for Horde), rather than a different one for each race. I do wish that warlocks and paladins got special flying mounts like they do ground mounts…like a pegasus for paladins and a fell beast (like the Nazgul rode) for warlocks. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/10681 "2010-04-15T22:49:33Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > I noticed upthread people were talking about mounts and how your rep with a faction would give you a discount or not. I thought mounts outside your default availability were only purchasable after you reached Exalted. Like, on my Alliance character, I can’t buy horsies at Theramore because they say I need to be Exalted with Stormwind. The two things are unconnected. Rep discount affects all prices, including mounts. You can only buy faction-specific mounts once you’re Exalted with that faction. Because of the second fact, the first means that you’ll always see mounts of factions not your own at Exalted discount rates. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=533) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=535)