# World Trade Center Plane Crash **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 11, 2001, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850 "2001-09-11T13:03:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/201 "2001-09-11T14:50:53Z")
Walt Disney World security is on high alert. No kidding. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/202 "2001-09-11T14:52:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\ ***Moderator’s Notes:** > I see several instances of people wishing swift and terrible vengeance on the as yet unknown assailants. While I certainly sympathize, I’d like to suggest that these comments are not productive. In fact, in the heat and confusion of this moment, those comments may be misunderstood by other members. My advice is that we all refrain from expressions of temper. Displays of such are inappropriate to the solmenity of this horrific act. Thank you. \*\* **Uncle Beer** , I respect your opinion and advice. I hope you will understand, and all other members as well, that we are stunned and reacting on the spur of the moment. I do not believe that anyone posting here is suggesting violent action without ironclad proof, and as has been pointed out this is not necessarily a foreign act of terrorism, though that seems likeliest at this time. Obviously, we’re not suggesting lynch mobs here. That said, given the level of outrage, I respectfully suggest a slackening of the usual rules. Shock is now beginning to turn to rage, I’ve noticed. Fellow Dopers, please remember to moderate your comments in this forum - that’s what the Pit is for. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/203 "2001-09-11T14:54:10Z")
**Moderator’s Notes:** Allow me add a further clarification to my notes above. If you must express your rage, there are appropriate threads currently in the Pit. Let’s please keep this one free for news and updates. Thank you again. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/204 "2001-09-11T14:58:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\ ***Moderator’s Notes:** > I see several instances of people wishing swift and terrible vengeance on the as yet unknown assailants. While I certainly sympathize, I’d like to suggest that these comments are not productive. In fact, in the heat and confusion of this moment, those comments may be misunderstood by other members. My advice is that we all refrain from expressions of temper. Displays of such are inappropriate to the solmenity of this horrific act. Thank you. \*\* **Uncle Beer** , I respect your opinion and advice. I hope you will understand, and all other members as well, that we are stunned and reacting on the spur of the moment. I do not believe that anyone posting here is suggesting violent action without ironclad proof, and as has been pointed out this is not necessarily a foreign act of terrorism, though that seems likeliest at this time. Obviously, we’re not suggesting lynch mobs here. That said, given the level of outrage, I respectfully suggest a slackening of the usual rules. Shock is now beginning to turn to rage, I’ve noticed. Fellow Dopers, please remember to moderate your comments in this forum - that’s what the Pit is for. ---
**Author:** ![RalfCoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RalfCoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RalfCoder)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/205 "2001-09-11T15:00:15Z")
NPR reports that a section of the west side of the Pentagon has completely collapsed. The section is 75-100 feet wide, and apparently goes completely through from the outside to the courtyard inside. It goes from the top completely to the ground. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/206 "2001-09-11T15:00:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\ ***Moderator’s Notes:** > I see several instances of people wishing swift and terrible vengeance on the as yet unknown assailants. While I certainly sympathize, I’d like to suggest that these comments are not productive. In fact, in the heat and confusion of this moment, those comments may be misunderstood by other members. My advice is that we all refrain from expressions of temper. Displays of such are inappropriate to the solmenity of this horrific act. Thank you. \*\* **Uncle Beer** , I respect your opinion and advice. I hope you will understand, and all other members as well, that we are stunned and reacting on the spur of the moment. I do not believe that anyone posting here is suggesting violent action without ironclad proof, and as has been pointed out this is not necessarily a foreign act of terrorism, though that seems likeliest at this time. Obviously, we’re not suggesting lynch mobs here. That said, given the level of outrage, I respectfully suggest a slackening of the usual rules. Shock is now beginning to turn to rage, I’ve noticed. Fellow Dopers, please remember to moderate your comments in this forum - that’s what the Pit is for. Now we need to help our injured, bury our dead… …and find out exactly who did this. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/207 "2001-09-11T15:03:03Z")
Can someone who is watching CNN volunteer to send me updates?? I’m at work and, as expected, the internet is completely overloaded. If you could email me at my address I’ll send you my work email address. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/208 "2001-09-11T15:06:33Z")
Ditto. I cannot get any news sites on the Net at all. PLease keep updating. Where’s Bush? Man, I heard the US/Canadian border is shut down on the radio. How in the hell is this going to end? ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/209 "2001-09-11T15:06:40Z")
The NASDAQ site is having quite brief, but fast, updates on this tragedy. [http://www.nasdaq.com](http://www.nasdaq.com) and go to “Market News” ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/210 "2001-09-11T15:06:57Z")
Poysyn, try this site. Audio only, and Chicago news at the moment, but it works. [http://www.wbez.org](http://www.wbez.org) ---
**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/211 "2001-09-11T15:09:46Z")
Is anyone else eerily reminded of the premiere episode of the Lone Gunmen? that\_darn\_cat: I heard that they shut down and evacuated the Homer City Generating Station. This must be the largest terrorist incident in history. Be assured that an operation of this magnitude had to leave a trail. ---
**Author:** ![Formerly\_Bandersnatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e36b37/32.png) [@Formerly\_Bandersnatch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Formerly_Bandersnatch)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/212 "2001-09-11T15:09:59Z")
Chicago NPR is here [http://www.wbez.org/services/ram/livefeed/livefeed.ram](http://www.wbez.org/services/ram/livefeed/livefeed.ram) you don’t have to search for the link ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/213 "2001-09-11T15:10:53Z")
**Cartooniverse** is in Manhattan this week, doing some filming. He called me on Sunday night from the west side highway. I have been trying for most of the morning to reach him and can not. If anyone hears from him, please let me know. ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/214 "2001-09-11T15:14:35Z")
brownlee@tpg.com.au Australian server. I can try to provide email updates to US dopers with internet problems. ---
**Author:** ![Phallyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5e9695/32.png) [@Phallyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phallyn)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/215 "2001-09-11T15:14:50Z")
Bulletin: Canada has just shut down all of it’s own airports, follwing the American example. Buildings in Dallas and meetings in Florida have been evacuated and cancelled. According to CNN, there’s been another explosion in NYC, they think from a car bomb. I’ll try to keep the updates coming as info becomes available. ---
**Author:** ![that\_darn\_cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/59ef9b/32.png) [@that\_darn\_cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/that_darn_cat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/216 "2001-09-11T15:15:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LateComer \* > that\_darn\_cat: I heard that they shut down and evacuated the Homer City Generating Station. > \*\* That’s about twenty miles from us. It’s non-nuclear, in case anybody’s worried. The plane that went down in PA was a 767 out of Pittsburgh. According to my freind in DC they scrambled F-16’s out of Andrews to intercept it in case it was headed for DC. The Air Force may have shot it down. My God. ---
**Author:** ![Bubba\_Ray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bubba\_Ray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bubba_Ray)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/217 "2001-09-11T15:16:28Z")
I cant really say how shoked I am about that… ---
**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/218 "2001-09-11T15:17:14Z")
As a fellow neighbor to the North, I really feel for your Nation at this time, and for the extreme loss of life. I do hope that they find the folks who did this, but foremost, I extend my condolences to anyone who has lost family and/or friends in this tragedy. Your Canadian friend, Max. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_The\_Younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/219 "2001-09-11T15:17:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bernse \* > \*\*Ditto. I cannot get any news sites on the Net at all. PLease keep updating. > > Where’s Bush? > > Man, I heard the US/Canadian border is shut down on the radio. > > How in the hell is this going to end? \*\* From Detroit: The Ambassador bridge to Ontario is closed. This just seems like common sense. Nothing in particular going on there. ---
**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/220 "2001-09-11T15:18:09Z")
This is a quick check in from a Pittsburgh doper, Le Sang and I are fine so far. I’m floored and scared, personally. This cannot be good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850.md?page=12)