# Worst movie of the century so far? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [May 14, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420 "2022-05-14T17:36:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/41 "2022-05-17T01:56:10Z")
I agree, and I’m Christian. Also, a lot of the “entertainment” made by “Christians” is deliberately bland, so as not to offend anyone. This “Christian” movie is one of the all-time IMDB bombs. > **[C Me Dance (2009) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1314645/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)** > > C Me Dance: Directed by Greg Robbins. With Christina DeMarco, Greg Robbins, Laura Romeo, Hugh McLean. A drama centered on a teenage girl who has trained her entire life to dance for the Pittsburgh Ballet. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/42 "2022-05-17T02:18:15Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I liked that movie. It was weird and cerebral and ambitious, and while it didn’t really work, I respected the attempt. Seconded. Pretty decent soundtrack, too. I’ll take weird, cerebral movies that don’t quite achieve greatness over movies that are boring and unambitious any day (and FTW, I liked Upstream Color as well). No, it’s not a _2001_ or a _Solaris_. But it was a legitimate attempt. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/43 "2022-05-17T18:15:44Z")
John Jerimiah Sullivan wrote a hilarious and insightful essay on why Christian Rock is so mediocre called [Upon This Rock](https://www.gq.com/story/rock-music-jesus) that I love on this topic. > [@Sullivan](#): > > The fact that I didn’t think I heard a single interesting bar of music from the forty or so acts I caught or overheard at Creation shouldn’t be read as a knock on the acts themselves, much less as contempt for the underlying notion of Christians playing rock. These were not _Christian_ bands, you see; these were _Christian rock_ bands. The key to digging this scene lies in that one syllable distinction. Christian rock is a genre that exists to edify and make money off of evangelical Christians. > … > If you think it profoundly sucks, that’s because your priorities are not its priorities; you want to hear something cool and new, it needs to play something proven to please…while praising Jesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/44 "2022-05-17T18:42:34Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > … Christian Rock is so mediocre. Excellent article, made me pull out some old vinyl from before the Corporatization of “Christian Rock” (read up on Myrrh Records… phew!). So, to perhaps close out this tangent, here’s John Michael Talbot and brother Terry. You can listen to the album (they start out with a great Little Feat cover), but this is cued up to their reminder of how we treated the natives here, on the “Trail of Tears”… (with, yep, David Lindley on 'Hawaiian Guitar"). [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SoZunEhqf8s/maxresdefault.jpg "The Talbot Bros -The Talbot Bros (1974) (Full Album)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZunEhqf8s&t=720) ---
**Author:** ![Reno\_Nevada\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecc23a/32.png) [@Reno\_Nevada\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reno_Nevada_Jr)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/45 "2022-05-17T19:02:20Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Christian movies are almost all bad because of the same reasons Christian music is currently overall bad. As far as I know, the reason all _Christian movies_ suck is because if you set out to make one, and it turned out, you know, _good_, you would release it not as a _Christian movie_ but as a _movie_. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/46 "2022-05-17T19:09:33Z")
> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#): > > why Christian Rock is so mediocre “Can’t you see you’re not making Christianity better? You’re just making rock-and-roll worse.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gZzdqTY-aKw/hqdefault.jpg "King Of The Hill: Rock And Roll Worse") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZzdqTY-aKw) ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/47 "2022-05-17T19:19:58Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I used to work for a Christian organization. And this was number one on my list of “Why We Suck”… you’d get people who would never be supervising in the secular world, but they were the best the Christians could find. > > So I immediately apply that to Christian media as well: “Okay, considering they had the producer’s minister write the script, his Sunday School kids helped build the sets… and a guy who’d been a grip on the “Left Behind” series was cinematographer…” One thing I find fascinating about the Christian movie industry and its various facets (inspirational sports stories, “we’re being persecuted!” hysterical screeds, vaguely anti-semitic apocalypse SF, African American gospel choir competitions…) is when folks you wouldn’t necessarily expect show up in them. I know Ray Wise from _Twin Peaks_, _Robocop_, and I know he played the Devil in a show called _Reaper_. Then I saw he was in the first _God’s Not Dead_ sequel and I was wondering…does he ascribe to that filmmaker’s philosophy? Kevin Sorbo, sure, he’s a right-wing dumbass troll in real life and exclusively makes those kinds of movies now, but Leland Palmer? I always wonder how much a paycheck player actor just shrugs and says “a gig’s a gig.” I feel the same way about the various well-known folks who acted in the _Atlas Shrugged_ trilogy. They can’t all be Objectivists, can they? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/48 "2022-05-17T19:39:15Z")
Sometimes, as in the case of Jamie Kennedy, in [Roe v Wade](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade_(film)) from 2012, [they don’t know until it’s underway.](https://www.indiewire.com/2021/04/jamie-kenney-roe-v-wade-anti-abortion-film-1234627867/amp/) “He said that many crew members walked off the production once they became aware of the movie’s true intentions. “People would walk mid-fuckin’-stream and say, ‘I didn’t know it was going to be this,’ and that’s not good,” he said.” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/49 "2022-05-17T19:42:36Z")
> [@Reno\_Nevada\_Jr](#): > > > [@Mahaloth](#): > > > > Christian movies are almost all bad because of the same reasons Christian music is currently overall bad. > > As far as I know, the reason all _Christian movies_ suck is because if you set out to make one, and it turned out, you know, _good_ , you would release it not as a _Christian movie_ but as a _movie_ . For an obvious example, take _[Ben-Hur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben-Hur_(1959_film))_ (the 1959 version). It was a success, commercially, critically and at the Academy Awards. It’s explicitly a Christian story. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/50 "2022-05-17T21:32:48Z")
> [@veryfrank](#): > > I always wonder how much a paycheck player actor just shrugs and says “a gig’s a gig.” I can’t remember the specific names, but I heard once of an up-and-coming hot new actor asking some revered elder how to avoid getting typecast, and the answer the old actor gave was to accept every role you’re ever offered, no matter what it is. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/51 "2022-05-17T21:33:53Z")
Sir John Gielgud appeared in _Caligula._ Nuff Said. * * * The late Mrs. CaptMurdock and I rented the 2002 remake of _Rollerball._ Didn’t even finish it. And considering how she money-conscious she was (rest her soul) and she loathed not fully watching any movie we shelled out bucks to rent from Blockbuster… ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/52 "2022-05-17T21:56:51Z")
> [@Reno\_Nevada\_Jr](#): > > As far as I know, the reason all _Christian movies_ suck is because if you set out to make one, and it turned out, you know, _good_ , you would release it not as a _Christian movie_ but as a _movie_ . Silence from Martin Scorsese is basically a Christian movie and would never have been made by the Christian movie industry. I think it is the best movie about faith I’ve ever seen. Also his best movie. I’d like to see a Christian movie industry movie with a scene like this: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SEzrTYKabwI/maxresdefault.jpg "Silence (2016) - Kichijiro's Confession Scene (2/10) | Movieclips") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEzrTYKabwI) ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/53 "2022-05-17T22:10:11Z")
[The Oogieloves](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_oogieloves_in_the_big_balloon_adventure). ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/54 "2022-05-17T22:43:19Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Silence from Martin Scorsese is basically a Christian movie and would never have been made by the Christian movie industry. I think it is the best movie about faith I’ve ever seen. Also his best movie. _The Last Temptation of Christ_ also comes from a place of deep faith (maybe Kazantzakis’ more than Scorsese’s, but still) and split religious groups in terms of their reaction to it. _Jesus of Montreal_ is a brilliant movie about religion and faith, one of my absolute favorite films and I say that as an atheist. I’d be really curious to see what the audiences that flock to modern Christian movies would make of it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/55 "2022-05-17T22:50:27Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **Saving Christmas** For a minute I read that as “Skipping Christmas” (aka Christmas with the Kranks) and I agreed, Then I looked it up. Jesus! I agree even more. > [@veryfrank](#): > > _The Last Temptation of Christ_ I roll my eyes in their general direction! They were upset that the titular temptation was for Jesus to run off and get married. And _have sex!_ But seriously, people! What do you temp the son of god with? It isn’t like he wants a better TV, more money, power. What can you get for the guy that has literally everything? No, what you temp him with is the chance to escape his destiny. Now that’s temptation! ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/56 "2022-05-18T00:37:35Z")
Many years ago i started a thread about the post-Revelations horror movies our church made us watch, and no one seemed to know what I was talking about. Is that what y’all mean by Christian movies? Oh and _Battleship Earth_ is entertaining as hell. And **Dogville** _worked_. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/57 "2022-05-18T02:26:58Z")
Are you talking about those movies, like “A Thief In The Night”, that were made in the mid 1970s? I grew up in Des Moines, where the filmmakers were headquartered, and they were mostly shot in and around that area. There was a low-power station in my old town that sometimes showed them, and other similar movies. My other favorite band in the early 1990s was the prog/metal band King’s X, who were not a Christian band but rather a band made up of Christians. At some point, the quality of their music declined drastically and I stopped following them, but their early material is terrific. This was their first video that I know of. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/J2SYPzKzD94/maxresdefault.jpg "King's X - Over My Head (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2SYPzKzD94) This is probably the closest thing they had to a hit single; when my sister first saw the video, she asked me if they were a Christian band; my response was “I think so, but they don’t really advertise it” and she replied, “I had wondered - three men standing together on a mountaintop.” [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rzEPkbPgdn0/hqdefault.jpg "King's X - It's Love (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzEPkbPgdn0) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/58 "2022-05-18T06:35:27Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Sir John Gielgud appeared in _Caligula._ Nuff Said. To be fair, the _Caligula_ [that was released](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula_(film)#Post-production) was not the _Caligula_ that Gielgud (and Mirren, and McDowell, and O’Toole) thought they were filming. Also, Gielgud was hardly a prude. He did _Prospero’s Books_ as well. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/59 "2022-05-18T08:12:58Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > To be fair, the _Caligula_ [that was released](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula_(film)#Post-production) was not the _Caligula_ that Gielgud (and Mirren, and McDowell, and O’Toole) thought they were filming. The others I’ll give you, but McDowell? Considering some of the stuff you see him do, I think he knew _exactly_ what sort of film he was in. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420/60 "2022-05-18T08:45:48Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > The Room deserves some credit: > > [1 Brilliant Moment of Overlooked Brilliance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuBc3jW-DrE&ab_channel=CineFix-IGNMoviesandTV). While this link plays it straight for most of it, it does end with the words “April Foolish” so all a joke… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-movie-of-the-century-so-far/964420.md?page=4)