# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 572
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11422 "2010-05-17T00:55:16Z")
Booya! While doing some heavy Glacial Salmon fishing this morning, I pulled up a [Sea Turtle](http://www.wowhead.com/item=46109)! It’s no Time-Lost Protodrake, but it’ll do. 😃 > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > What sadists at Blizzard thought that [extreme frustration and getting completely lost] = [fun]? I try to cut them some slack since it’s been several years since they designed the classic zones and they’ve learned a lot about what works and what doesn’t, but yeah, it’s pretty bad. All I can suggest is stop trying to pay attention to the minimap, which doesn’t tell you height. It just mushes all the levels together. You need to focus more on your surroundings and explore a little more carefully. It can be done if you’re attentive; people always bitch about the barrow dens, and those maps are awful too, but keeping track mentally pays far more dividends. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11423 "2010-05-17T02:22:27Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > GAAAAAAAAAH! This is why I hate the “old world” instances so much! Working on Loremaster of Kalimdor, I’m doing that quest for the Centaur Pariah where I have to collect gems from those various centaur khans in Maraudon. I’ve collected all the gems. Now I’ve spent the last hour running around in the “entrance” area in front of the purple instance entrance. Literally “around”. Every path just leads me around and around and around and I keep winding up back at the instance portal. I cannot find my way back to the front door of the place. There’s one spot on the map that appears to lead to the exit, as it appears on the minimap, but just as I get to that point … the connection disappears on the minimap. The world map is no good because it just shows me as being in Desolace. Atlas is no help because it makes it appear that there’s a connection there where there actually is no connection. > > What sadists at Blizzard thought that [extreme frustration and getting completely lost] = [fun]? I hate to throw cold water on this, but are you sure that quest counts toward Loremaster? Most dungeon quests don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11424 "2010-05-17T03:03:02Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I hate to throw cold water on this, but are you sure that quest counts toward Loremaster? Most dungeon quests don’t. Yah, I checked WowHead and somebody said it counts. Most of the things I needed to collect were actually outside the instance. But with only 113 quests to go for Kalimdor, I’m checking WowHead on most of the quests I find to make sure they count . ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11425 "2010-05-17T03:17:10Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Booya! While doing some heavy Glacial Salmon fishing this morning, I pulled up a [Sea Turtle](http://www.wowhead.com/item=46109)! It’s no Time-Lost Protodrake, but it’ll do. 😃 /cheer! The turtle sure is fun, and handy for those underwater adventures. Sea Turtle + underwater breathing from the Kalu’ak Fishing Pole, and you never need to come up 😃 > [@](#): > > It can be done if you’re attentive; people always bitch about the barrow dens, and those maps are awful too, but keeping track mentally pays far more dividends. I was trying to kill everything so I would leave a trail of dead bodies to show me the routes I’d already tried, but they respawned too quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11426 "2010-05-17T03:23:11Z")
WoooooHoooo! At long last! Finally! [Well Read](http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=1244)! Last two books I needed were in the Westfall Inn and the top of the Tower of Azora in Elwynn. Who knew? ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11427 "2010-05-17T04:01:11Z")
Someone remind me to visit the First Aid trainer more often. I went from Mageweave -\> Heavy Mageweave -\> Runecloth in one visit. I mean, I had to buy one ability, make the bandages, then talk to the trainer again. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11428 "2010-05-17T07:20:18Z")
… it occurs to me me that even though it is directed at someone in a mythical land, it **does** project “jerk-ism” and name calling, and that is just wrong for the forum and for what I agreed to, so I apologize to the person to whom my remarks were directed and just ask that you not come after\*\* Heather\*\* again, please, and if you have the urge to do so, please remember that **Wolkie** is on another continent and his inn is at VK. My apologies once again, and if you prefer, (instead of cowardly killing **Wolkie’s** SO) we can settle this with a duel at a place and time of your choosing. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11429 "2010-05-17T12:45:39Z")
What are the tanking tactics for the Dragon boss in Nexus? Wiped 3 times on that one yesterday. Am i supposed to be kiting the damn thing around whilst keeping it’s head away from the healer? How am I supposed to maintain aggro whilst kiting, wouldn’t the DPS out threat me then? ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11430 "2010-05-17T13:07:42Z")
Grats to all and good work **Quasi** keep fighting the good fight for the Light even if you’re only doing it for your own sexual gratification…🙂 I have my first title! I am officially Sagan of Stormwind and my little squire makes me very happy. Also looks like I have more frogs to kiss even though I assumed there was no way I would do that again but to buy anything decent with Crusader Seals you need the title with all the alliance cities (which I am sure isn’t news to you all but it was to me). On that, what is the quickest way to up my rep, cloth hand ins or doing low level quests in the starter zones? Anyone done this recently? I am struggling healing the Black Knight in ToC, so much AoE damage added to the adds which want to eat my face makes this Holy Pally fail quite a bit. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11431 "2010-05-17T13:10:28Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > What are the tanking tactics for the Dragon boss in Nexus? Wiped 3 times on that one yesterday. > > Am i supposed to be kiting the damn thing around whilst keeping it’s head away from the healer? How am I supposed to maintain aggro whilst kiting, wouldn’t the DPS out threat me then? Stand still but jump a lot. The Dragon puts a debuff on you called Intense Cold which will stack quite quickly but you remove it if you jump or move. The rest of the team should not be behind the dragon but to the side and they should move or jump too. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11432 "2010-05-17T13:24:24Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Stand still but jump a lot. > > The Dragon puts a debuff on you called Intense Cold which will stack quite quickly but you remove it if you jump or move. The rest of the team should not be behind the dragon but to the side and they should move or jump too. OK, now I’m starting to think wipe 3 wasn’t down to me then. I was jumping like crazy, had the dragon pointed away from the healer and was taunting, shield bashing etc to keep at the top of Omen. I still died and then everyone wiped. That would be a healer issue no? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11433 "2010-05-17T13:43:59Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Booya! While doing some heavy Glacial Salmon fishing this morning, I pulled up a [Sea Turtle](http://www.wowhead.com/item=46109)! Awesome! I’m insanely jealous, that mount is cool. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > WoooooHoooo! At long last! Finally! [Well Read](http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=1244)! Very nice! > [@martu](#): > > I have my first title! I am officially Sagan of Stormwind and my little squire makes me very happy. Grats! > [@](#): > > I am struggling healing the Black Knight in ToC, so much AoE damage added to the adds which want to eat my face makes this Holy Pally fail quite a bit. Yeah, I’ve been working on my holy pally (lvl 63 now) and AoE damage makes me weep. Beacon of Light on the tank is essential, then I usually end up Flash of Light-ing everyone else like crazy (starting with me) and crossing my fingers that I can keep up. > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > OK, now I’m starting to think wipe 3 wasn’t down to me then. I was jumping like crazy, had the dragon pointed away from the healer and was taunting, shield bashing etc to keep at the top of Omen. I still died and then everyone wiped. That would be a healer issue no? If you were holding threat, that’s all your group can ask of you. It’s a tough fight to heal at level because you have to keep jumping around, so spells with long cast times are problematic. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11434 "2010-05-17T13:49:45Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > What are the tanking tactics for the Dragon boss in Nexus? Wiped 3 times on that one yesterday. > > Am i supposed to be kiting the damn thing around whilst keeping it’s head away from the healer? How am I supposed to maintain aggro whilst kiting, wouldn’t the DPS out threat me then? > [@martu](#): > > Stand still but jump a lot. > > The Dragon puts a debuff on you called Intense Cold which will stack quite quickly but you remove it if you jump or move. The rest of the team should not be behind the dragon but to the side and they should move or jump too. > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > OK, now I’m starting to think wipe 3 wasn’t down to me then. I was jumping like crazy, had the dragon pointed away from the healer and was taunting, shield bashing etc to keep at the top of Omen. I still died and then everyone wiped. That would be a healer issue no? Healer and probably dps as well - as in the dps (or some of them) were probably not jumping/moving and thus piling up big stacks of damage, and the healer was letting him/herself get distracted by them instead of focusing on the tank. Ideally the healer shouldn’t get distracted, but there you go. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11435 "2010-05-17T14:00:31Z")
Oh, and I was excited on Friday to get into an ICC25 pug that seemed really strong. We one-shotted Marrowgar and Gunship easily and 2-shotted Deathwhisper. It looked like we were in good shape, but unfortunately we wiped about four times on Saurfang before people had to leave. The first few wipes were caused by some of our melee (mainly the pallies and a DK) being unable to refrain from using AoE up on the platform. But other dps had trouble with the adds, as well. Naturally it was not the fault of the healers 🙂 It was a real encouraging run for me anyway, because I topped the healing meters on every fight except Saurfang (even beating out the two pallies). So at least I felt good about the effort. I have a question about loot rules. I know different groups will do it differently, but this group I ran with on Friday allowed one main-spec roll per wing of the raid, with Primordial Saronite counting as a main-spec roll. At the beginning I suggested rolling for all the Primordial Saronite at the end of each wing for people who didn’t get loot, but that suggestion was ignored. I think that makes more sense though; that way everyone has a chance to roll on something if nothing drops for them gear-wise. The way we did it, only 1-2 people rolled on the Saronite for the first bosses because no one wanted to waste their roll in case good gear dropped later; so you had people getting Saronite who missed out on good gear later and people who never had anything good drop missing out on the Saronite rolls. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11436 "2010-05-17T14:23:23Z")
Sick to death of intellect Plate. I think I have only managed to upgrade my shield and weapon since hitting Northrend. No I tell a lie, I just upgraded my feet after a Wintergarde quest. Have gotten bugger all of use from instance drops. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11437 "2010-05-17T15:29:59Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > Sick to death of intellect Plate. I think I have only managed to upgrade my shield and weapon since hitting Northrend. No I tell a lie, I just upgraded my feet after a Wintergarde quest. Have gotten bugger all of use from instance drops. As others have pointed out regarding The Nexus if you held aggro you did your job so not your fault. Do you have the Blacksmithing cobalt set? I had that at 70 and didn’t bother too much with quest rewards in early Northrend. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11438 "2010-05-17T15:38:50Z")
> [@martu](#): > > As others have pointed out regarding The Nexus if you held aggro you did your job so not your fault. > > Do you have the Blacksmithing cobalt set? I had that at 70 and didn’t bother too much with quest rewards in early Northrend. I just have the best of whatvever i have picked up from questing or dropped in dungeons. My Gs is 1400 some. On the plus side I haven’t spent much whilst levelling and have almost 4k saved. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11439 "2010-05-17T16:17:42Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > I just have the best of whatvever i have picked up from questing or dropped in dungeons. My Gs is 1400 some. On the plus side I haven’t spent much whilst levelling and have almost 4k saved. If you’re not dying no problem really though if you do want to see what loot you could pick up try this site: [http://www.wow-loot.com/paladin.htm](http://www.wow-loot.com/paladin.htm). The BS sets should be pretty cheap on the AH, after using the cobalt set I upgraded to the [Tempered Saronite set](http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=tempered+saronite) from level 74 which is good enough for the first couple of heroics just about. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11440 "2010-05-17T17:09:43Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > A question for my fellow BDL’ers…what are the criteria for being able to withdraw from the Guild Bank? I can see all the tabs, but they’re all deposit only. > > There’s nothing in particular that I need at this point; just wondering what the rules are… The level 0s ( **Proditio** ) and 1s ( **Skammer** and **Flightless Bird** ) should be able to promote you to about level 3 where you can draw up to 5g daily and up to 10 items per tab daily. Just make sure you’re not on a shared computer or if you share your account info with anyone. We’ve been getting hit on 2 or 3 occasions the last couple of months. Not totally detrimental, but annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/11441 "2010-05-17T17:12:25Z")
Oh, thanks for that resonse Yeti; I forgot to answer **Suburban Plankton** when I saw that question earlier. **SP** , what is your character name? I’ll try to remember to promote you tonight. If I forget just say something in guild chat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=571) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=573)