** Battlefield Earth ** was actually a pretty fun book.
If you’ve ever read ** The Power of One ** (and you should), and seen the movie (and I couldn’t last longer than 15 minutes), then you know true butchery.
But if they are giving out awards, it’s hard not to vote for ** Simon Burch. ** * A Prayer for Owen Meany * might be my favorite book of all time…a masterpiece. The fact that John Irving begged them to change the name and remove his from it says everything we needed to know. (Does anyone have an explanation for why they screwed it up so badly? Why they missed the whole friggin’ * point? * )
I have to take this moment for ** best ** movie from book: Sophie’s Choice. It’s like they filmed the inside of my head.
I would have to say one of the worst conversions from book to movie would have to be the above mentioned novel by Umberto Eco. However, I think the end result was one of those cases of, as a movie alone it was a good peice of film, but when viewed with the context of the novel it was a pale reflection of the original story.
The movie itself, I felt, was a very good thriller/mystery. The novel however was much broader in scope with the mystery elements used more as background to the philosophical elements of the story. Anyway, all I really wanted to say was that I thought the book was good, I thought that the movie was good, but I thought that the movie as film adaptation of the novel sucked royal.
Jurassic Park and Lost World,
After the butchered the first movie, the 2nd one was so far off the book, it wasn’t even close. Granted the first movie was enjoyable, I thought the books were so much better.
I’m very upset about Disney’s “Hunchback of Notre Dame.” I understand that the real story couldn’t be a kids’ movie, but it was a bizarre choice for a kids’ movie.
Take out all of the sex, turn Phoebus into a hero, and make everyone live happily ever after? A whole generation of young people are going to read Hugo’s novel for the first time and get a rather rude surprise.
You are so right about First Blood. I have seen a paperback copy from before the movie came out that promotes it as a horror story. In the book, the sheriff is a good man, and more or less the hero; in the movie he is a jackass and more or less the villain.
I find it amusing that the authour was supposedly trying to parralell a season in hell hence Rambo/Rimbeaud. What do you want to bet Stallone knew that?
Nobody answered the question about where to find The Cold Equations. Among other places, it’s in the anthology The Science Fiction Hall of Fame (and rightly so).
I saw the SciFi channel version of it, and agree that the woman dies in the end, as in the story – they didn’t cop. But the whole conspiracy thing wasn’t necessary, even to “flesh out” (or pad out) the story. I haven’t seen the Twilight Zone version of it. I think there may be yet another version of it (possibly made for British V) that I have not seen.
Second:
I agree that the circa 1987 version of Nightfall is an abomination. There has been another version o it recently, which I haven’t seen (I think it went direct to video/DVD. My local Blockbuster has a copy I haven’ ented yet).
Analog magazine once released an audio adaptation of Nightfall. It was their first audio release. Also, I understand, their last. I dubbed a copy from a friend’s LP, and it’s pretty good.
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I liked the adaptation of The Name of the Rose. It could have been done a LOT worse. I’m surprised how much of the book (a pretty hefty tome itself) actually made it into the final film.
Nobody answered the question about where to find The Cold Equations. Among other places, it’s in the anthology The Science Fiction Hall of Fame (and rightly so).
I saw the SciFi channel version of it, and agree that the woman dies in the end, as in the story – they didn’t cop. But the whole conspiracy thing wasn’t necessary, even to “flesh out” (or pad out) the story. I haven’t seen the Twilight Zone version of it. I think there may be yet another version of it (possibly made for British V) that I have not seen.
Second:
I agree that the circa 1987 version of Nightfall is an abomination. There has been another version o it recently, which I haven’t seen (I think it went direct to video/DVD. My local Blockbuster has a copy I haven’ ented yet).
Analog magazine once released an audio adaptation of Nightfall. It was their first audio release. Also, I understand, their last. I dubbed a copy from a friend’s LP, and it’s pretty good.
Third:
I liked the adaptation of The Name of the Rose. It could have been done a LOT worse. I’m surprised how much of the book (a pretty hefty tome itself) actually made it into the final film.
There are a lot of daptations worse han this. Ninteenth century authors of fantastic fiction have gotten the worst of it. Almost anything by Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Jules Verne, or H.P. Lovecraft (I know he isn’t 19th century, but he writes like it, dammit!) is almost guaranteed to be awful. Look at From the Earth to the Moon for a typical example. Mark Twain’s A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthuer’ Court, ne ofmy Twain favorites, has been filmed numerous times. Not one version has come anything close to being faithful. One version was a howcase for Will Rogers, another a showcase for Bing Crosby. Other versions that might have been faithful were, I think, scared off by Twain’s blunt comments on the Catholic Church.
Dude, how weird is this? That movie is the first that came to my mind when I saw the thread title, even though I only saw it once when I was 8 or 9. That was one of my favorite books (I still think it’s great) and I was pissed. And so began my lifelong disgust with the motion picture industry…
To give you an idea of how bad this 1988 production of Nightfall was:
There was another version of Nightfall released just last year. I have watched this 2000 production of Nightfall on DVD. It was produced by Roger Corman – the same man who gave us such B-movie dreck as It Conquered the World – and it was still better than the 1988 production was!!
How about Mellinnium? A great book by John Varley (one of my favorite novels of all time, actually) mutates into a horrible, horrible, horrible movie starring Kris Kristopherson and Cheryl Ladd. And I think Varley even had a writing credit, so he’s got no one to blame but himself.
A well-reasoned and well-argued point of view. I disagree.
If a screenplay is going to use the title, characters, setting, etc. of a book, then I believe it has an obligation to be as faithful to the book as possible, accounting for the differences between cinema and literature. If the writer, director or producer’s vision, however, is to give the story a happy ending, focus on a minor character, make the love story gay instead of straight or vice versa, etc. then for God’s sake, give it a different name, change a few other details around and don’t try to sucker people who loved the book into “yeah, but here’s how I would have written the story”!!!
Absolutely! I think it is an ethical rather than a legal obligation to at minimum change the title in some way.
However, David Morrell, who wrote the (outstanding)novel “First Blood”, might himself disagree. According to a story I read, when he sold his rights to the film version he nearly sold away rights to the whole Rambo series. Because he never imagined that his psychotic drifter (who is killed in the novel) would be rewritten into a hero with a lifespan of several films, he nearly sold away all rights to the character. His lawyer advised him to retain future rights, and he’s made millions from that revision. I’ve never seen anything about his personal opinion of the Rambo movies, but it certainly launched his carreer. Quite a few of his novels have been filmed, none of them as badly mangled as “First Blood” was.
He retained rights to the future use of the “Rambo” character on the advice of his lawyer, though
I know it doesn’t really fit because it derives from Maxwell Anderson’s play, but any mention of butchery must pay tribute to Hollywood’s reverse 3 1/2 somersault onto the pavement that is the conclusion of the film The Bad Seed.
It still brings tears of joy to my eyes when the notorious “second ending” wallows across the screen like a wounded elephant seal. It really does.
Agreed. “Where the Heart is” sucked hard for reasons that had nothing to do with changing the number “5” to “7”.
My vote goes to the Leo DiCaprio version of “The Basketball Diaries”. Jim Carroll asked that they not make it “fucked up and preachy and stuff”, the director said he wouldn’t do so, and guess what? They did anyway! Not to mention that Leo and Marky Mark as heroin-shooting basketball players required a suspension of disbelief that I just couldn’t hack.