# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 554
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11062 "2010-04-28T23:37:52Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Seriously, though, who in the Horde is honestly going to have a printing press and graphic designer software? The Tauren? šŸ˜ƒ Itā€™s called a wall and a can of paint. šŸ˜ƒ Iā€™ve always liked the fact that you can find random boulders in Mulgore with three fingered Tauren petroglyphs. But come Cata, weā€™ll have the goblins! Bigger explosions over gnomish ingenuity, I say. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11063 "2010-04-29T00:11:54Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > Itā€™s called a wall and a can of paint. šŸ˜ƒ Who has canā€™s of spraypaint? Sure, goblins probably have paint-grenades, but thatā€™s more ā€œsplatterā€ and less ā€œneat printed postersā€ šŸ˜ƒ Hereā€™s a not-so-random questionā€¦ I have noticed repeatedly that the Horde seems to have one extra good quest whenever Horde and Alliance have quests into the same subsection, mostly instances. Is that just me? It seems like the designers have been handing a lot of goodies, including most of the gameā€™s best racials, to the Horde. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11064 "2010-04-29T00:18:35Z")
[Goblin Name Generator.](http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=goblinnamer) My Fave? Arsemurder ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11065 "2010-04-29T00:28:42Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > **Mister Rik** , when you wear that, do you get the urge to sing that song? šŸ˜‰ Believe it or not, Iā€™d never heard that song, aside from one line sung by another kid way back in junior high school (ā€œIā€™m a lumberjack and Iā€™m okayā€¦ā€), so I went ahead and [looked it up on YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg) just now. I donā€™t think it would work as well with a female character singing it šŸ˜› > [@](#): > > (3 pieces of Twilight Cultist getup to summon a Lesser Wind Stone demon. And each use consumes a random piece of getupā€¦ [and so on] I wondered why that stuff dropped so much! > [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > First, I just wanna brag that I am the first in BDL to crack 5k in Achievement points w00t! > [@](#): > > **Rik** , Iā€™ve been using [these lvl 245 PvP boots](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=40884). Easy to buy with Triumph badges (or 34100 honor points?) rather than frost. Yeah, you give up a semi-useful(less) (ArmPen) stat for useless resilience, but the level boost on Strength, Stam, Crit and 1 yellow gem slot (just go +20 Strength) make it a good value until you go for the high end boots. May not be the best choice you have, but the easiest way to boost some of your main stats. I might go that route. I did wear the Furious Gladiatorā€™s DPS pants for a while when I first started running heroics, simply because Iā€™d been wearing those Wyrmrest rep pants _forever_, and they were tank pants, and so I figured PvP DPS pants were better than PvE tank pants for my purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11066 "2010-04-29T00:30:25Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > [Goblin Name Generator.](http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=goblinnamer) My Fave? > > Arsemurder Rab Dreadarse ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11067 "2010-04-29T00:49:46Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I might go that route. I did wear the Furious Gladiatorā€™s DPS pants for a while when I first started running heroics, simply because Iā€™d been wearing those Wyrmrest rep pants _forever_, and they were tank pants, and so I figured PvP DPS pants were better than PvE tank pants for my purposes. Wait, what? What tank pants? The only rep pants you can get from the Wyrmrest Accord are the Legplates of Bloody Reprisal, and those are for dps. Granted ArP might not be a great dps stat for Paladins, but they are not tank pants. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11068 "2010-04-29T01:05:54Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Wait, what? What tank pants? The only rep pants you can get from the Wyrmrest Accord are the Legplates of Bloody Reprisal, and those are for dps. Granted ArP might not be a great dps stat for Paladins, but they are not tank pants. :smack: You are correct. I was remembering wrong. In reality, I wore the [Furious Gladiatorā€™s Scaled Legplates](http://www.wowhead.com/item=40849) to replace the [Legplates of Bloody Reprisal](http://www.wowhead.com/item=44205) because even being PvP pants, the jump from iLvl 200 to iLvl 232 was a huge upgrade and I wasnā€™t finding any other options outside of Heroics, other than 15,000g crafted iLvl 245 pants. I guess I was thinking ā€œtank pantsā€ because **SFG** said (many, many pages back) that she wore those pants for a long time on her tank. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11069 "2010-04-29T11:28:29Z")
Okay, so I took da **Wolk** over to see Heather. (Guess he needed some horny-relief or something:rolleyes:)). But when we left and took a look at where we could fly, up in the right-hand corner was ā€œSunreach Harborā€. Huh? Whereā€™d that one come from, and why do I have a flight path there, yā€™all? So we flew there, me and da **Wolk** and we found ourselves a couple of quests, but ya know what??? The _easiest_ one had us travelling back to Hellfire Pensinula on some insect-lookinā€™ thing and _it took us all of 15 minutes to get there, Godammit!_ So now I have to see this lady in HP when I didnā€™t even know that that ā€œIsle of Quel Danasā€ quest even existed? How in der Werld ficked up is _that_, Mensch? šŸ˜‰ Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11070 "2010-04-29T11:44:40Z")
Sorry! **Heatherā€™s** name needed bolding and I forgot. **Heather** There. All fixed. Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11071 "2010-04-29T14:04:20Z")
AHAHAHA! **Who wants to see me die?** 1.) Go to the WoW Insider article [WoW Rookie: 10 Ways to Meet Other New Players](http://www.wow.com/2010/04/29/wow-rookie-10-ways-to-meet-other-new-players/). 2.) Scroll to #8, ā€œRecruit a friend.ā€ 3.) Watch the video. Yes, thatā€™s my pocket healer, taking me for a ride on his new rocketā€¦ with a not-so-happy ending. :eek: > [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > [BB King!](http://www.wowwiki.com/BB_King_%28Horde%29) Grats! I remember that being a royal pain for Alliance folks, tooā€“and I forgot about the Troll faction leader, too. šŸ˜ƒ > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > I have noticed repeatedly that the Horde seems to have one extra good quest whenever Horde and Alliance have quests into the same subsection, mostly instances. Is that just me? It seems like the designers have been handing a lot of goodies, including most of the gameā€™s best racials, to the Horde. It goes back and forth. Some things are skewed more towards Alliance, some more towards Horde. Theyā€™ve gotten more even over time. Personally, I think that if anything, Horde has a teensy bit more benefits than Alliance (at least for the characters Iā€™ve played), but that could be my own bias showing. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I guess I was thinking ā€œtank pantsā€ because **SFG** said (many, many pages back) that she wore those pants for a long time on her tank. Actually, it was the blue Wyrmrest rep _chest_. Which I wore for about five years before finally getting my T7 chest. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > So now I have to see this lady in HP when I didnā€™t even know that that ā€œIsle of Quel Danasā€ quest even existed? QD is an old quest hub from late TBC. No real need for you to go there now. (Itā€™s also the location of the five-man instance Magisterā€™s Terrance and the Sunwell raid.) ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11072 "2010-04-29T14:28:54Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > First, I just wanna brag that I am the first in BDL to crack 5k in Achievement points which I did in styleā€¦[BB King!](http://www.wowwiki.com/BB_King_%28Horde%29) Grats on the achievement. Now I feel like I need to go back and finish my exploring in Azeroth to catch up to youā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![2sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e47774/32.png) [@2sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2sense)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11073 "2010-04-29T14:43:46Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So hereā€™s my question: Are the set bonuses from putting together the whole iLvl 251 T10 set going to be better, overall, than if I were to equip those three non-tier 264 pieces to go with my 264 shoulders? Could be. Blizzard tried to itemize so that it would be a real choice between getting the tier gear or the offset pieces. I really like the feral druid 4T10 bonus. Itā€™s pretty revolutionary IMO. So Iā€™m getting the set. But you have to give up stats to do so. The trick is to figure out which nontier piece gives you the best option. For me I had the Bladeborn Leggings crafted and am gonna wear those along with the set. ---
**Author:** ![hdc\_bst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9f8e36/32.png) [@hdc\_bst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hdc_bst)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11074 "2010-04-29T15:27:13Z")
Low-light of last night: with my hunter (BDL: Makig) coming in #4 on damage done in Razorfen Kraul, after the Warrior tank. Sigh. Iā€™m pretty certain that I was number two on healing done thanks to mend pet, but nobody brought that up :). ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11075 "2010-04-29T15:43:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Yes, thatā€™s my pocket healer, taking me for a ride on his new rocketā€¦ with a not-so-happy ending. :eek: Ha! šŸ˜ƒ Anyone want to take bets on how long itā€™ll be before they hotfix that so the passenger gets a parachute? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11076 "2010-04-29T15:49:33Z")
> [@hdc\_bst](#): > > Low-light of last night: with my hunter (BDL: Makig) coming in #4 on damage done in Razorfen Kraul, after the Warrior tank. Sigh. Iā€™m pretty certain that I was number two on healing done thanks to mend pet, but nobody brought that up :). Eh. Tanks end up pretty high on the DPS board a lot in the lower levels. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11077 "2010-04-29T15:52:15Z")
Thatā€™s right, **hdc**. Iā€™ve mostly seen it with pally tanks, but even warrior/druid tanks can put out competitive dps at that level. Were you using a Ferocity pet? Andā€¦ thatā€™s just about the sum total of my Hunter advice. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11078 "2010-04-29T20:08:08Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > AHAHAHA! **Who wants to see me die?** > > 1.) Go to the WoW Insider article [WoW Rookie: 10 Ways to Meet Other New Players](http://www.wow.com/2010/04/29/wow-rookie-10-ways-to-meet-other-new-players/). > > 2.) Scroll to #8, ā€œRecruit a friend.ā€ > > 3.) Watch the video. > > Yes, thatā€™s my pocket healer, taking me for a ride on his new rocketā€¦ with a not-so-happy ending. :eek: Bahaa! So thatā€™s how your guildies make their decisions on \! Genius! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11079 "2010-04-29T21:19:40Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > But when we left and took a look at where we could fly, up in the right-hand corner was ā€œSunreach Harborā€. > > Huh? > > Whereā€™d that one come from, and why do I have a flight path there, yā€™all? I noticed that myself, recently. My main is the only one of my toons to have even set foot on that island up there, yet suddenly all my toons have a flight path straight to it - even my lowest-level toons. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11080 "2010-04-29T22:41:16Z")
> [@hdc\_bst](#): > > Low-light of last night: with my hunter (BDL: Makig) coming in #4 on damage done in Razorfen Kraul, after the Warrior tank. Sigh. Iā€™m pretty certain that I was number two on healing done thanks to mend pet, but nobody brought that up :). You shouldnā€™t be needing to Mend Pet. Are you turning Growl off? If you are and are still getting aggro, then you need to wait a bit more so you donā€™t take pet-aggro. I also notice you have spread out your talents. I prefer and I think itā€™s pretty standard to stick to one spec. Always get the highest tier talent available. So put 5 in tier 1 and then get a tier 2. I liked leveling Beast Mastery, but Iā€™ve heard good things about Survival too. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11081 "2010-04-29T23:05:46Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > You shouldnā€™t be needing to Mend Pet. Are you turning Growl off? If you are and are still getting aggro, then you need to wait a bit more so you donā€™t take pet-aggro. I also notice you have spread out your talents. I prefer and I think itā€™s pretty standard to stick to one spec. Always get the highest tier talent available. So put 5 in tier 1 and then get a tier 2. > I liked leveling Beast Mastery, but Iā€™ve heard good things about Survival too. I disagree with this, I do have to hit Mend Pet on occasion ā€“ not all healers will drop a heal on my pet since theyā€™re at the very end of the heal priority list if at all. If the pet still drops faster than the mends are ticking, Iā€™ll call them back so they get a breather before sending them back in. Definitely make sure that Growl is off, and turn off Thunderclap (iirc all tenacity pets now have Tclap) as well ā€“ both will pull aggro off the tank. IMO, Iā€™d drop the Glyph of Mending for Glyph of the Hawk as this will increase your dps. The minor Mend Pet is excellent to have though, cuts down on the FEED ME NAO faces. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=553) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=555)