# Worst Nazi and Soviet Communist **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047 "2010-11-18T00:56:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/21 "2010-11-18T16:56:18Z")
Though providing a sensible answer to this is difficult, and I don’t claim to be talking of the “worst” in any sense here, but I have always thought there is a special spot in hell reserved for Goering. Goering, it appears, wasn’t anti-semitic. He had no particular issue with Jews, but was willing to involve himself in the Shoah for personal advancement and getting bright shiny things to collect. Thinking the Jews are the downfall fo Germany and must be destroyed is odious. Knowing that’s bullshit, but being willing to commit genocide to get better seats at the opera? That’s a whole new level of depravity. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/22 "2010-11-18T18:27:25Z")
Why don’t you deal with unanswered questions from previous threads before opening new ones? ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/23 "2010-11-18T18:50:02Z")
I don’t think there were any Communists who were Nazi _and_ Soviet. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/24 "2010-11-18T18:50:34Z")
Another thought; I understand you are a school boy. Why don’t you submit these questions, in writing, to the faculty of your school? Teachers are supposedly taught how to train and shape young, inquisitive minds whereas we on the SDMB are not, for the most part. How can you trust us to give you the best answers, unless, of course, you are simply looking for self validation and sniggering over what fools we be, to disagree with your preconceived opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/25 "2010-11-18T19:26:28Z")
Yeah, Goering, on a personal level, was a bigger prick than Hitler, but Goering without Hitler would probably not have come up with the idea, wouldn’t have built the organization to do it, and could never have inspired a nation to go along with it. Without Hitler, there may not even have been a _Luftwaffe_, and Goering would have retired as an airline pilot, and a general in the toothless _Reichswehr_. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/26 "2010-11-18T19:29:05Z")
I think the worst Nazi was Sgt. Schultz on _Hogan’s Heroes_. He was kind, gentle and generous-not much of a Nazi at all. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/27 "2010-11-18T19:31:19Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No, serial killers kill one person after another, thus the name. The Nazis really aren’t that much like serial killers actually. They were parallel killers. Much higher throughput. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/28 "2010-11-18T19:35:42Z")
Stop taking this thread seriously. OP abandoned another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/29 "2010-11-18T19:38:42Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No, serial killers kill one person after another, thus the name. The Nazis really aren’t that much like serial killers actually. Massively parellel killers? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/30 "2010-11-18T19:40:04Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > They were parallel killers. Much higher throughput. Damnit, **Terminus Est**! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/31 "2010-11-18T19:41:16Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > Stop taking this thread seriously. OP abandoned another thread. Can we still use this thread for very morbid computing jokes? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/32 "2010-11-18T19:42:17Z")
> [@Nametag](#): > > Yeah, Goering, on a personal level, was a bigger prick than Hitler, but Goering without Hitler would probably not have come up with the idea, wouldn’t have built the organization to do it, and could never have inspired a nation to go along with it. Without Hitler, there may not even have been a _Luftwaffe_, and Goering would have retired as an airline pilot, and a general in the toothless _Reichswehr_. What’s really amusing about Goering is that his [brother](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_G%C3%B6ring) was actually helping the Jews escape. As for the OP – do you really think he’s still reading this? ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/33 "2010-11-19T02:15:17Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What’s really amusing about Goering is that his [brother](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_G%C3%B6ring) was actually helping the Jews escape. > > As for the OP – do you really think he’s still reading this? I have my doubts that Goering was reading it in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/34 "2010-11-19T02:55:58Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > Stop taking this thread seriously. OP abandoned another thread. …to die, alone and afraid. The OP is a serial thread killer. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/35 "2010-11-19T03:11:47Z")
Yeah, but is he a serial thread killer Nazi or a serial thread killer Communist? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/36 "2010-11-19T07:29:13Z")
Hitler and Stalin. Sometimes the obvious answers are the right ones. ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/37 "2010-11-19T08:38:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What’s really amusing about Goering is that his [brother](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_G%C3%B6ring) was actually helping the Jews escape. Whoa. I did not know this. That is the coolest thing I’ve learned this week. As for my vote - Beria. Dude got what he deserved after Stalin died. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/38 "2010-11-19T20:47:15Z")
> [@Olentzero](#): > > Whoa. I did not know this. That is the coolest thing I’ve learned this week. I know – that was pretty much my reaction when I learned. BTW, is **Qin** ever coming back to this thread, or is already starting a new one? ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/39 "2010-11-19T21:39:59Z")
Going through an interview Albert Speer gave to “Playboy” in June, 1971 he calls most of Hitler’s courtiers so corrupt that they would make Al Capone look like a benign philanthropist. Speer says Goering was the most corrupt, looting museums on a grand scale, although Fat Hermann had great personal charm and a keen intellect “he could be a most engaging bandit.” Speer calls Martin Bormann “the most coarse and brutal and ruthless member of the Nazi hierarchy–and believe me, that took some doing. Personally, he was violent and crude, without any culture or refinement. By nature, he was an underling, but he was also a bully and treated his subordinates like animals, with sadistic contempt for their sensibilities. He was either at your feet or at your throat, the worst type of peasant with the worst type of peasant cunning.” Speer described Goebbels as capable and intelligent, dedicated worker, well organized and systematic thinker with a gift for analyzing problems and finding solutions. He towered over the mental pygmies in Hitler’s entourage, being one of the few with a university education. Bit of a martinet and waspish tongue but the two got along. Goebbels was mid-pack in corruption and more interested in blackmailing girls into his bed. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047/40 "2010-11-19T23:04:02Z")
I haven’t seen Heinrich Himmler mentioned yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-nazi-and-soviet-communist/561047.md?page=3)