# Worst dubbing ie butchering of a movie for TV to cut out foul language or adult stuff **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 30, 2002, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683 "2002-06-30T08:15:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/41 "2002-07-01T06:55:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fionn \* > \*\*However, the most mind-boggling instance of censorship I’ve seen was during the scene where Jim’s dad shows him the porno mags. The original line is “Do you know what a clitoris is?” In the edited version, it’s “Do you know what a climax is?” > > \*\* What? WHAT?! If you feel you should cut out a sexually related word, for what ever stupid reason, then cut it out. But to REPLACE clitoris with climax, what, um, climax is still dirty but clitoris is DIRTIER?..can only be some sort of twisted misogyny. Freak you, TV people. Freak all of you. ---
**Author:** ![BalmainBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@BalmainBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BalmainBoy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/42 "2002-07-01T07:05:32Z")
At last! I can use my list of Actual English Subtitles Used In Hong Kong Films - I am darn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. - Fatty, you with your thick face have hurt my instep. - Gun wounds again? - Same old rules: no eyes, no groin. - A normal person wouldn’t steal pituitaries. - Darn, I’ll burn you into a BBQ chicken - Take my advice, or I’ll spank you a lot. - Who gave you the nerve to get killed here? - This will be of fine service for you, you bag of the scum. I am sure you will not mind that I remove your toenails and leave them out on the dessert floor for ants to eat. - Quiet or I’ll blow your throat up. - I’ll fire aimlessly if you don’t come out! - You daring lousy guy. - Beat him out of recognizable shape! - Yah-hah, evil spider woman! I have captured you by the short rabbits and can now deliver you violently to your doctor for a thorough extermination. - I have been scared silly too much lately. - I got knife scars more than the number of your leg’s hair! - Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. - The bullets inside are very hot. Why do I feel so cold? - How can you use my intestines as a gift? - Greetings, large black person. Let us not forget to form a team up together and go into the country to inflict the pain of our karate feats on some but of the giant lizard person. - You always use violence. I should’ve ordered glutinous rice chicken. ---
**Author:** ![QueenAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/d26b3c/32.png) [@QueenAl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QueenAl)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/43 "2002-07-01T09:38:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BalmainBoy \* > \*\* > > - A normal person wouldn’t steal pituitaries. > > - I’ll fire aimlessly if you don’t come out! > > - How can you use my intestines as a gift? > > \*\* Hahahaha! The second one sounds like it’s from Austin Powers (I’m sure it’s not, but it’s the kind of line they’d use), the other two sound like Tarantinoisms! ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/44 "2002-07-01T13:53:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by widdershins \* > \*\ ***LurkMeister** , have you seen _Cinderella Liberty_ with James Caan? Another Navy movie from the early 70s, they’re both based on novels by the same author. > > The version they show on AMC isn’t as bad as the dubbing in _The Last Detail_, but a few scenes come close. \*\* I had seen _Cinderella Liberty_ in the theater when it first came out; don’t think I ever caught an AMC broadcast of it. Don’t remember why I had seen _Cinderella Liberty_ but missed _The Last Detail_, although I was in college at the time and it may have been a matter of what my schedule was like when they were showing. I liked _Cinderella Liberty_; I’ll have to dig up the author’s name (I’m sure it’s listed at [imdb.com](http://imdb.com)) and see if I can find any copies of his books. [sub]Just what I need - more books to add to my slush pile[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Osakadave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f07891/32.png) [@Osakadave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osakadave)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/45 "2002-07-01T15:13:55Z")
A general dubbing/sub-titleing screw up from English to Japanese is to translate the swear words to completely innocuos japanese words, with “yappari” (loosely, “of course”) being about the most popular. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/46 "2002-07-01T15:28:32Z")
In Major League, when the old pitcher (Crisco arm) drinks the rum that Cerrano has left out for Jobu, he says “Up your butt, jobu”. The TV version- “Up your [bucket] Jobu” Apparently, “butt” is a dirty word now. The Breakfast Club is a good one too. “I don’t think I need to habg around with you [stinking dummies] anymore” when you can clearly see Bender saying f—ing dildos. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/47 "2002-07-01T15:33:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by El Elvis Rojo \* > \*\*[My personal favorite is in **Ferris Buller’s Day Off** , when he’s talking about Cameron: > \*\* I prefer the one about cameron’s car. foggy memory version: “Yeah, I called your car a piece of …tin. I don’t even have a piece of …tin. I have to bum a ride in your piece of …tin.” The most annoying I’ve heard is Planes, Trains and Automobiles. “And I really don’t care for the way your company left me in the middle of … nowhere with … keys to a … car that isn’t … there. And I really didn’t care to … walk down a … highway and across a … runway to get back here to have you smile at my … face. I want a … car RIGHT … NOW!” ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Baroo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/76d3ee/32.png) [@Billy\_Baroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Baroo)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/48 "2002-07-01T16:05:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fionn \* > \*\*I watched _American Pie_ edited for TV a short while back. “She’s a MILF-Mom I’d Like to Feel!” “We’re going to get lucky!” All in all, it wasn’t horribly damaged by the editing. > \*\* I for one was traumatized by the _American Pie_ edit. The big payoff for the “This one time, at band camp…” - gone. Nadia nudity - gone. Pie penetration - gone. It made me want the DVD just to get back to the raunch. So I had to do what I do when I want to exercise: lay down until the urge passed. The one that came to mind when I read the thread title was _Quick Change._ All the usage of “fucking” was changed to “Viking.” It made for some truly odd epithets. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/49 "2002-07-01T16:27:33Z")
I’m glad this topic is here. I have a semi-related question. SUBTITLE EDITING. I watched Das Boot yesterday and it was a few minutes before I realized I needed to change the darn thing to German Language with English Subtitles (the default is English Dubbing). And the dubbing seemed cleaned up. In the opening bar scene, the Lt. reports to the captain that his car was pissed on. The English subtitle says it correctly, but the dubbing notes he was “initiated.” What’s up with that? As for the topic at hand, I saw Coming to America once on TV, and the barbershop scenes where HILARIOUS! The best one was when Eddie Murphy calls a boxer “One bad Mammer Jammer!” I also saw Get Shorty on a plane. Dennis Farino’s scenes are a riot. I mean, they are funny to begin with, but he announciates his F words so well that it is clear to EVERYONE but the BLIND what he is really saying. I think they should just bleep them. THe dubbing makes scenes comical that should not be (like in LA Confidential). If they aren’t going to bleep them, they should take a page from the Simpsons. In the WTC episode, Homer calls the number to get the boot off his car. There is this nice voice doing the general message, and this gruff voice (Officer Grabowski or something like that) that fills in the information. IF we are to suffer dubbing, I think it should be that guy doing the voiceovers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/50 "2002-07-01T18:16:55Z")
Valley Girl: The Elizabeth Daily character (she’s the voice of Rugrats and Babe Pig in the City) has a nude scene with her friend’s ex-boyfriend, Tommy. She tells Tommy if they go any further, she has to be his girlfriend, which makes him get up and leave, saying what a bad friend she was to his old girlfriend. The cut shows them start to making out in the bedroom, then him leaving the room, suggesting they had sex, when that didn’t happen. It changed the whole outcome of the scene and the interactions the girls had with each other later. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/51 "2002-07-01T18:40:50Z")
My vote is always for _The Breakfast Club_ – apart from the memorable “Forget you!” theme, there’s the most mysterious dubbing ever: “Eat my shorts” changed to “Eat my socks”. What the bloody blue fudge is _that_ about? Since my first exposure to that wonderful bit of eighties trifle was the edited-for-television version, I naturally assumed that there was something really nasty implied, and “reconstructed” the line into an invitation to copraphagy. “Eat my shorts.” Gasp! Why, that young man _might_ be unhygenic enough to have _skidmarks_, which is too obscene to allow even the _possibility_ of such an inference. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/52 "2002-07-01T18:41:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by watsonwil \* > \*\*If they aren’t going to bleep them, they should take a page from the Simpsons. In the WTC episode, Homer calls the number to get the boot off his car. There is this nice voice doing the general message, and this gruff voice (Officer Grabowski or something like that) that fills in the information. IF we are to suffer dubbing, I think it should be that guy doing the voiceovers. \*\* “Your plea has been **rejected.** You will be charged the standard fine plus a small **large lateness penalty**. Please wait by your car between the hours of 9:00am and 5:00pm for Traffic Officer Steve **Grabowski.** ” One of my favorite lines from the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/53 "2002-07-01T19:57:20Z")
The first time I saw Chinatown was on network TV, back in the days before VCR’s were common. For years, I thought it was a very cool, very stylish, and completely unintelligable film. It wasn’t until many years later, when I saw it on HBO, that I realized that Faye Dunaway explains half the plot in a scene – excised from the broadcast version – during which her nipple plays peek-a-boo with the frame. The **best** editing job I’ve ever seen was Amazon Women on the Moon, the mid-80’s sketch comedy film with Arsenio Hall and David Allen Grier as Don “No Soul” Simmons. In one of the major bits, we follow a men’s magazine centerfold through her day in Los Angeles. The joke is that she’s just as naked walking around town as she was in her photo shoot. I saw it on network once, and was pleasantly surprised to see that they had reshot the entire scene with the actress in some skimpy lingerie so they could run an edited version on TV. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Phoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Dragon\_Phoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragon_Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/54 "2002-07-02T01:01:23Z")
In Singapore, they just screened Carrie on TV. Censored of course. The whole essential scene where she has her first menstruation and gets teased by her classmates was simply cut out. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Spoonbender](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spoonbender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoonbender)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/55 "2002-07-02T01:51:08Z")
Anybody else remember this? IIRC, the network TV broadcast of “The Untouchables” had this head-scratcher: **Original line:** “Isn’t that just like a whop? Brings a knife to a gunfight. _(Connery chases knife-wielding thug out of his house)_ Get out of here, you dago bastard!” **Dubbed line:** “Isn’t that just like a whop? Brings a knife to a gunfight. _(Connery chases knife-wielding thug out of his house)_ Get out of here, you…bastard!” So, “whop” and “bastard” are all right but “dago” isn’t? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/56 "2002-07-02T02:01:06Z")
For the record, the “One Mean Motorscooter” line is George Clooney’s, in “From Dusk Till Dawn”, and it’s the REAL line. A great one, too, if you ask me. It was part of his character’s quirky humor. The worst savaging of a movie I ever saw was “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”, on TBS. Not only was all the profanity cut out, but so were all of the drug references, AND the entire abortion sub-plot. And when Damone’s car and locker were sprayed with graffiti? Digitally altered to say “Pig”. Which is even more incomprehensible since they cut out everything that could have possibly made Stacy mad at him. I found this all to be triply-offensive because the whole abortion plot was an actual morality play, showing kids the trouble they could get into with casual sex. Better censor THAT… Remember the part where Spicoli smacks himself in the head with his running show, then says to his buddy on the phone, “Hear that? That’s my skull! I am so wasted!”? That was a hilarious bit. In the ‘edited’ version, Spicoli picks up his shoe, and smacks himself in the head with it multiple times. That’s it. Anyone who had never seen the original movie would be going, “What the hell was THAT all about???” ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/57 "2002-07-02T03:36:24Z")
I was on a flight a few years back and they showed the Ben Affleck/Sandra Bullock movie “Forces of Nature”. The setup for the whole movie is that there is some kind of incident on the plane he’s taking to his wedding. Well, you can’t show plane incidents on a movie shown on a plane. A smart airline would just not show the movie at all. This airline just cut a 10 minute section of the plot out of the middle, and jumped from the plane, perfectly normal, to a crowded airport full of disgruntled passengers. I’m still not sure what happened during that crucial gap. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/58 "2002-07-02T10:01:20Z")
There was some French film in the sixties, wherein the main character goes off on some other guy. His mouth is going a mile a minute, and the subtitle says, **Go away!** ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/59 "2002-07-02T13:00:30Z")
SmackFu reminded me of another thing about Get Shorty shown on the plane. Instead of a Plane crash to set up the dry cleaner subplot, they changed it to a train wreck. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2002, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683/60 "2002-07-02T14:47:25Z")
Every time I see **Blazing Saddles** on TV, the n-word is still in there. Of course, they changed the line “Up yours, n----r!” to “Get lost, n----r!” That one always cracked me up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-dubbing-ie-butchering-of-a-movie-for-tv-to-cut-out-foul-language-or-adult-stuff/116683.md?page=4)