# World of Warcraft questions

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 18, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802 "2008-12-18T20:40:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/321 "2009-01-12T04:35:30Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> I haven’t tried that, but then I haven’t managed to save up enough gold to afford much of anything there either.

Gathering professions are your friends! Take skinning + mining or herbalism and start selling what you collect on the AH. You’ll be rolling in gold before you know it.

Crafting is a big money sink. The only recipes that you can turn a profit on are high-level rare drops. When you’re low level you don’t have access to those recipes, so you’re better off doing gathering exclusively. Who’s buying your materials you might ask? High-level characters who don’t want to waste time in newbie areas harvesting copper and light leather. Or other low level characters who haven’t been told what I’m telling you right now … . 😉

I rolled a new gnome mage last week on Moon Guard. She’s level 15 now and has about 10 gold in the bank, just from selling copper bars in the AH. YMMV depending on the economy of your server, but you’ll definitely make enough to buy yourself decent gear.

You’ll want to start accumulating gold not just so you can get better gear, but also because at level 30 you’ll need it to buy your mount!

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**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/322 "2009-01-12T04:47:24Z")

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> [@Pochacco](#):
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> Gathering professions are your friends! Take skinning + mining or herbalism and start selling what you collect on the AH. You’ll be rolling in gold before you know it.
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> Crafting is a big money sink. The only recipes that you can turn a profit on are high-level rare drops. When you’re low level you don’t have access to those recipes, so you’re better off doing gathering exclusively. Who’s buying your materials you might ask? High-level characters who don’t want to waste time in newbie areas harvesting copper and light leather. Or other low level characters who haven’t been told what I’m telling you right now … . 😉
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> I rolled a new gnome mage last week on Moon Guard. She’s level 15 now and has about 10 gold in the bank, just from selling copper bars in the AH. YMMV depending on the economy of your server, but you’ll definitely make enough to buy yourself decent gear.
> 
> You’ll want to start accumulating gold not just so you can get better gear, but also because at level 30 you’ll need it to buy your mount!

Pochacco is right. At least when I played over 1.5 years ago, every single guide/knowledgeable person said to take two gathering professions when one is leveling, then switch one for a crafting profession at maximum level, if desired.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/323 "2009-01-12T08:47:13Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> That’s a really good question. I’m pretty sure the answer is “no”. There are also a handful of quests that it just doesn’t work for (ones where you have to go to some intermediate destination and it just tries to send you to the end, for example).

I did discover that, on the map, I can right-click on the quest icons and set 5 levels of priorities from “lowest” to “highest”, or even tell it to “ignore” a particular quest. The “ignore” option is useful when I get handed a quest that’s way too high level for me (like when the hunter trainer in TB handed me the Frostmaw quest (lvl 37) when I was still only lvl 29 or so). I can concentrate on more appropriate quests without "Go this way for quest “Frostmaw” flashing at me all the time.

> [@](#):
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> Today I tried out Carbonite and I’m liking it quite a bit - it lets you control which quests to track better than QH does. I can’t really tell if it helps with resource usage or not.

I’ll take a look at that 🙂

> [@Pochacco](#):
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> Gathering professions are your friends! Take skinning + mining or herbalism and start selling what you collect on the AH. You’ll be rolling in gold before you know it.

I really enjoy skinning - you can gather almost limitless resources! Anywhere! My hunter has Skinning/Leatherworking, my warrior has Mining/Blacksmithing, and my druid has Herbalism/Cooking. My paladin has the (currently-unfortunate combo of Blacksmithing/Enchanting. But she was one of the first characters I made and I didn’t know any better. I’ve got her Enchanting up, but her Blacksmithing is languishing without materials. Where do I go to ditch a profession? I haven’t seen that option, though I know it’s there somewhere.

On another note, my druid finally finished Trial of the Sea Lion tonight! And hit lvl 20, completed 100 quests, and successfully acquired a Westfall Chicken pet 🙂

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/324 "2009-01-12T08:52:01Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Aaaaaaaand we’ll call that experiment a failure. Took the chicken to Stanglethorn with me, and while it attacked enthusiastically and doggedly enough, it just didn’t generate enough threat to keep the lvl 36 raptors attention off _me_. So back to the cat.

Make sure to have growl on and cower off - I have no idea how birds manage to growl but apparently they do. Some skills are currently bugged (they’re working on it) and switch themselves on or off when you recall the pet.  
To ditch a profession, open your skills interface. Droppable professions have a little “forbidden” symbol, click there to drop them. But don’t be so sure that having two “craft” professions is unacceptable, you just need another char to send the main mats to that one or to use the AH. It’s best to do that with high level chars, tho… you can just leave BS stuck for now and come back to it later.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/325 "2009-01-12T10:37:19Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Some in-game etiquette issues I’d love to see Blizzard address:
> 
> • Mounts in towns/cities. This is especially bad in Ironforge. The area between the bank and the AH there … good lord it’s ridiculous the number of people thundering around that area on humongous mounts! Blizzard ought to introduce some kind of forced auto-dismount upon entering city gates. Half the time I can’t even see where I’m trying to go because there are so many mounts. Last night in Ironforge I was inside a shop, and when I turned to leave I found somebody had parked their mount right across the doorway. I walked through it, of course, but being unable to see exactly where and how far I was going, I almost walked straight over the edge of that gaping chasm that runs through Ironforge.

I… can’t relate. I’ve never found that a problem. Are you using your mouse wheel to zoom your field of vision in and out? If you can’t see where you’re going from far back behind your character’s head, zoom in until you can see as though you were looking through their eyes. Reverse if necessary.

> [@](#):
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> • “Parking violations”: Numbskulls who park their characters (often mounted) in front of a mailbox, vendor, banker, etc., and then go AFK, making it difficult to accurately click on the mailbox/vendor/banker. I suspect people do this just to be irritating.
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> • Line hoggers: Knuckleheads who stand right in front of a mailbox/vendor/banker while they do their crafting and the like. It appears they’re purchasing/withdrawing materials and then proceeding with their crafting on the spot. I suspect these people are just clueless. Move to the side or go stand on the lawn to do your crafting! To quote comedian John Pinnette, “[Get out of the line!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUlf1F05gTA)”

I’ll have to apologise. I’ve been guilty of this, but only because I never realised other people found me to be blocking their view. I’ll try to be more aware from now on.

> [@](#):
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> I also encountered an incredibly rude jerk last night. I was in Stranglethorn and had just killed and looted a tiger, but before I could skin it I had to engage another nearby tiger. So while I’m fighting this other tiger, another player ran up and skinned the first tiger (which I was practically standing on) and ran off. :mad:

Yeah, I had a similar experience on my newest toon in Westfall last week. I had to fight off two of those big rusty things to get to a bag of oats, and just as I’m about to deal the death blow to the second one, a dwarf runs up, grabs the oats I was standing on and runs off. I yelled (actually, I just said) “asshole” as he ran away, but I still sulked about it until I got my pet chicken a few minutes later.

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**Author:** ![Splat\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Splat\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Splat_1)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/326 "2009-01-12T12:47:17Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> my druid has Herbalism/Cooking.

Just in case you didn’t know, cooking isn’t one of the primary professions…it’s one of the secondary ones.

You can take any two of the main professions (herbing, mining, skinning, blacksmithing, etc), and also take all of three of the secondary professions (cooking, first aid, and fishing).

So if you’re after the cash, make sure your druid picks up another primary gathering profession.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/327 "2009-01-12T13:06:39Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> successfully acquired a Westfall Chicken pet 🙂

Vindicated! 😃

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/328 "2009-01-12T13:33:00Z")

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> [@Pochacco](#):
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> Gathering professions are your friends! Take skinning + mining or herbalism and start selling what you collect on the AH. You’ll be rolling in gold before you know it.
> 
> Crafting is a big money sink. The only recipes that you can turn a profit on are high-level rare drops. When you’re low level you don’t have access to those recipes, so you’re better off doing gathering exclusively. Who’s buying your materials you might ask? High-level characters who don’t want to waste time in newbie areas harvesting copper and light leather. Or other low level characters who haven’t been told what I’m telling you right now … . 😉
> 
> I rolled a new gnome mage last week on Moon Guard. She’s level 15 now and has about 10 gold in the bank, just from selling copper bars in the AH. YMMV depending on the economy of your server, but you’ll definitely make enough to buy yourself decent gear.
> 
> You’ll want to start accumulating gold not just so you can get better gear, but also because at level 30 you’ll need it to buy your mount!

True. I can say on Archimonde, horde side I’ve made over 300 gold just selling ore at the auction in the last ten days…and that without actively seeking out ore.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/329 "2009-01-12T13:59:56Z")

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mounts, heh.

I remember the first days that people got netherdrakes. They were parked hovering over everything and pretty much blocked everything available.

although last night we managed sartharion + 3 drakes (first horde side, second server) and the drake that drops from that is really good looking.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/330 "2009-01-12T16:46:06Z")

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> [@TwistofFate](#):
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> mounts, heh.
> 
> I remember the first days that people got netherdrakes. They were parked hovering over everything and pretty much blocked everything available.

These days it’s mammoths. You get a couple of Tauren on mammoths standing around in Dalaran and they can block half the town! It’s very annoying.

The spouse has a good solution for it, though: when they (or anybody) deliberately stands on something he’s trying to get at, he tosses Baby Spice on it, shrinks it down to a wee little cow-on-mammoth, and goes about his business. 🙂

BTW, another trick (I learned this during the days when the badge vendor came out on Quel’danas Isle and everybody was mobbing it): do Ctrl-V to show nameplates, then click on the vendor’s nameplate. Pisses off all the opposite faction types who’ve flagged up to try to get you to click them by accident 🙂 (I’m on a PvE realm.) Doesn’t work on mailboxes, though, unfortunately.

> [@](#):
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> although last night we managed sartharion + 3 drakes (first horde side, second server) and the drake that drops from that is really good looking.

I’m jealous! We’re still working on two drakes–Sarth + 2 or 3 drakes is the last thing our guild needs before we’ve cleared all the current raid content. Any tips?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/331 "2009-01-12T16:51:10Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Make sure to have growl on and cower off - I have no idea how birds manage to growl but apparently they do.

I own birds in real life. I can’t speak for all species, but several varieties of parrot can and really do _growl_. (They also hiss like snakes) So the “growl” ability for hunting birds has never bothered me as a concept.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/332 "2009-01-12T16:53:50Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> My paladin has the (currently-unfortunate combo of Blacksmithing/Enchanting. But she was one of the first characters I made and I didn’t know any better. I’ve got her Enchanting up, but her Blacksmithing is languishing without materials. Where do I go to ditch a profession? I haven’t seen that option, though I know it’s there somewhere.

You can abandon a profession anywhere - just go to the “skills” window of your character sheet, and I think there’s a red x on the right end of your different professional skills which you can click to abandon the profession. (The game will ask you if you’re sure).

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/333 "2009-01-12T16:53:58Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> The spouse has a good solution for it, though: when they (or anybody) deliberately stands on something he’s trying to get at, he tosses Baby Spice on it, shrinks it down to a wee little cow-on-mammoth, and goes about his business. 🙂

I’ve been doing that sort of thing, too.

Although I admit to occasionally shrinking a vendor or flight master down while a crowd is surrounding them just to stir up a little trouble. But only rarely.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/334 "2009-01-12T16:56:48Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> These days it’s mammoths. You get a couple of Tauren on mammoths standing around in Dalaran and they can block half the town! It’s very annoying.
> 
> The spouse has a good solution for it, though: when they (or anybody) deliberately stands on something he’s trying to get at, he tosses Baby Spice on it, shrinks it down to a wee little cow-on-mammoth, and goes about his business. 🙂

Hmmmmm. These two paragraphs go a long way toward explaining a really irritating phenomenon I’ve been seeing off and on in Ironforge recently. There’s folks lounging around on their mammoths in the main square between the auction house and bank, and every so often one of them will suddenly BALLOON up until he fills half the square and completely obscures vision, then quickly shrinks back to normal size. I’ve seen that behavior on both PCs and NPCs that get transformed somehow, but he wasn’t transforming, simply changing size rapidly.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/335 "2009-01-12T17:57:26Z")

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> [@Cazzle](#):
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> I’ll have to apologise. I’ve been guilty of this, but only because I never realised other people found me to be blocking their view. I’ll try to be more aware from now on.

It’s mainly a problem because it’s rarely just one person. The other day I found a little circle of people around the mailbox in SW all doing (or appearing to be doing) crafting. But sometimes one person can be a problem — particularly in Thunder Bluff where many of the vendors are in those small wigwams/huts and stand just inside, and the door is only “one tauren-width”, so it only takes one tauren to completely block access to that vendor.

> [@jayjay](#):
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> Vindicated! 😃

Forgive me my doubting 😛 I’ll tell you, though, it’s next to impossible to accomplish that task without drawing a crowd. Every single time I’ve tried it, I end up with at least one person running up and challenging me to a duel, and several others who are apparently puzzled or amused by my behavior and start clucking themselves.

> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> These days it’s mammoths. You get a couple of Tauren on mammoths standing around in Dalaran and they can block half the town! It’s very annoying.

That’s what finally prompted me to complain — the area between the bank and AH in Ironforge was literally _packed_ with mammoths and what looked like oliphants. Most of them standing on or at either end of that bridge.

> [@](#):
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> The spouse has a good solution for it, though: when they (or anybody) deliberately stands on something he’s trying to get at, he tosses Baby Spice on it, shrinks it down to a wee little cow-on-mammoth, and goes about his business. 🙂

I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Where does one obtain this “Baby Spice”?

> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Hmmmmm. These two paragraphs go a long way toward explaining a really irritating phenomenon I’ve been seeing off and on in Ironforge recently. There’s folks lounging around on their mammoths in the main square between the auction house and bank, and every so often one of them will suddenly BALLOON up until he fills half the square and completely obscures vision, then quickly shrinks back to normal size. I’ve seen that behavior on both PCs and NPCs that get transformed somehow, but he wasn’t transforming, simply changing size rapidly.

That’s the other thing I saw happening, though from where I was standing (some distance from that bridge) it appeared that this one particular mastodon/oliphant who was standing on the bridge kept disappearing, reappearing behind me, and flying sideways back to the bridge. I suppose the “flying” could have just been an optical illusion, and it was actually ballooning up so big that I was simply encompassed by it and its shrinking back down created the illusion that it was flying back to the bridge from somewhere behind me.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/336 "2009-01-12T18:22:56Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Where does one obtain this “Baby Spice”?

It’s a random drop from doing Dalaran cooking dailies.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/337 "2009-01-12T18:47:26Z")

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If you’re selling for profit, check the prices. Sometimes a metal’s ore sells for more than a smelted bar will. I assume it’s because people are buying ore to smelt and level up their mining skill.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/338 "2009-01-12T18:54:31Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> If you’re selling for profit, check the prices. Sometimes a metal’s ore sells for more than a smelted bar will. I assume it’s because people are buying ore to smelt and level up their mining skill.

It’s because jewelcrafting uses raw ore for prospecting. Once you hit 150 mining, you can’t skill up on smelting because each new smelting ability is gray when you get it.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/339 "2009-01-12T19:04:13Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> It’s a random drop from doing Dalaran cooking dailies.

So, gonna be a while before I find any, eh?

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/340 "2009-01-12T19:26:06Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> It’s because jewelcrafting uses raw ore for prospecting. Once you hit 150 mining, you can’t skill up on smelting because each new smelting ability is gray when you get it.

Actually, this was changed a few patches ago, these days it is possible to smelt your way to 300 mining. Technically it’s even possible to reach 375 but then you would need to smelt Elementium at some point.

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