# World of Warcraft General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11002 "2010-04-27T20:52:10Z")

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I started again and rolled a NE druid on Sargeras 'cause Cataclysm sounds neat. Anyway, these random dungeons are brutal. Either I’m with a bunch of BoA folks who want to AoE everything, but I can’t throw enough AoE threat without Primal Fury; or I’m with the worst players ever, like this NE hunter who got himself one-shotted by Arugal after hitting him with distracting shot mid-fight.

The next dungeons up are RFK and Gnomer. I think I’m just going to quest until 30 and then solo those two for the only gear in them. The new druid forms look nice. I wish I ran more BGs while I was at the lol-OP runner stage (\<=19). I didn’t know they changed stuff to honor only. I could really go for some AB boots.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11003 "2010-04-27T21:04:25Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> The next dungeons up are RFK and Gnomer.

I just ran Gnomer for the first time on my main (working on the Classic Dungeonmaster achievement) and man is there a lot of trash in there! Holy crap… I can’t imagine grinding through all that shit (and the alarms??) at-level.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11004 "2010-04-27T21:13:06Z")

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**"Gnomer"**! I LOVE it! HAHAHAHAHA! Very creative! ROFL! :D:D:D

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11005 "2010-04-27T21:17:02Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> I just ran Gnomer for the first time on my main (working on the Classic Dungeonmaster achievement) and man is there a lot of trash in there! Holy crap… I can’t imagine grinding through all that shit (and the alarms??) at-level.

Back in my early WoW days when I was still Alliance (and had no idea what I was doing) I remember running Gnomer at appropriate level. I still have nightmares about it. That place is horrible. Especially those Dark Iron dwarf patrols–I haven’t been back in years so I don’t know if they’re still that bad, but back then they were higher level than almost everything else in the dungeon so they had a huge aggro range and they hit _hard_. I can’t count how many times they wiped us. And it’s a _long_ run back.

The only instance I hate worse than Gnomer is Maraudon. At least in Gnomer it was a _little_ bit hard to get lost. Try running back to your corpse in Mara.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11006 "2010-04-27T21:25:16Z")

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Hmmmmm…

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> MOTHERFUCKING **RAVEN LORD**!!! God damn \*hell \*yes. What a great way to come back to the game!
> 
> _My friend **SFG** sure has a talent for making a point, doesn’t she, y’all? 😉_
> 
> That may be my favorite quest in all of Northrend. I LOVE BABY MURLOCS.
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> _I do too, and yes, I’d love it if they made it a daily._
> 
> Time for me to roll an alt, methinks…
> 
> _Roll it in Alex (hint, hint - J/K, we’re doin’ okay!🙂_
> 
> Our little Wolkie… All growed up… :sniffle: :wipes a tear:
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> _Several folks have asked me why I’m not working my DK. I’m kinda anal in that regard. I wanna finish da **Wolk’** _ before going with another toon. Now that doesn’t mean I’m neglecting the elf or the other **Wollkie** (note spelling) who is my auction mule but whom I am also levelling. It just means my “loyalty” is to **Wolkie** , and he’s the one y’all have been helping me with, so I use what I have learned with the other toons, just not full-time.

Thanks,

Q

PS: Can somebody tell me how to quote phrases that are answers to other people’s questions? I seem to have fucked this one up rather royally. (Godammit, **SFG**! You’re such a good friend I even get the same trash-mouth as you! :))

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11007 "2010-04-27T21:40:36Z")

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Oh man, with the new RDF I’ve done Gnomer with my last two alts over and over again, at-level. Either you need someone in the group who knows their way around very well, or it’s going to be a _long_ instance.

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**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11008 "2010-04-27T21:45:46Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Interesting - it would appear that you can’t teleport out of a “phased” area. My mage just finished the Wrathgate sequence, and after collecting Bolvar’s shield she tried to teleport to SW … couldn’t do it. Flew up to the flight point at Fordragon Hold and tried again … no dice. So I flew to Dal, and teleported successfully from there, though by that point I should have just taken the portal and saved a rune, but I wanted to make sure my Teleport spell wasn’t simply bugging on me.

Oh, as an aside on Wrathgate/Battle for Undercity…

If you’re doing that as Alliance, when Varian Wrynn attacks Thrall, you probably should let him get aggro before charging in and casting Rain of Fire.

Even if you really, really think it’ll be funny.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11009 "2010-04-27T21:48:20Z")

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Oh! I thought **Jas09** had a _toon_ named “Gnomer”, my bad for misreading. I was gonna ask if his last name was “Pyle”?

I wonder if anyone can _get_ that name for a toon?

Also, I’ve been thinking about **Wolkie** and **Heather** (Sentinel Hill Inn) a lot lately, and all he’s able to do is blow her a kiss in the air. If I were to type in /kisses heather, would he lay one smack dab on her lips or would it just say he kisses her?

i think those two have the lukewarms for each other, despite his frequent absences! 😉

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11010 "2010-04-27T22:24:24Z")

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> [@Palooka](#):
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> I wish I ran more BGs while I was at the lol-OP runner stage (\<=19).

As an aside to this, the other day my main was in SW, where she got a whisper begging for gold … from a lvl 19 gnome rogue named “Twinkmaster”, who belonged to a guild called something like “Twinks R Us”. So I wondered why he needed to beg for gold. I thought most “twinks” were owned by players with higher-level toons to buy all their gear for them. 😕

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> I didn’t know they changed stuff to honor only. I could really go for some AB boots.

Should still be able to get them - you just don’t need the AV badges any more.

> [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](#):
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> Oh, as an aside on Wrathgate/Battle for Undercity…
> 
> If you’re doing that as Alliance, when Varian Wrynn attacks Thrall, you probably should let him get aggro before charging in and casting Rain of Fire.
> 
> Even if you really, really think it’ll be funny.

Heh. I’d already done the Wrathgate thing on 2 other toons, so I knew what would happen. I didn’t even engage - I just moved off to the side and waited for Jaina to show up.

Also, this mage of mine just hit 75 - 5 levels away from my 3rd lvl 80!

And speaking of Jaina … I took a good look at her custom model in the SW throne room, and my goodness! Make her a brunette and she’d look _exactly_ like this hot 19-year-old girl I work with! 😃

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11011 "2010-04-27T22:30:41Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> And speaking of Jaina … I took a good look at her custom model in the SW throne room, and my goodness! Make her a brunette and she’d look _exactly_ like this hot 19-year-old girl I work with! 😃

Jaina is hot…until she speaks! IMO she’s a candidate for worst voice acting in all of WoW. Anyone else agree?

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11012 "2010-04-27T22:43:32Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Should still be able to get them - you just don’t need the AV badges any more.

I know I can get them. I was waiting until I could run AB since I thought I needed the badges, but had I known that I didn’t need those, I could’ve gotten the honor much quicker by using travel form to cap in WSG.

And cripes, shadowmeld breaks combat now. How broken is that?

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11013 "2010-04-27T22:54:46Z")

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… I think the WoW programmers need to step in and get that roof fixed for **Heather**. I think those hammering guys have been working on it long enough now.

Probably wouldn’t hurt to spruce the place up a little too. 🙂

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11014 "2010-04-27T23:33:53Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> Jaina is hot…until she speaks! IMO she’s a candidate for worst voice acting in all of WoW. Anyone else agree?

It sounds like the same voice actress who did the dryads. And I think the dryads (as they appear in WoW), are the worst voice/appearance mismatch in the game. Since their first appearance in WC3, they’ve been presented as playful and somewhat childlike, and the voice reflects this … but the face they put on them for WoW just … doesn’t … match.

> [@Palooka](#):
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> I know I can get them. I was waiting until I could run AB since I thought I needed the badges, but had I known that I didn’t need those, I could’ve gotten the honor much quicker by using travel form to cap in WSG.

Okay, gotcha. I misread your meaning.

> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> … I think the WoW programmers need to step in and get that roof fixed for **Heather**. I think those hammering guys have been working on it long enough now.
> 
> Probably wouldn’t hurt to spruce the place up a little too. 🙂

I suspect they’re gonna get it fixed just in time for Deathwing to blow everything up again in Cataclysm.

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**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11015 "2010-04-27T23:41:42Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Interesting - it would appear that you can’t teleport out of a “phased” area. My mage just finished the Wrathgate sequence…

It’s not about being phased, it’sAlexstrasza. Watch your buff list when you’re in the area and you’ll find that “Your aggressive tendencies are soothed by the presence of the Dragon Queen.” You can’t do virtually anything around her, she locks down the area. This had a rather disastrous effect on me when I got dismounted from flying over WG (back when it did that) and figured I’d just bubble on landing to save some chute time. Alexstrasza decided I should die instead of being able to bubble 😃

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11016 "2010-04-27T23:51:22Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Oh man, with the new RDF I’ve done Gnomer with my last two alts over and over again, at-level. Either you need someone in the group who knows their way around very well, or it’s going to be a _long_ instance.

I’m planning on questing my mage from 23 to 30 or so precisely to avoid Gnomeregan.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11017 "2010-04-27T23:56:59Z")

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Godammit, those are my favorite extinct animals and now they’ve made it a quest for **Wolkie** and Jesus, we’re leaving their calves without a daddy!

I know the quest is a “bot inside a mammoth” or some such silly title, but still…

I keep thinking I’m killing Manny from “Ice Age”.☹

I know, I know: I’m taking the game too seriously, right?

And I had a choice not to take the quest and I chose the easy way out, didn’t I? Needed to get that percentage - yeah, right.

Hated to kill the orcas too. Beautiful animals and soooo graceful.

“They’ll re-spawn, Quasi!”

Yeah, I know they will but that doesn’t make us feel any less bad about it.

Why couldn’t they have made us fight vampires, zombies (just give 'em more power) or rock orgs? I can handle those. Just can’t handle killing animals who have no reason for prejudice.

And for those of you who may be wondering, your ol’ pal Quasi “role-plays” all the way!

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11018 "2010-04-28T00:03:47Z")

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… needs to visit the vault, **Mister Rik**! 🙂

Even if you don’t plan on levelling her, there might be something useful there.

(Plus, it would make me feel like I’m helpin’ my guildies (in some kinda small way!)🙂

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11019 "2010-04-28T00:09:06Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Godammit, those are my favorite extinct animals and now they’ve made it a quest for **Wolkie** and Jesus, we’re leaving their calves without a daddy!
> 
> I know the quest is a “bot inside a mammoth” or some such silly title, but still…
> 
> I keep thinking I’m killing Manny from “Ice Age”.☹

The ones over on the east end of Borean Tundra? Don’t worry about it. They’re zombie mammoths. They’re already dead. They just don’t know it.

Also, if you want to help the mammoths, go to the DEHTA camp along the north-south road from Valiance Keep to the airport. They give you quests that make you friends with the living mammoths, including rescuing the baby mammoths that are caught in traps.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11020 "2010-04-28T00:13:01Z")

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Like in Dead Mines.

We lose our way.

But in daylight, no probs. We can kick ass.

On another subject, someone (called themselves “Unknown” in the name section of the mail) sent me 1 gold with just the word “thanks” attached.

What an unexpected pleasure and I don’t even know what we did to deserve it!🙂

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11021 "2010-04-28T00:20:09Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> The ones over on the east end of Borean Tundra? Don’t worry about it. They’re zombie mammoths. They’re already dead. They just don’t know it.
> 
> Also, if you want to help the mammoths, go to the DEHTA camp along the north-south road from Valiance Keep to the airport. They give you quests that make you friends with the living mammoths, including rescuing the baby mammoths that are caught in traps.

**jayjay!**

Hey buddy! Been missing you! Did you mean it when you wrote you were getting “burned out” on WoW?

I hope not, ‘cause I sure do appreciate your (and all the others’) help!

But if the mammoths are already dead, why do they have calves with them, **jay**? Not doubting your expertise with the game, just wondering, my friend.

I will take your advice and go to the camp, thank you!

Thanks,

Q

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