# Worse plot than MGS2? (possible spoiler)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 3, 2001, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656 "2001-12-03T17:37:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mandicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Mandicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mandicus)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656/1 "2001-12-03T17:37:09Z")

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My boyfriend played through Metal Gear Solid 2 this weekend and finally finished it last night. The plot declined throughout the game, and it just lost it at the end! It wasn’t just complex, it was plain ridiculous.

I must say that I enjoyed watching Raiden do his little girly-flips in the nude. 😃

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**Author:** ![HideoHo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@HideoHo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HideoHo)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656/2 "2001-12-03T23:18:36Z")

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I thought the story was awesome, until it went completely insane near the end. Once you beat the Metal Gear Rays, it goes downhill fast. After watching the ending a few times, though, I finally understood it, but even then, it didn’t help that for the last hour of the game, you play for less than 2 minutes. There’s only so much boring blather about what you’re going to send on to your kids that you can take.

I’m working on a “Post-OP” breifing from the Patriots for my site, which I"m hoping will make the story a bit more understandable to those players that don’t have the luxury of beating the game 5 times to catch all of it.

John

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**Author:** ![Sterra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Sterra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterra)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656/3 "2001-12-04T00:30:58Z")

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> **[Penny Arcade](https://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2001-11-30&res=l)**
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> Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

Fridays Penny-arcade. Also a perfect explanation of the game.

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**Author:** ![HideoHo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@HideoHo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HideoHo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656/4 "2001-12-04T00:55:54Z")

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Actually, that’s very close to it, aside from the spores. The first Metal Gear was really a VR Hallucination back in 2300BC, and it all went downhill from there.

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**Author:** ![Chocobo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Chocobo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chocobo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2001, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worse-plot-than-mgs2-possible-spoiler/96656/5 "2001-12-04T04:22:49Z")

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Other than the end, I thought the plot was rather good. The only major quarrel I had was the you didn’t play as Snake more. Any _actual_ theories on what is going on with the Patriots.