# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1281 "2009-05-22T13:12:39Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > The AHs in your faction’s capitals are all linked so it doesn’t matter which one you go to. > [Bartender](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bartender4.aspx) will let you do just about anything you want(and probably some stuff you don’t know you want yet :)) to your action bars. Thanks Bartender looks perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1282 "2009-05-22T15:04:52Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > This shadow priest - who brags about how many lvl 80s he has and how he used to be in an uber-guild - says “um, I don’t have Cold Weather Flying”. How does anyone NOT have Cold Weather Flying? It’s only 1k. You practically have to \*try \*not to make crap-tons of gold at 80. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1283 "2009-05-22T15:10:18Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Oh and another thing (sorry for all the questions!) I play on a 17" laptop so screen real estate is at a premium, any suggested mods or anything that will free up some space but keep all the buttons for me and my minion (I use two rows for me plus the pet bar)? One example I keep clicking on the chat window in fights by mistake. I believe there are also settings for the chat window that will make it “click-through” so accidentally clicking it won’t do anything. I use CT\_Viewport to shrink the screen and put my chat window (modded using Chatter) and my action bars (modded by Bartender) and my mini-map (modded by SimpleMiniMap (I think))) into the black area on the bottom. Then the whole “world” window is clear other than unit frames and tooltips (although it is slightly smaller than before). Oh, and I put a Fubar bar on the top with links to bags, ammo, guild info, XP (while levelling), etc… [QUOTE=Shot From Guns] How does anyone NOT have Cold Weather Flying? It’s only 1k. You practically have to try not to make crap-tons of gold at 80. [/QUOTE] I’ve seen a few. If you have a really expensive main and a casual alt I could see how it could happen… but yeah, even getting epic flying at 80 only took a few weeks. You do have to work a _little_ bit for it (either dailies, or gathering, or something) - the gold doesn’t just appear. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1284 "2009-05-22T15:25:17Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Thanks for the auction advice too, I will download auctioneer for my bank alt. This may be a very dumb question - do all the Auction houses show the same items? Last night I went from Undercity to Origmarr (sp?) to train staves and I am pretty sure the AH items in both cities were the same. There are 3 Auction houses: Horde, Alliance, and Blackwater. Horde auction house is in each of the Horde capitals, and the Alliance auction house is in each of the alliance capitals. These are only accessible to their respective factions. These AHs charge the seller 5% on the final price, and a deposit of 15% of the vendor-value per 12 hours of listing. The Blackwater auction house is run by the goblins and can be found in Everlook, Gagetzan, and Booty Bay. Area 52 and Ratchet have goblin banks but no auctioneers. This AH is accessible to both factions, so is a great place to trade faction-specific pets and recipes, and the Green Hills of Stranglethorn, but usually gets little business otherwise. The goblins charge the seller 15% of the final price, and deposits are 75% of the vendor-value per 12 hours. The dark days of each city having its own AH are long over. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1285 "2009-05-22T15:30:39Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > The dark days of each city having its own AH are long over. Each faction city never had its own separate AH, did it? It used to be there was only one AH in Ironforge and one in Orgrimmar, and the rejoicing was most loud when they finally set up one in every capital. But they were always linked, even then. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1286 "2009-05-22T15:37:31Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > I’ve seen a few. If you have a really expensive main and a casual alt I could see how it could happen… but yeah, even getting epic flying at 80 only took a few weeks. You do have to work a _little_ bit for it (either dailies, or gathering, or something) - the gold doesn’t just appear. I have an expensive main (in that my repair costs are very high, I raid, and I have some expensive hobbies like pet collecting), no money-farming alt, and I’ve \*never \*had a problem with money. I had my epic flyer within a week of hitting 70 back in BC, and that’s the only major purchase I had to wait on. Everything else I got as soon as it was available without having to borrow any cash. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1287 "2009-05-22T15:38:44Z")
Interresting ‘Hey, they prepared for this!’ moment yesterday I thought I’d share. My awsome gnomey engineer is doing the various daily jousting quests. Because I’m a weirdo like that, I have my bags full of toys, apple juice, bunny ears, and other ‘silly’ things. When I say packed, I mean -packed-. No inventory space. Didn’t realize this until I’d finished my jousts and checked my inventory. No marks from the jousting, cos there was nowhere to put them. Seeing as the jousts are insanely boring and have one-hour timers, I was trully miffed. A minute later… A letter in the mail! From ‘Master Enchanter’ such-and-such. My marks! The enchanter says he found them ‘floating in the aether’, and that I should be more careful in the future. I was highly amused (and relieved) to say the least! One step closer to my mechanopeep! ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1288 "2009-05-22T15:40:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Each faction city never had its own separate AH, did it? It used to be there was only one AH in Ironforge and one in Orgrimmar, and the rejoicing was most loud when they finally set up one in every capital. But they were always linked, even then. I wasn’t around then, I just hear about the dark times. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1289 "2009-05-22T15:43:35Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > I always do this too and it annoys me to no end when someone refuses to group when it’s obvious we’re both after the same goal. > > One time I was questing in the Wetlands and I was on the final dinosaur killing quest in the archeology dig. I was working my way up the slope to the final, unique dinosaur when a night elf rogue ran past me. I offered to group with him, which he declined. He then charged forward and engaged the final dinosaur AND another one that he hadn’t noticed. So I just sat down and watched him die a gruesome death. Then, when the mobs were back in position, I killed them one at a time and finished the quest. By that point the elf had respawned and demanded to know why I hadn’t helped him when he got in trouble! 😛 Both your story and Mister Rik’s make me laugh because the common factor is clear here: Nelf Rogues are jerks. (or maybe just really anti-social.) Your actions warm my heart, but then…I may have a slight hatred for them after all the times they have stalked my priest in battle grounds (forsaking all battle ground objectives the nelf rogue is drawn to me from across the map… ). I’m honey to them! ---
**Author:** ![Kingspades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Kingspades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kingspades)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1290 "2009-05-22T16:11:49Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I was in a group last night with someone who had the opposite bug: her PvP flag wouldn’t go off, it did go off by itself while we were in an instance, came back on as soon as we left. At least our realm is RP-PvE but still; plus, most people see someone with a PvP flag in the middle of nowhere and think that someone keeps his brain in the underwear file. That happened to me a little while back; turns out I had one of the Grizzly Hills pvp quests in my quest log. As long as you have it, you can’t deflag. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1291 "2009-05-22T16:14:15Z")
Thanks everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1292 "2009-05-22T18:23:34Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > How does anyone NOT have Cold Weather Flying? It’s only 1k. You practically have to \*try \*not to make crap-tons of gold at 80. I know! I’m not that insane of a player or anything (shush), but I managed to grind out fast-flight and Cold Weather Flying for 3 level 80 characters now, with all of them getting CWF right after hitting 77. My guild is pretty casual but I’ve never seen anyone get to Naxx and not be able to fly there - they might not have the fast flying but they got the cold weather form at least. My response to him was “… how can you STAND not being able to fly?!” I think every time he brags about his uber-chars, I’m going to reply with “At least I have Cold Weather Flying.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1293 "2009-05-22T21:32:22Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > Both your story and Mister Rik’s make me laugh because the common factor is clear here: Nelf Rogues are jerks. (or maybe just really anti-social.) Of course, I’ve been that “group invite decliner” myself, so I have some sympathy. My excuse for declining invitations is that until fairly recently I didn’t realize that many of them may have been “we’re doing the same quest” situations. I always figured it was just somebody who wanted someone to run around with. My very first “hey we’re on the same quest let’s group” only happened a couple weeks ago, in Northrend. I was on a quest to kill a big elite somethingorother (a magnataur in Dragonblight - the first named one you’re sent out to kill after finding a “This item begins a quest” item on another named magnataur and immediately preceding the quest where you’re sent out to kill three different named elite magnataurs), and when I finally tracked the beastie down I found it was already in combat with a human priest a couple levels lower than me (and the priest wasn’t faring well). So I immediately extended a group invitation and she immediately accepted it. Together we made short work of the monster, she thanked me, and then we ungrouped and went our separate ways. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I know! I’m not that insane of a player or anything (shush), but I managed to grind out fast-flight and Cold Weather Flying for 3 level 80 characters now, with all of them getting CWF right after hitting 77. My guild is pretty casual but I’ve never seen anyone get to Naxx and not be able to fly there - they might not have the fast flying but they got the cold weather form at least. My pally is three and a half bars away from level 77! I’ll be able to easily afford CWF, but fast flight is a ways off. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1294 "2009-05-22T21:42:17Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Thanks Bartender looks perfect. Bartender had me hearing choirs of angels when I installed it. 😃 If you want to make it look prettier, I also recommend ButtonFacade which plays nicely with Bartender and which will skin your buttons. It took some initial configuration for each toon (hunter/pally/priest), and I’m still not sure I have custom conditionals working correctly for fading in/out bars, but I’m still very thrilled with it and with the returned screen real estate. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1295 "2009-05-23T00:42:34Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > My pally is three and a half bars away from level 77! I’ll be able to easily afford CWF, but fast flight is a ways off. My characters never had fast flight back at level 70 cap BC days. I only got it for them by 79 or 80 - thank you, money-dispensing dailies. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1296 "2009-05-23T02:07:34Z")
I fell into Stormwind Harbor, died, and now I cannot get rezzed because even though I climb out, I’m STIIL dead and the game is making me get into the water again and find my corpse, but even though I get within centimeters of it, it says I have to “enter this instance” and I don’t know WITF that shit means??? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1297 "2009-05-23T02:49:57Z")
w00t! Level 77! Cold Weather Flying! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1298 "2009-05-23T02:59:36Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I fell into Stormwind Harbor, died, and now I cannot get rezzed because even though I climb out, I’m STIIL dead and the game is making me get into the water again and find my corpse, but even though I get within centimeters of it, it says I have to “enter this instance” and I don’t know WITF that shit means??? > > Thanks > > Q That sounds like a bug. You might want to hit the red question mark in your menu bar and put in a ticket to a GM. I doubt (knowing your level) that you weren’t in the only instance near that (the Stockades), so the “You must enter this instance to return to your body” thing is just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1299 "2009-05-23T03:04:49Z")
And also solved my drowning"instance problem". (Just got outta the water and ran back to Goldshire, and found me one o ’ them “Wihisperin’ Healin’ Babes!” Also leveled up to 19, and I’m being invited to party up with some other top players! Still not much help to them, but we did a run on the Stockade today, and we cleaned up, Y’all! Right now, my quest is to protect the Defias traitor as he leads me to Van Cleef’s hidey-hole, but that is an “elite” quest, and I can’t handle protecting HIM and being double teamed at the same time, so I’m asking for help every chance I get. "Because a mind is a tubble thang! " “And we must stop it, 'fo it kills somebody!” 😃 Anybody remember the stand-up comiic who did that routine? “Dis is mah CUP!”😃 Ah, God! Everytime I look at ol “Wolkie” with his “shoulda-mah-pads” I crack myself up! I love this game, KIDDOS! Bill ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/1300 "2009-05-23T03:09:21Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > That sounds like a bug. You might want to hit the red question mark in your menu bar and put in a ticket to a GM. I doubt (knowing your level) that you weren’t in the only instance near that (the Stockades), so the “You must enter this instance to return to your body” thing is just wrong. Thanks, **jay**. I think I may have moved into “Instances” when I partied up witj a couple of 59’ers who went into The Dead Mines. Anyway, problem solved, and, I also forgot to mention I wound up on Duskwood this afternoon and killed me three rabid and starving wolves (Level 20) and one spider (also a 20). Also I now have Merle Haggard’s sword, and that thing is doing some serious Da-mahge! _S_ Bill [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=66)