# Worst Bond Movie

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**Created:** [November 23, 2002, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351 "2002-11-23T16:38:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/1 "2002-11-23T16:38:44Z")

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Forty years and twenty movies later, we still go back to the theater and watch the latest superspy flick. (Let’s leave Casino Royale, as it was “unofficial”)

People have their favorites for different reasons, of course, but what’s your pick for the worst of them all? How bout in the 80s, when the series seemed to be dying a slow death?

My least-favorite of all time is **On Her Majesty’s Secret Service** (1969). Bond should never, ever, ever, ever get married. And George Lazenby? Pfffffft! It was doomed from the git-go.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/2 "2002-11-23T16:42:51Z")

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The worst? Probably…

A View To a Kill. Roger Moore was WAY too old, and Tanya Roberts was the worst actress ever to appear in a Bond film.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/3 "2002-11-23T16:44:55Z")

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Worse than Denise Richards? :eek:

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/4 "2002-11-23T17:33:52Z")

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I thought this thread was going to be ranting about Die Another Day, and I felt obligated to come in and remind the OP about Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

I’m relieved that other people hate that godawful Lazenby as much as I do.

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/5 "2002-11-23T19:23:13Z")

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Gotta agree with **astorian** on this one. “A View to a Kill” was execrable. Tanya Roberts was the worst part about it (yes, **dantheman** , worse than Denise Richards), but there were no good parts, really; even Grace Jones managed to be even more of a parody of herself than usual. And just _what_ was up with that stupid blimp finale?

Ick.

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/6 "2002-11-23T19:49:53Z")

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At least _View…_ was memorable, none of the Timothy Dalton ones were even memorable. But for simply bad, bad, bad, it has to be Lazenby and _…Secret Service_ even Diana Rigg couldn’t save it.

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**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/7 "2002-11-23T20:17:43Z")

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Since its the only true “film” of the bunch, I consider OHMSS to be the best of the series.

The worst, however, is certainly _Moonraker_.

Kirk

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**Author:** ![cleops](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@cleops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cleops)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/8 "2002-11-23T21:10:39Z")

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I have rented a couple of Bond films–For Your Eyes Only and I can’t remember the other one–but both of them had interminable underwater scenes. What the heck is that all about? And are any of those older ones GOOD?

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/9 "2002-11-23T21:22:46Z")

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The blimp finale in VTAK was pretty cool.

OHMSS was the worst. Lazenby was terrible as James Bond, and there weren’t any cool gadgets.

The tragic ending (which, even as a kid I could see coming from a mile away) is too little too late to redeem the film.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/10 "2002-11-23T21:52:05Z")

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_The World Is Not Enough_ was pathetic garbage. I truly hated it and couldn’t wait to get the fuck out of the theatre. Most of the later Roger Moore Bonds sucked out loud, as well.

FTR, I though _OHMSS_ was one of the best.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/11 "2002-11-23T22:04:49Z")

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My least favorite of the ones I’ve seen (which is most of 'em, but not all of 'em), is _Live And Let Die_. I know a lot of people disagree with me on that one, so it probably won’t win the coveted Worst Bond Film Award, but I’m sticking by it. I had to force myself to sit through to the end.

Cool theme song, though. “… to live and let die! Bam, BAM!”

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/12 "2002-11-23T22:16:32Z")

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True film, shmoo film. OHMSS was pure crap. It screwed with the character and had a blase Bond, to boot.

I’ll concede Tanya Roberts is no Hepburn, though. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/13 "2002-11-23T22:18:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by cleops \*  
> \*\*And are any of those older ones GOOD? \*\*

\*From Russia With Love

Dr. No

Goldfinger\*

These are the epitome of James Bond Glory and Wonderfulness.

I am inclined to say that any of the Roger Moore movies are the worst because I hate him so much, or _The World is Not Enough_, because of Vile Denise Richards, but I have never seen OHMSS, so I guess I can’t fairly judge.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/14 "2002-11-23T22:34:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by arisu \*  
> \*\*\*From Russia With Love
> 
> Dr. No
> 
> Goldfinger\*
> 
> These are the epitome of James Bond Glory and Wonderfulness.
> 
> I am inclined to say that any of the Roger Moore movies are the worst because I hate him so much, or _The World is Not Enough_, because of Vile Denise Richards, but I have never seen OHMSS, so I guess I can’t fairly judge. \*\*

um-You forgot [b[Thunderball\*\*

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/15 "2002-11-23T23:07:53Z")

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Gotta agree that **Moonraker** was easily the worst, folowed by **The Spy Who Loved Me** Both were written by Christopher Wod, who should never be let near a movie again. They feature Bond at his most puerile, and both feature Richard Kiel as “Jaws”. (If you, by some chance, _like_ Mr. Wood’s work, then rent **Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins** , one of the funniest Bad Films ever, as proven by the fact that he Adventure Never Continued.)

**On Her Majesty’s Secret Service** is Bad!!! It’s one of the best!! - Telly Savalas as the villain, Diana Rigg as the best Bond Gir ever, Louis Armstrong music. Lazenby wasn’t a bad Bond – he just wasn’t Connery. I’d take him over Moore any day.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/16 "2002-11-23T23:33:21Z")

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I’ve seen every movie at least a couple of times, and the good ones more than that. I agree with those who dislike Lazenby as Bond, but despite this think OHMSS is one of the better movies–certainly better than Moonraker (the original book would have made a much better movie) and A View to a Kill, which rank at the bottom of my list of Bond movies, with Moonraker marginally worse.

Great Bond:

Dr. No  
From Russia With Love  
Goldfinger  
Thunderball  
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service  
Tomorrow Never Dies  
License to Kill

Good Bond:

Live and Let Die  
For Your Eyes Only  
The Living Daylights  
Goldeneye  
The World Is Not Enough  
Die Another Day

Mediocre Bond:

You Only Live Twice  
Octopussy  
The Spy Who Loved Me

Bad Bond:

Moonraker  
A View to a Kill  
The Man with the Golden Gun  
Diamonds Are Forever

Bonds, best to worst:

Sean Connery  
Pierce Brosnan  
Timothy Dalton  
George Lazenby  
David Niven  
Barry Nelson  
Roger Moore

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2002, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/17 "2002-11-23T23:56:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 5 time champ \*  
> \*\*um-You forgot Thunderball \*\*

No, I didn’t. I was just listing the top 3 (IMO). Didn’t want it to get to crowded up there at the epitome.

Anyway, just look at **Number Six** ’s list. He’s got it right.

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**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/18 "2002-11-24T00:04:44Z")

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Interesting list, Number Six. I agree with a lot of it. Here’s mine:

Favorites:

On Her Majesty’s Secret Service  
From Russia With Love  
The Spy Who Loved Me  
Goldfinger  
The Living Daylights  
For Your Eyes Only

Okay, Not Great:

Goldeneye  
The World is Not Enough  
A View to a Kill  
Tomorrow Never Dies  
You Only Live Twice  
Thunderball  
Live and Let Die  
Octopussy

I’ll Watch Them, But Only Because They’re Bond:

Dr. No  
License to Kill  
Diamonds Are Forever  
The Man With the Golden Gun

The Unwatchable:

Moonraker  
Connery is my favorite Bond, Lazenby is underrated, and I maintain that he would have gotten better once audiences got used to him, Moore is something of an ass-clown, but had some gems during his tenure, Dalton was uneven, and Brosnan’s Bond is very undefined – I can’t characterize it. After three films, he doesn’t have “his” Bond yet.

We’ll see where Die Another Day ends up in all this. I’m seeing it tomorrow.

Kirk

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/19 "2002-11-24T00:16:32Z")

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Another OHMSS. Lazenby wasn’t much of an actor, it’s true (he never quite managed to hide his Ozzie accent, for one thing), but physically he was perfect for the role. And the rest of the movie around him was wonderful: brilliant musical score, great pacing, something resembling a real sense of danger and emotion, Diana Rigg, Diana Rigg, Diana Rigg…

Sorry, got stuck there.

Oh, but this was about the worst. Easy, had to have Roger Moore, had to have an utterly pointless plot, be grotesque beyond measure, had to lack any sense of style or flash; yep, that would be _Man With the Golden Gun_, then.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-bond-movie/138351/20 "2002-11-24T00:52:06Z")

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We all seem to be forgetting, perhaps on purpose, **Never Say Never Again**. How any James Bond film starring Sean Connery could be that horrible is beyond me.

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