# Worldviews that are hard to fathom

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldviews-that-are-hard-to-fathom/667375>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 28, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldviews-that-are-hard-to-fathom/667375 "2013-08-28T05:24:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![babygoat666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@babygoat666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/babygoat666)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldviews-that-are-hard-to-fathom/667375/141 "2013-09-04T15:05:40Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> This will probably be a hot button one because there are some examples among the regulars of this board. But I can’t fathom the people who have an overwhelming hate for America - especially when it appears most of them are American.
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> I’d be the first person to agree that America is far from perfect. We’ve done a lot of bad things and are still doing some of them. But there are some people who apparently feel that every bad thing that’s ever been done in human history originated here in America.
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> Slavery? Not only did we practice it, we invented it.

I don’t believe anybody said this, unless that person was an uneducated lunatic, and why are you listening to them?

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Killing the Indians? We’re the only country in history that ever killed an enemy and took their land.

I don’t believe you that anyone said this either, or even implied it.

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> Nisei internment? The worst atrocity of World War II.

Really?

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> The Holocaust? Germans killing people but we were to blame. Saddam Hussein? Our fault somehow.

How are you not embarrassed to type this out?

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> George Bush? Worse than Hitler or Stalin.
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> Seriously, people, learn some history and get a sense of perspective.

Seriously yourself.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldviews-that-are-hard-to-fathom/667375/142 "2013-09-04T15:32:00Z")

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> [@babygoat666](#):
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> I don’t believe anybody said this, unless that person was an uneducated lunatic, and why are you listening to them?

Cuz.

> [@babygoat666](#):
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> I don’t believe you that anyone said this either, or even implied it.

Did so.

> [@babygoat666](#):
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> Really?

Really.

> [@babygoat666](#):
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> How are you not embarrassed to type this out?

Really really.

> [@babygoat666](#):
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> Seriously yourself.

No, seriously _ **yourself** _.

I think I clearly came off the winner in this exchange.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worldviews-that-are-hard-to-fathom/667375/143 "2013-09-04T15:40:06Z")

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> [@babygoat666](#):
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> Could you point your finger more directly? Besides post #4, I think you’re just conflating any criticism of U.S. foreign policy to some utterly ridiculous hyperbole.

There’s one poster who’s condemning the potential American intervention in Syria and lists countries that [we didn’t intervene](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16633831&postcount=1) in in the past as a reason to condemn American foreign policy. Then another poster condemns the American intervention in Syria and lists the countries that [we did intervene](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16633937&postcount=4) in in the past as a reason to condemn American foreign policy. And they seem to be in agreement with each other. So apparently when we don’t intervene, we’re in the wrong. And when we do intervene, we’re in the wrong.

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