# World peace: Is it possible?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [December 25, 2004, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591 "2004-12-25T15:32:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author: ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/21 "2004-12-27T21:20:52Z")

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Only if you’re a beauty queen.

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### Author: ![fortytwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f9ae1b/32.png) [@fortytwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fortytwo)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/22 "2004-12-27T22:39:51Z")

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> [@The Gaspode](#):
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> As more and more companies are mega-multinationals, with employees in every corner of the world, with production in every corner of the world, the incentives for making war will be less and less of an option. Will Lockheed Martin provide arms to destroy the infrastructure in a country where they have production? Are politicos willing to start war that will destroy the base of their own power? Nope.

Have you read Rollerball? 🙂 Perhaps the wars will be between companies.

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### Author: ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/23 "2004-12-27T23:45:36Z")

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> [@Vetch](#):
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> Have you read Rollerball? 🙂 Perhaps the wars will be between companies.

Actually, it’s not unlikely. I haven’t read the book, and I can’t remember the movie, if it’s from the same book. But I don’t think it’s too farfetched.

And even if war between nation almost will vanish, terrorism won’t. This is the big problem the US is facing. For most of the 20th century, America had clear cut enemies, contained in foreign coutries and war was waged on foreign soil (apart from Pearl Harbor). Europeans have had to deal with terrorists for a much longer time, almost no Western European country was left without some kind of terrorist attack during the 70’s - 00’s. It’s gotta be a strange and uneasy feeling for many Americans to know that “war” can show up on their doorsteps.

And this is possibly also the reason the White House have gotten away with all they have for the past 3 years.

Anyway, even if war, as we’ve grown to know it, goes away, violence won’t. The world might become a better place, but it won’t be a la-la-land utopia.

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### Author: ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/24 "2004-12-28T00:54:51Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> He’s the Pope. Part of the job description is to not despair of humanity in public.

But wouldn’t it be kind of refreshing if he tossed his speech on the ground and said “Ah, go f\*ck yerself, ya bastards.”

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### Author: ![Wrath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ee7513/32.png) [@Wrath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrath)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2004, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/25 "2004-12-28T01:27:42Z")

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War is inevitable. There may be a period of time when there are no wars, but whirled peas is unlikely.

The reason is simple, IMO - there are limited resources. There is limited space, there is limited energy. As long as there is competition for resources, and humans on the planet competing for those resources, there will be war.

This theory flies in the face of my Libertarianesque love of competition in a highly competitive free market, but some would argue businesses wage war all the time, and kill or merge with competitors. Although lives are not lost necessarily, livlihoods are.

Business is hell.

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### Author: ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2004, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/26 "2004-12-28T01:45:18Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> But wouldn’t it be kind of refreshing if he tossed his speech on the ground and said “Ah, go f\*ck yerself, ya bastards.”

Wonder how that sounds in a Polish accent. 😃

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### Author: ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2004, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/27 "2004-12-28T10:01:23Z")

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> [@Wrath](#):
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> War is inevitable. There may be a period of time when there are no wars, but whirled peas is unlikely.
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> The reason is simple, IMO - there are limited resources. There is limited space, there is limited energy. As long as there is competition for resources, and humans on the planet competing for those resources, there will be war.
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> This theory flies in the face of my Libertarianesque love of competition in a highly competitive free market, but some would argue businesses wage war all the time, and kill or merge with competitors. Although lives are not lost necessarily, livlihoods are.
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> Business is hell.

If business is hell, then kartels and monopolies are the blessed peace makers. 😉 See, even competing companies know they’re better served by sharing and dividing the market fairly among themselves and fixing the prices. Whether that is done on purpose or through finding a natural balance, it comes down to the same. There’s no reason why the human race shouldn’t find a balance with it’s growth and human resources eventually, as long as the species and its culture manage to evolve we’ve got a good shot at this. But it will take a while yet, and that’s perhaps why it’s hard to see for some now.

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### Author: ![Wrath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ee7513/32.png) [@Wrath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrath)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-peace-is-it-possible/281591/28 "2004-12-28T14:29:23Z")

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> [@Arwin](#):
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> If business is hell, then kartels and monopolies are the blessed peace makers. 😉

NO! They are the bloody dictators!

> [@Arwin](#):
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> There’s no reason why the human race shouldn’t find a balance with it’s growth and human resources eventually, as long as the species and its culture manage to evolve we’ve got a good shot at this.

The reason is simply that, like it is with business, there are some bad people who do not have anyone’s interests at heart but their own, partly due, IMO to our DNA coding; that sometimes cuthroat competition for limited resources is in our genes. Unless that can be bred out of the human genome…

It’s almost like the fallacy recently avered that in a few decades there will be no more blonde people. Well, reality is, that trait cannot be bred out without willful intent.

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