You knew it was coming, didn’t you?
Cite?
Policy requires me to make a comment about Athena at this point. I have a headache, though, so it’s just pro forma.
<SLAPS Polycarp With Loaves & Fishes>
I’m not sure what cite or cites are appropriate, or exactly what it is that you wish to be explained by a cite. I do think, however, that we can show that Yahweh of the Old Testament was certainly preceded by far more ancient gods, gods who were worshiped before the human race itself even existed, and it certainly seems that Yahweh made claims—or perhaps claims were made for him by the more zealous of his worshipers–which serious scholarship can easily show to be false. That Yahweh was himself not by any means the oldest of all the gods, and being known only to men was certainly not the creator of the cosmos we inhabit and contemplate with dull incomprehension and fearful wonder, is amply demonstrated by the Necronomicon of the mad Arab, Abdul al Hazrad. One quote in support of this proposition is as follows:
As Yahweh is obviously a patron god only of human beings, it is clear that the Old Ones can cast aside Yahweh with as little effort as a man may kick a cat out of his way. That the Old Ones are ultimately the true masters of space and time lurking behind the very fabric of existence itself is demonstrated by yet another quote from the Necronomicon:
Given that these passages from the most ancient sources, interpreted and quoted by the deranged al Hazrad in his master work of esotericism and occultism drawing upon sources that he did not dare even name, show that Yahweh, far from being the author of all existence, is at best a minor player, it necessarily leads us to the tragic and disturbing conclusion that the followers of his revelations and word are poor wretches deceived by a lowly and insignificant deity worthy only of contempt, and of all sentient beings in all time and space are the most to pitied.
According to this performance of a “Satanic mass” performed by Coven (a '60s pop group best known for “One Tin Soldier”), the idea seems to be that Satan represents free will and personal choice as opposed to blind devotion to an arbitrary authority who says “Worship me or suffer”. Whether this is a legitimate representation of what devil-worshippers believe, or whether Coven were legitimate Satanists at all, I don’t know.
Speaking of 60s pop groups, the Stones were one that worshipped Satan and wrote SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL.
Jagger sings in the 3rd person pretending to be Lucifer who was there when Christ died.
They really believed in the devil, so did the Columbine shooters who went after Christians in the school.
Satanism and voodoims is dominant in New Orleans and many Christians including Frank Graham believed God brought Katrina along like he poured salt over Sodom and Gemorrah.
The occult is big world wide and the inverted star is one of their most powerful symbols.
Lucifer was created by God and was his most powerful angel, very handsome - not red with the horns you see pics of. Thats from middle age and mythology. Gabriel and Michael
were his other top angels. They’ve been fighting Satan ever since he revolted and fell.
He was very handsome and powerful and was the angel who found earth and God made him the guardian of it. That’s how he knew where Adam and Eve were.
Lucifer thought since God expelled him from heaven after revolting vs him and thousands of angles, God would expell man to hell too but God loved man so much he gave him a second chance thru his son who died on the cross but just as Christ had to die and rise, so would man with believers rising.
Lucifer didn’t count on that.
Believers believe that the Bible is God’s word, his letter to the Christians and to the world to explain how it was created and how it will end.
No, they didn’t.
Here’s some lyrics to the song. Mick was asked to write the song. They believed in these words.
They even hired the Hells Angels in California as body guards and many got hurt. There was always sombody that got hurt at a Stones concert.
Please allow me to introduce myself
Im a man of wealth and taste
Ive been around for a long, long year
Stole many a mans soul and faith
And I was round when jesus christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
No more than Ozzy Osbourne believes he’s a werewolf.
Everyone’s favorite of the 70s, The Eagles, also wrote songs
about Satan.
Hotel California is hell.
Note last line - everyone checks out but nobody leaves.
Writing a song about Satan does not make you a Satanist.
You do understand that, don’t you?
Here’s Keith Richards saying he is close to Satan and has even seen him several times.
Now you can stay in self denial all you want.
Keith Richards (2002): “Sympathy is quite an uplifting song. It’s just a matter of looking the Devil in the face. He’s there all the time. I’ve had very close contact with Lucifer - I’ve met him several times. Evil - people tend to bury it and hope it sorts itself out and doesn’t rear its ugly head. Sympathy for the Devil is just as appropriate now, with 9/11. There it is again, big time. When that song was written, it was a time of turmoil. It was the first sort of international chaos since World War II. And confusion is not the ally of peace and love. You want to think the world is perfect. Everybody gets sucked into that. And as America has found out to its dismay, you can’t hide. You might as well accept the fact that evil is there and deal with it any way you can. Sympathy for the Devil is a song that says, Don’t forget him. If you confront him, then he’s out of a job.” (thanks, Bertrand - Paris, France, for above 2)
:rolleyes: Do you understand the concept of a metaphor?
Bob Dylan, Madonna and Jay Z in the occult?
On the whole, I should think not. (Kabballah don’t count.)
Furthermore, you should also understand that a great many people are “in the occult” but are not Satanists by any definition but Jack Chick’s.
I said someone asked Mick to write the song.
It was the founder of the Church of Satan and
who wrote the Satanic Bible. Jagger glady accepted the request.
SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL is the anthem of the Satanic Church. See original pic of the album. Also see their symbols such as the inverted star I mentioned above.
Their other song, Satanic Magities Request leaves no doubt as to their allegiance.
Chilling stuff.
Anton Szandor LaVey asked Jagger to write “SFTD”? That would be a fascinating (and spiritually irrelevant) bit of musical history if true; but around here, you have to bring a more credible cite than . . . any you have brought so far in this thread.
The occult is big world wide but only Satanists use the inverted pentagram as their symbol.
Other occult groups use other symbols - a slew of them found here.
Many of us within the occult care little for self-styled satanists as it is a philosophy oft-generated from Christianity, which we have little regard for.
Wiccans use the pentagram – might be point-up or point-down depending on the season.
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