# World Trade Center Plane Crash **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 11, 2001, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850 "2001-09-11T13:03:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/341 "2001-09-11T19:37:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by shelbo \* > \*\*The facat that they were able to hijack four airplanes at one time shows what a joke our airport security is. \*\* Shelbo, It may not be airport security. WIth online reservations, a group could put 8-10 men in first class, then storm the cockpit when a stewardess gets the flight crew coffee or something. Unarmed force and maybe a nonmetallic knife or two would be enough to secure the cockpit. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/342 "2001-09-11T19:47:25Z")
Which is why I think we should arm the pilots, damn it, and make sure they know what they’re doing. I’m sure it’s not a popular idea but it’s what I think right at this moment. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/343 "2001-09-11T19:50:08Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by moi \* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Paul The Younger \* > \*\*I’d say get a spine and get back home where you’re needed, but that’s probably a rant, so I won’t. \*\* I cannot believe that I am going to have to be the one to say this…believe me, it’s a little convuluted…but I think the last thing my country needs right now is a dead president (should any attacks continue). Plus, amongst all the chaos, I don’t know that his presence–which will require a lot of security, etc.–will aid or be noticed right now in any of our major cities. Tomorrow or Thursday, certainly, but just not necessary now. [QUOTE] I agree with _moi_… really even I know that the President is the head of America… no matter how some people despise him or if he makes wrong decisions or anything… he represents America. If he was there they would have to make sure he is safe because if he dies or something else happens… your going to have an even worse decimated populace. And I don’t think that’s going to help anyone, rather it would make the problem worse in the end. You may not like him much but he is an integral part of your country. ---
**Author:** ![Cabbage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@Cabbage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabbage)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/344 "2001-09-11T19:50:40Z")
With all the warnings of possible terrorist attacks, never did I imagine something of this magnitude. I didn’t first hear about this until about 1PM; I signed on AOL to check my email, glanced at the AOL opening screen with the headline “America Under Attack” with the picture of the WTC–I honestly thought it was a promo for some TV Movie of the Week until I came here and saw some of the active threads. Re Camp David, this is from a link on AOL’s opening screen, from the Kyodo News Service: > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 (Kyodo) - An aircraft crashed into the U.S. presidential retreat at Camp David, Maryland, on Tuesday, CBS television reported. > > Earlier two aircraft crashed into the World Trade Center buildings in New York and another into the Pentagon. _Several other federal buildings in Washington were also attacked._ The time of this report is 12:14PM EDT, so it may be incorrect. The italics are mine–does anyone know if there were other attacks in DC, or is this simply incorrect? ---
**Author:** ![Anal\_Scurvy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@Anal\_Scurvy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anal_Scurvy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/345 "2001-09-11T19:56:55Z")
from what I’ve gathered (in response to somebody’s questions): 1. A plane crashed near Camp David. 2. A half hour ago, there were two or zero unaccounted domestic flights (I think zero is correct) and twenty-two unaccounted international flights. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/346 "2001-09-11T20:00:38Z")
**Cabbage** , a CNN UPDATE at 2:12 PM CST > [@](#): > > NEW YORK (CNN) – In what appeared to be coordinated acts of > terrorism, two jets crashed into the twin towers of the World > Trade Center, collapsing them Tuesday while another aircraft > crashed into the Pentagon. Hundreds were injured or killed, if not more. > > A fourth aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania with 45 people on board. ---
**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/347 "2001-09-11T20:08:51Z")
As mentioned a little above, 2 747s are on the ground in Whitehorse, Yukon. According to a recent report on CBC radio, 1 is allegedly hijacked and signaled the ground in Alaska so. It was escorted to Whitehorse Yukon by US fighters. Its on the ground and surrounded by the RCMP. US fighters are still there circling the city. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/348 "2001-09-11T20:11:50Z")
To clear up the Camp David thing, CNN has been saying for several hours now that the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania _ **MAY** _ have been headed for Camp David. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There was **no** attack on Camp David. A car bomb was **not** detonated outside the capital building in DC. The damage seems to be confined to the WTC, the pentagon, and one plane crash in Pennsylvania. It is bad enough as it is. Rumor can only make it worse. ---
**Author:** ![Totoro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Totoro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Totoro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/349 "2001-09-11T20:12:22Z")
I live in Boston, and a girl at my school… Her whole family was on that flight. Her mother, father, and little sister. I can’t believe this… ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/350 "2001-09-11T20:14:02Z")
This is truly a sad day. When news got out that a plane had hit one of the towers, I was immediately reminded of the bomber which had rammed the Empire State Building during WWII. I thought it might have been a mechanical error, commands not responding for some reason or another. When the second plane hit, there wasn’t a doubt in my mind. This single image will be forever etched in my mind, as will the implosion of both towers with all those people left inside. My thoughts go to all the victims. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/351 "2001-09-11T20:16:04Z")
building 7 in the wtc complex is on fire and could collapse, says CNN. but i guess there’s no risk of losing further lives as i understand the area has been evacuated… ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/352 "2001-09-11T20:24:35Z")
It was just reported on CBS, by Laura Ingraham, that Barbara Olson was among those killed at the WTC today. ---
**Author:** ![Kbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Kbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kbean)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/353 "2001-09-11T20:31:19Z")
I am in shock. I don’t know what to do or think or anything. Being in school, we were sort of isolated and had no internet or tv (new school - networks arn’t up). Somehow we found put through someone’s radio. Many people left, crying. My friend had to leav, was picked up by her Mom, they both looked distraught. I am praying for all the victims and familes and I just dont know what to do or think or feel. It all came apart at the seams…my life isn’t the same now, no one’s is. ---
**Author:** ![Ennui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ennui/32/3396_2.png) [@Ennui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ennui)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/354 "2001-09-11T20:34:51Z")
The Jerusalem Post [Reports](http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/09/11/News/News.34586.html): > [@](#): > > Saudi terrorist Osama bin Laden is responsible for today’s terrorist attacks in the United States, according to a senior US official and former prime minister Ehud Barak. May bin Laden’s last breath be the sharp inhalation of excruciating pain, and may it come soon. (without regard to the possibility of error in the above cite) ---
**Author:** ![Servo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Servo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Servo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/355 "2001-09-11T20:37:36Z")
I have to get this out and this seems like the best of the current threads to do it. I was in the World Financial Center when the planes struck. My manager was on the top floor and actually saw the attack. He called me, and of course we all ran to the windows. I have **never** seen such a sight. Three or four floors about 70 stories up were destroyed. On the ground there were people running around, debris had crushed some cars and caused some fires. But then, I saw one, then another person fall out of the hole in the side of the building. I have never seen anything that has disturbed me more than that. I can still see him falling. [\<- Nightmares for weeks.] After the second plane hit there was chaos in the building, and we all evacuated. I just sat there dumbfounded; my mouth was just hanging open. Finally I just started to walk home, and felt like I was going to throw up the whole way. Thankfully I was able to get far enough away before they collapsed. I can’t believe the WTC is gone. Walking over the bridge I kept trying to see the building and I couldn’t. But I just repeated to myself that there was just too much smoke to see them. And when I saw the news and saw the towers fall I couldn’t even think straight. Gone. All of those people. The observation deck, Windows on the World, and the lobby with all of the world flags that I walked through everyday on my way to work. Gone. I live next to La Guardia Airport and the air is eerily quiet except for the occasional fighter plane. This isn’t supposed to happen here. ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/356 "2001-09-11T20:46:21Z")
Just posting to express my condoleances to all the victims and their families. I woke up this morning, turned on the TV and saw the reports. I feel numb. It feels like the world became a little more scarier. This should never have happened. I am not a religious person, but my thoughts remain with the survivors of this tragedy. Humorous signature not included in this post for obvious reason. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/357 "2001-09-11T20:51:33Z")
Here in the Bay Area, there were 4 international flights that landed about an hour ago. All were “escorted” in by F-16s. The CEO of the company my husband works for (~80,000 ppl) closed offices nationwide. Coincidentally, the only large building they DON’T have offices in is the WTC. My friend’s husband flew into NY from Boston today. His flight landed 5 minutes before the first crash. He’s walking out of the city to try and catch a train back to Boston. My husband spends a lot of time in NYC. He stayed home this week to celebrate my birthday (tomorrow). I’m happy we didn’t move there. My heart goes out to all of you…and **Servo** , you deserve a special hug. {{{{Servo}}}} ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/358 "2001-09-11T20:52:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \* > \*\*It was just reported on CBS, by Laura Ingraham, that Barbara Olson was among those killed at the WTC today. \*\* Clarification:CBS reports Barbara Olson was on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. Dan Rather says she called her husband to tell him the plane was being hijacked before her phone went dead. God in Heaven. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/359 "2001-09-11T20:57:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xash \* > \*\*building 7 in the wtc complex is on fire and could collapse, says CNN. but i guess there’s no risk of losing further lives as i understand the area has been evacuated… \*\* I heard one other building is likely to collapse and another possible. I would wonder if this would endanger rescue workers in the area. (Apparently a large number of police and fire personnel were iin the buildings at the time of the collapse.) ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850/360 "2001-09-11T21:04:03Z")
[slight hijack] I was just flipping through the channels to change news channels and found that QVC has suspended it’s broadcast and are instructing people to change to their news channel and call the Red Cross to find out how to help. How cool is that? Who says Americans are a bunch of unsympathetic money-grubbers? I have also heard news coverage that says New Yorkers have been kind and compassionate to each other and to the victims. Some days I’m just damn proud to be an American. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-trade-center-plane-crash/80850.md?page=19)