# World of Warcraft questions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 18, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802 "2008-12-18T20:40:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/641 "2009-01-22T13:26:43Z")
Or blue items. I won a roll on a blue helmet of somehing or other last night that was BOE. It was plate and no one in the party could actually use it, so i put it up for auction. (There were only 2 of us in the party, both hunters.) ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/642 "2009-01-22T13:59:04Z")
Thanks for the information looks like a new two handed mace for me tonight then. ---
**Author:** ![Redwing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Redwing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redwing)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/643 "2009-01-22T14:36:14Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Why wouldn’t a level 13 Warlock have a pet out? Could have been a phase shifted imp I guess. At level 13, IIRC, a lock should have a voidwalker out when soloing and an imp out when grouped. He should also have the imp attacking tanked mobs, else he’s gimping himself, and not practicing one his core mechanics. At low levels a lock not using a pet makes less since than a hunter not using a pet, though really both classes should always be using their pets. The only places you should see a lock without an attacking pet are fights like Heigan where area based damage will kill it (it takes some time to master fights like Sarthx3 and Sapphiron, but you can keep a pet up through them). All lock specs gain from having a pet attacking since the DS (demonic sacrifice) nerf. While I’m happy that we’re not a one button class anymore, I really don’t like that fire is so much better than shadow; if I wanted to fling fire around I’d have rolled a mage. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/644 "2009-01-22T14:55:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > • When a quest sends me into a specific location to kill a specific number of a specific mob, it would be cool if the game would actually spawn that many. I’m talking about Dun Modr, in this case. I had to kill 5 each of 4 different kinds of Dark Iron Dwarves, including 5 Dark Iron Demolitionists. There were far more than 5 each of the first three kinds of DID’s, but despite the fact that I managed to go through the whole place and kill everything before any of them respawned, I found a grand total of 2 Demolitionists in the whole place. So I had to wait around, killing other dwarves as they respawned, waiting for 2 more Demolitionists to appear (they always seemed to spawn in pairs) and then repeat the whole process while I waited for 2 more to spawn so I could get #5. Ah… you stayed close to the questgiver, I gather? There’s more fuuuuuuuurther east, at a couple of camps, sort of in the top right corner of the map. > [@](#): > > I can’t believe the way my druid (now lvl 23) chews through the mana. … She’s the only spellcaster I’ve played extensively - is it like this for the other casting classes? It gets less bad at higher levels, with “mana management” talents and skills, but you still should make sure to carry a ton of water. Or a mage in your pocket. Or, if you’re a warlock, food… yeah, Life Tap is great but overdoing it and then getting slapped by a repopping mob can’t be something to brag about. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/645 "2009-01-22T15:04:43Z")
I finally got my Eastern Kingdoms Exploration achievement yesterday (plus a passle of fishing achievements). I’m thinking about trying for the whole enchilada: the title-granting World Explorer achievement, but I thought I heard that at least one required exploration area necessitates a flying mount. Can anyone confirm (I’m level 66)? Is the World Explorer achievement the easiest title-granting achievement to obtain for a normal, non-PVP player? I am fairly well-skilled in cooking, first aid, and herbalism, too. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/646 "2009-01-22T15:08:59Z")
> [@Raza](#): > > I finally got my Eastern Kingdoms Exploration achievement yesterday (plus a passle of fishing achievements). I’m thinking about trying for the whole enchilada: the title-granting World Explorer achievement, but I thought I heard that at least one required exploration area necessitates a flying mount. Can anyone confirm (I’m level 66)? I tried it in my early 70s as my druid, and ran into discovery spots in Sholazar Basin that can only be achieved by flying - and in Northrend, you can’t fly until level 77 and dropping 1k on Cold Weather Flying. I would also consider the majority of Icecrown and Storm Peaks to be flight-accessible-only as well. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/647 "2009-01-22T15:28:20Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I tried it in my early 70s as my druid, and ran into discovery spots in Sholazar Basin that can only be achieved by flying - and in Northrend, you can’t fly until level 77 and dropping 1k on Cold Weather Flying. I would also consider the majority of Icecrown and Storm Peaks to be flight-accessible-only as well. Most of the zones in Outland have one spot that can only be reached by flying (or strategic positioning on a mountain and getting killed by a mob so you rez at the graveyard in the area). You can do it with the “cheap” regular flying at level 70 or whatever it is. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/648 "2009-01-22T16:16:45Z")
> [@Raza](#): > > I finally got my Eastern Kingdoms Exploration achievement yesterday (plus a passle of fishing achievements). I’m thinking about trying for the whole enchilada: the title-granting World Explorer achievement, but I thought I heard that at least one required exploration area necessitates a flying mount. Can anyone confirm (I’m level 66)? You pretty much need a flyer to complete Explore Storm Peaks. There might be weaselly ways to do it without one, but I imagine they’d take a _long_ time and require the help of at least one rez-capable friend. I suppose you could do it if you had a patient warlock friend and two buddies to just summon you around to the various area, but warlock summoning is bugged now and has a two-minute cooldown, so this would be very tedious until they fix that. Easiest way is to just wait until you have a flyer. > [@](#): > > Is the World Explorer achievement the easiest title-granting achievement to obtain for a normal, non-PVP player? I am fairly well-skilled in cooking, first aid, and herbalism, too. Probably, though the “Jenkins” title is pretty easy to get too. Just take some friends with good AoE, round up the whelps, and _voila_! (I’ve heard Jenkins called the “welfare title” because virtually anyone can get it with very little effort. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/649 "2009-01-22T16:19:25Z")
> [@martu](#): > > A couple of questions: > > Can I trade green items with other players? I didn’t win one Need roll last night. You should be able to trade anything that doesn’t say “soulbound” or “quest item” in it’s description. I think. > [@](#): > > Why wouldn’t a level 13 Warlock have a pet out? Could have been a phase shifted imp I guess. The Warlock may have been using the imp, who died, and the warlock didn’t notice. Heh. > [@](#): > > Is Westfall harder than Ghostlands? So many areas where you can end up fighting 3 or more mobs, from what I remember of Ghostlands it was much easier to fight one at a time. Hmm. I thought Ghostlands was tougher. YMMV. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/650 "2009-01-22T16:25:31Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > Probably, though the “Jenkins” title is pretty easy to get too. Just take some friends with good AoE, round up the whelps, and _voila_! (I’ve heard Jenkins called the “welfare title” because virtually anyone can get it with very little effort. Not quite anyone - **ritzyrae** and I took our two level 70+s to get it only to discover you still need 3 people to trigger the event that opens the rookery. And there was no one else in Blackrock Spire that night and we didn’t feel like spamming for more and waiting. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/651 "2009-01-22T17:45:02Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > [Relevant webcomic.](http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/Ding-2008-10-07.aspx) The whole comic is entertaining, but your last post made me think of that particular strip, **Roger**. 🙂 > > Right now I’m trying to get the [Ice Barbed Spear](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19106), which is attained by winning one battle in Alterac Valley. All the comments on Wowhead make it sound like this is child’s play, even at level 51. …Yeah, well, guess who’s been on the losing side 5 for 5? :mad: I’ve been in two matches where the Alliance wasn’t grossly outnumbered (I’m talking 15-20 Alliance to 40 Horde, here), and when we were evenly matched we got stomped anyway. Since I’m in the 51-60 bracket, at level 52 I’m outgunned by nearly everyone I come across. Dispiriting, to say the least. I’m tempted to ignore it and power on through to 60, when I can go to the Outlands and pick up better equipment, but…one win, that’s all it should take, right? ☹ I haven’t had the time to check out your link yet, but its a vicious circle. Last night after my friend and I were killed by lvl “??” alliance guys several times we rezzed at the graveyard and had the discussion of how when we hit 80 we were going to absolutely make alliance players miserable with ganking just for revenge. Petty, I know…still, I plan on doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/652 "2009-01-22T23:52:01Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Ah… you stayed close to the questgiver, I gather? There’s more fuuuuuuuurther east, at a couple of camps, sort of in the top right corner of the map. > [@mlees](#): > > There is another (outdoor) area, off to the east past the raptors, with a bunch of DID’s (as well as the named leader you’re supposed to get an ear off of). Plenty available to get your quota (although they are packed into their camps a little tight. Carefull with your pulls). Yeah, I found them when I went after the named guy, but most of the dwarves there were of different kinds from the ones actually in Dun Modr, AFAICT. What’s up with that Twilight Grove in Duskwood? I made a rather difficult climb through a hard-to-find route to get in there so I could complete the “Explore Duskwood” achievement, and discovered the place is like stepping into Teldrassil. But there was nobody there at all, not even any beasts or critters — just a moonwell, one of those gazebo things with a birdbath, and a bigass portal to nowhere. I can only assume it comes into play in a later quest? Stranglethorn Vale: I discovered that my hunter should have taken all of the quests from Hemet Nesingwary’s compatriots at the same time he took the quests from Nesingwary himself. That would have gone a long way toward addressing my complaints about the lack of “level appropriate” quests. What happened was I took Hemet’s first “Raptor Mastery” quest and then followed that whole chain out before I talked to the other people there. When I finally talked to the other guys I discovered that one of them gives the “Tiger Mastery” chain and the other gives the “Panther Mastery” chain. :smack: Considering the number of tigers and panthers I killed in the process of hunting raptors … :smack: again. Oh well, something to remember the next time I make a hunter. Booty Bay: I trotted my paladin all the way down there to get the fishing book, and discovered that place is almost as hard for a human to navigate as it was for my tauren. So I guess it’s not just the tauren’s size that makes that place difficult. I located the Inn while looking for the place to buy the fishing book, and then it took me almost 30 minutes to find the Inn again. Fishing: Do the higher-level fishing areas require quicker clicking reflexes or something? A couple days ago I had no problems with catching something like 76 fish around Menethil, and then yesterday I could hardly catch anything in Booty Bay. I think I caught 2 fish in the midst of a couple dozen “Your fish got away” messages. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/653 "2009-01-23T00:03:51Z")
Actually, Twilight Grove should have been CRAWLING with dragonkin. And at least one major dragon. It’s one of the four locales for the Corrupted Aspects (the other three are in Ashenvale, Feralas and…um…can’t remember…) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/654 "2009-01-23T00:07:34Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Fishing: Do the higher-level fishing areas require quicker clicking reflexes or something? A couple days ago I had no problems with catching something like 76 fish around Menethil, and then yesterday I could hardly catch anything in Booty Bay. I think I caught 2 fish in the midst of a couple dozen “Your fish got away” messages. Fishing is very much straight probability. Each area has a minimum skill level to fish at, where your chance of a successful capture is 5%. Booty Bay/Stranglethorn requires 130 minimum. So 130 skill = 5% chance of catching a fish when you click on the bobber in the right time frame. After that, every skill point is an extra 1%, so 137 fishing = 12%. You have to have 225 fishing to get a 100% catch rate. ETA: By contrast, the Wetlands only need 55 skill minimum, with 150 for 100%. There’s a couple ways to get around this: use a lure to boost your fishing skill temporarily, or fish in lower level areas to get your skill up. Skill goes up at the same rate no matter where you fish, but it only goes up on a successful catch. You can fish from 1 to 450 in Stormwind if you really want to. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/655 "2009-01-23T00:08:02Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > What’s up with that Twilight Grove in Duskwood? I made a rather difficult climb through a hard-to-find route to get in there so I could complete the “Explore Duskwood” achievement, and discovered the place is like stepping into Teldrassil. But there was nobody there at all, not even any beasts or critters — just a moonwell, one of those gazebo things with a birdbath, and a bigass portal to nowhere. I can only assume it comes into play in a later quest? I think that’s an entry point for future expansions. So far as I know, there’s currently no content for that area. > [@](#): > > Stranglethorn Vale: I discovered that my hunter should have taken all of the quests from Hemet Nesingwary’s compatriots at the same time he took the quests from Nesingwary himself. That would have gone a long way toward addressing my complaints about the lack of “level appropriate” quests. What happened was I took Hemet’s first “Raptor Mastery” quest and then followed that whole chain out before I talked to the other people there. When I finally talked to the other guys I discovered that one of them gives the “Tiger Mastery” chain and the other gives the “Panther Mastery” chain. :smack: Considering the number of tigers and panthers I killed in the process of hunting raptors … :smack: again. Oh well, something to remember the next time I make a hunter. Any time you’re in a new zone, grab every quest you can. You never know when you’re going to find the things you need to complete it. > [@](#): > > Fishing: Do the higher-level fishing areas require quicker clicking reflexes or something? A couple days ago I had no problems with catching something like 76 fish around Menethil, and then yesterday I could hardly catch anything in Booty Bay. I think I caught 2 fish in the midst of a couple dozen “Your fish got away” messages. Not quicker reflexes, just a higher fishing skill. You’re just barely a good enough fisher to fish Booty Bay - if your skill were any lower, it wouldn’t even let you cast. You need to spend more time in a lower-level zone, practicing your fishing to get it up to a higher level. That will cut down on the number of escaped fish messages you see. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/656 "2009-01-23T00:39:58Z")
Hey, what’s that racetrack/airstrip-looking area in northeast Dun Morogh? I keep flying over it, and there appears to be a gryphon aerie and some kind of guard post there, but I don’t think I’ve ever been there (and I have the “Explore Dun Morogh” achievement). ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/657 "2009-01-23T00:47:25Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Hey, what’s that racetrack/airstrip-looking area in northeast Dun Morogh? I keep flying over it, and there appears to be a gryphon aerie and some kind of guard post there, but I don’t think I’ve ever been there (and I have the “Explore Dun Morogh” achievement). It’s the Ironforge airfield, it’s just one of the things that are supposed to make world look less empty when you fly by on the gryphon. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/658 "2009-01-23T00:52:55Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Hey, what’s that racetrack/airstrip-looking area in northeast Dun Morogh? I keep flying over it, and there appears to be a gryphon aerie and some kind of guard post there, but I don’t think I’ve ever been there (and I have the “Explore Dun Morogh” achievement). It used to be possible to reach it through careful use of jumping through the mountains, but I think Blizzard closed that route off long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/659 "2009-01-23T00:58:28Z")
Be careful in those areas in Duskwood, The Hinterlands, Ashenvale, and Feralas with the big portals. Usually they’re quite tranquil, but they are the entrances to the Emerald Dream (content not yet existent) and there are ?? boss dragons occasionally guarding them. They are killable, and drop loot, but you need a party of 60+ players. It’s no place for a lowbie to be puttering around, particularly with the high-level elite dragonkin walking around. (Duskwood, for some reason, does not have these elites.) If you are in those zones and you hear idiots named Ysondre, Lethon, Emeriss, or Taerar yelling, basically calling people out, it’s them. They’re actually quite impressive and worth seeing (from a distance!). Here’s Ysondre. > **[Ysondre](https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Ysondre)** > > Were you looking for information on defeating Ysondre prior to Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module 'Module:Inlinegfx/img\_link\_data.json' not found. Cataclysm, see Lua error in package.lua at line 80: module... ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802/660 "2009-01-23T00:58:56Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Hey, what’s that racetrack/airstrip-looking area in northeast Dun Morogh? I keep flying over it, and there appears to be a gryphon aerie and some kind of guard post there, but I don’t think I’ve ever been there (and I have the “Explore Dun Morogh” achievement). Flavor. Something to look at while you’re flying. Makes it seem like a fuller world. On the Wetlands side of the mountain are a bunch of what look like rice paddy farms you don’t have access to, either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-questions/477802.md?page=34)