# Worst Christmas movie- sacred & secular (SPOILERS)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 2, 2002, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974 "2002-12-02T16:29:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/41 "2002-12-07T17:43:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whistlepig \*  
> \*\*But you have to enjoy the life-size Pia Zadora! And the Martians from the “Ed Wood School of Dramatic Acting”! \*\*

Enjoy 😕 Enjoy 😕

I am more likely to refer to that _ **movie** _ as the thing that unleashed her on an unsuspecting world.

[sub]Of course, YMMV 😛 [/sub]

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/42 "2002-12-07T17:53:23Z")

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I just watched _It’s Christmas Time again Charlie Brown_.  
There is a good reason you may not have ever heard of this as it is pure crapola from Crapopolis.

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**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/43 "2002-12-07T18:24:07Z")

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Does _Rudolph’s Bright, Shiney New Year_ count? Wasn’t that something absymal? ☹

And _Nestor, the Long-Eared Donkey_ wasn’t too bad, but when the red-headed, blue-eyed Mother Mary showed up! Made me want to scratch out my eyes!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/44 "2002-12-08T00:01:14Z")

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i couldn’t stand to watch more than two minutes of a christmas story.  
also, george c scott (great actor) really sucked as scrooge. it made his life of mussolini shine in comparison!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/45 "2002-12-11T23:57:25Z")

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WAIT! hold it! i forgot to add the marlo thomas/cloris leachman version of a christmas carol. i think that it tops all of the others.

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**Author:** ![alexandria2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f1d935/32.png) [@alexandria2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandria2000)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/46 "2002-12-12T00:05:47Z")

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Oh, god. T’was the Night Before Christmas. Never have I wanted to defenestrate cute little mice before. I avoid any airings of that each holiday season.

Can we also count that animated flick about the troll who becomes a house-elf or whatever through the Power of Good ™ and a reading of the biblical Christmas Story. The kids in the house read it to him after he ran away from the troll caverns because he didn’t want to be mean. Or something. Or other.  
Or at least that’s what I recall of it. Can’t remember the name of it, and I don’t want to. It was so cloying I sat and watched it out of sheer shock.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/47 "2002-12-12T14:58:07Z")

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handsomeharry- ACTUALLY, you mean the Marlo Thomas/Cloris Leachman/ORSON WELLES version of IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE- titled IT  
HAPPENED ONE CHRISTMAS.

I quite liked it- of course, I somehow saw it years before I actually saw IT’S A WONDERFUL LIFE & haven’t seen it since, so I may not enjoy it as much, tho I bet it’ll stand up for me.

Btw, does anyone recall an early 1970’s animated version of A CHRISTMAS CAROL which was quite ornate, authentic & built around 19th Century illustrations (I’m thinking Arthur Rackham’s work but I can’t swear to that)? I would love to get a copy of that!

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/48 "2002-12-12T19:10:29Z")

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> Btw, does anyone recall an early 1970’s animated version of A CHRISTMAS CAROL which was quite ornate, authentic & built around 19th Century illustrations

Yes, I do. The animator was Richard Williams (who later oversaw the cartoon sequences in _Who Framed Roger Rabbit?_) and featured the voice Alastair Sim–who played Scrooge in the 1951 film version–repeating his role. I haven’t seen it in awhile but I do remember the style of animation was like Victorian illustrations brought to life.

And, here’s [the link](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0068373).

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/49 "2002-12-24T18:17:58Z")

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I had seen that IMDB entry but I wasn’t sure from the cover pic if that was the animated A C’MAS CAROL I recalled. Thanks for the confirmation.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/50 "2002-12-24T18:49:41Z")

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There was a “Christmas Carol” movie called “Ebby” with Susan Lucci as a female version of Ebenezar Scrooge, set in present times. I didn’t watch it, I mean come on.

I did, however, watch Vanessa Williams’ turn as Ebony Scrooge in a VH1 movie, the name of which I can’t remember right now. But the thing about this one was that it was subtlely camp. It didn’t quite take itself seriously, and that made it a little more fun.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/51 "2002-12-24T19:17:12Z")

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**cuauhtemoc** , that was “A Diva’s Christmas Carol”

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/52 "2002-12-25T04:22:15Z")

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Have we all forgotten the _Star Wars Holiday Special_??

Long ago someone posted a link to it here, but sadly I did not bookmark it, so I can’t share the horror with all of you. However, there’s a review of it here, and the sidebar says it can be purchased from [amazon.com](http://amazon.com).

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**Author:** ![Vanyel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Vanyel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vanyel)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/53 "2002-12-25T05:39:37Z")

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Well, I really hate _A Christmas Story_, and I dislike _It’s a Wonderful Life_ (since it isn’t).

However, [classic Mexican flick](http://www.jabootu.com/acolytes/brandiweed/santa.htm) _[Santa Claus](http://www.dapcentral.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=MasterList2&file=index&show=1&ep=0521&func=detail)_ is bearable only for having been MSTed.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2002, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-christmas-movie-sacred-secular-spoilers/139974/54 "2002-12-25T09:02:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FriarTed \*  
> \*\*I was watching the MST3K version of it & Santa when revving up his sleigh (with robotic reindeer?!?!) says something like “May Jesus the Son of God be with us” - and Joel & Bots talk about the weird theology of the movie \*\*

[nitpick] The Mexican Santa Claus movie was a Mike episode. [/nitpick]

No, no, Lupita!

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