# World Trade Center Plane Crash

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 11, 2001, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850 "2001-09-11T13:03:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/221 "2001-09-11T15:18:14Z")

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Every airport in North America has been closed. There are no flights taking off today.

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**Author:** ![Formerly\_Bandersnatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e36b37/32.png) [@Formerly\_Bandersnatch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Formerly_Bandersnatch)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/222 "2001-09-11T15:18:59Z")

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NY National Guard has been activated.

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**Author:** ![Kricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@Kricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kricket)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/223 "2001-09-11T15:20:41Z")

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I live about 15 blocks away from the Rock Island Arsenal and not too far from Cordova Nuclear Plant.  
Holy shit!

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/224 "2001-09-11T15:20:58Z")

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I know that everyone is in shock right now; I am in shock. Trying to reach my brother who lives right near Pittsburgh airport, the news is getting through but sparse and sometimes contradictory.

Earlier today when this looked like just an accident I made an off cuff remark to a colleague who is from Pakistan that was SO inappropriate, I wish I could take it back now. But sometimes the words don’t go back in your mouth.

Please remember that all Muslims are not terrorist, many are Americans or live and work here in America and are damn good people. The incidiary stuff is not appropriate and can cause more problems than it will ever solve. We don’t even know for sure yet who is doing this although I am sure that speculation is rife.

If you need to vent, go to the Pits and do so. Then take a deep breath and calm down. This is what they, whoever they are, want. They want us freaked out, and playing by their rules. I am for a strong, appropriate response, but let’s not get into group hatred and a game of blaming everyone, including the innocents. Be rational. Think before you speak or act.

My heart goes out to everyone who has suffered from this, directly or indirectly.

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/225 "2001-09-11T15:20:59Z")

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My cable is currently out. I just heard about this maybe half an hour ago, when my mom called, because she “just had to hear her children’s voices.”

I haven’t read this whole thread, but I will. I need news. Goddess, I am so freaked out.

I can’t think of anything else to say. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

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**Author:** ![Kamikazee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kamikazee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamikazee)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/226 "2001-09-11T15:21:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Ruby \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \*  
> > \*\ ***Moderator’s Notes:**  
> > I see several instances of people wishing swift and terrible vengeance on the as yet unknown assailants. While I certainly sympathize, I’d like to suggest that these comments are not productive. In fact, in the heat and confusion of this moment, those comments may be misunderstood by other members. My advice is that we all refrain from expressions of temper. Displays of such are inappropriate to the solmenity of this horrific act. Thank you. \*\*
> 
> Thank you, UncleBeer.
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> Everyone, he’s right. This is a tragedy above all others in modern history. We need to focus on the people whose lives have been forever altered by this travesty.
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> Calmer heads will prevail. \*\*

Ok… Once calmer heads prevail and we find out who the perpatraitors (intentional mis-spelling) are then vengance will be ours.

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**Author:** ![caveman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caveman/32/7242_2.png) [@caveman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caveman)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/227 "2001-09-11T15:21:31Z")

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Anyone else read Tom Clancy? Welcome to _The Sum of All Fears_…

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/228 "2001-09-11T15:21:36Z")

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President watch.

Bush is still presumed to be arriving at the White House in Washington later today. He’ll be arriving by motorcade rather than the helicopter they typically use.

Please don’t let anything happen to him!

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**Author:** ![Paul\_The\_Younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paul\_The\_Younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_The_Younger)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/229 "2001-09-11T15:23:52Z")

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Spurious reports of car bombs and a bomb scare in a high school (NBC) around the WTC sites. Some explosions may be just more of the buildings collapsing, or gas fires.

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**Author:** ![Nymysys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f6c823/32.png) [@Nymysys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nymysys)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/230 "2001-09-11T15:24:14Z")

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10,000 people in each tower during regular business hours. 10,000 in each. 20,000 people. Mother of god.  
Evacuation of a school. Apparently a bomb in it.

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/231 "2001-09-11T15:25:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Medea’s Child \*  
> \*\*This is a quick check in from a Pittsburgh doper, Le Sang and I are fine so far.  
> \*\*

**Verrain** is also in Penn. He’s fine and at the lab. Shaken, but okay.

They’re saying now that AA flight 11 had 81 passangers. AA has lost contact with one of it’s flights out of Dulles to LA, 58 passangers.

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**Author:** ![GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@GSV\_Consolation\_of\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GSV_Consolation_of_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/232 "2001-09-11T15:25:54Z")

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[Small potatoes update] Canary Wharf, the tallest building in the UK has been evacuated, almost certainly just as a precaution. [/small potatoes update]

No words will do for the enormity of what has happened. My thoughts are with you.

~Robin

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**Author:** ![BunnyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BunnyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyGirl)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/233 "2001-09-11T15:26:50Z")

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**pldennison** , I’m keeping your FIL (was that right?) and you and your family in my prayers.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/234 "2001-09-11T15:28:50Z")

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My condolences to the families of all those involved in any way, as well as to the States in general. What can I say?

I wonder how Bush will handle this one. Presumably, several groups will claim responsibility and the most likely one will be found and targeted. CNN mentioned Afghanistan however I don’t think they necessarily had a firm basis for this. If new terrorism involves suicide bombings, what can a global missile shield do to protect against it?

Boston-LA flight down.  
Just heard a flight to San Francisco crashed, too.

My stars!

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**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/235 "2001-09-11T15:28:55Z")

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This just in (Fox News Chicago): American Airlines has confirmed that two of the three planes involved were theirs - flight 11 from Boston to LA and flight 77 from Dulles to LA. 11 is said to be the first one to hit WTC, 77 is the one reported to have hit the Pentagon. No word yet on the third plane.

We are not able to locate one of my husband’s co-workers who is traveling by air right now. My husband has business associates in the WTC. Another friend is awaiting news from someone who was to come in to O’Hare from NYC today.

This is scary as hell. I posted this elsewhere, but if anyone is having trouble with phone lines and needs to keep someone informed, please let me know, I will try to place calls for you.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/236 "2001-09-11T15:29:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by caveman \*  
> \*\*Anyone else read Tom Clancy? Welcome to _The Sum of All Fears_… \*\*

You mean _Debt of Honor_. Until they set off a nuclear weapon, that is.

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**Author:** ![Shmoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@Shmoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmoo)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/237 "2001-09-11T15:29:30Z")

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Checking in from Jackson Wyoming…very weird morning obviously. It had crossed my mind on my way to work that Cheney might be in town, as he has a home here. When I went to drop off my daughter at 1st grade, there were no children on the playground. I walked her into the school & spoke with her teacher who said they’d be keeping them inside for now & allowing people in & out of only designated doors. If I wasn’t freaked out before (well, I was) that really hit too close. Now I’m sitting at work just trying to digest the info…too shocking.

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**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/238 "2001-09-11T15:30:28Z")

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Confirmed.

United Flight 93? from Newark to San Francisco crashed in Pennsylvania.

Unclear if this is the first Pennsylvania crash or a second one and if related to the terrorist acts…

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/239 "2001-09-11T15:34:31Z")

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Former US President Bill Clinton is visiting Queensland, Australia. He is now the subject of a major security operation.

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/240 "2001-09-11T15:34:34Z")

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I saw the video on tv of the World Trade Centers it looked surreal like some sort of hollywood special effect.

So far I don’t know what stores closed today around Monterey, but it’ll be interesting to see.

Another shitty day.

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