# Worst (or best) edits of a song?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 4, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777 "2011-07-04T03:05:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/21 "2011-07-04T21:34:56Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I’m not entirely sure Ray Manazarek is much rated at all, at least not enough to be over-rated. But I have to give him some credit, even though I don’t like his repetitive, modal style and his phrasing. Like him or not, his keyboards really did majorly define the sound of the Doors, and it’s a sound that proved to be successful and it suited them well. I’m really having a hard time thinking of other rock bands where the keyboards was so central to the sound.

He was highly rated at the time. The reviews and articles all raved about his “classical training” with “emphasis on the Russian composers,” and his use of the key-bass wowed a lot of people into thinking that a keyboardist who used both hands at once was somehow remarkable.

I agree that keyboards predominated the Doors sound, but in my view that aspect of the sound was a product of the studio, where Ray’s simplistic contributions were overdubbed and tweaked into something considerably more interesting and impressive. But when they played live, his extremely limited imagination and skills became painfully conspicuous.

For the record: I saw The Doors in 1967, twice in '68, and in '70. (Also '72, post-Jim.) I loved them at the time, and 40 years later I still love their albums.

# Apologies for ranting.

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One of my favorite bad edits from the 60’s: The Mamas & Papas “I Saw Her Again”

The single was great. The album version included a horrible strings passage that destroyed the song’s momentum.  
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**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/22 "2011-07-05T00:58:47Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> THIS. Is. The song. I opened the thread to post about. That really tasty percussion at the end (sounds like each band member put down their instrument and picked up an obscure third world drum of some sort) was the reason I bought the CD.
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> But on “Only The Beginning: Chicago’s Greatest”? A quick fade just as you’re getting ready for what was indeed Chicago’s greatest moment. And for no reason… what, run out of room on the CD? I doubt it…

Chicago’s box set, “Group Portrait,” has the original eight minute recording of “Beginnings,” complete with the full percussion ending.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/23 "2011-07-05T07:18:25Z")

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I went many, many moons before learning what kind of bathroom Shock G got busy in as described in “The Humpty Dance.” And I have to say, I was really kind of disappointed that it was a Burger King bathroom. All that time, I had been eagerly anticipating what kind of delicious, titanic curse word I was deprived of by the radio edit, only to discover that it was all about not incurring the wrath of a burger joint. That’s not nearly as much fun.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/24 "2011-07-05T09:53:33Z")

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The Radio Edit of ‘fire water burn’ (Aka ‘the roof is on fire’) by the bloodhound gang was pretty cool. Suitable censoring sound effects and bonus spoken word DJ scratching.

My mother had a CD with Curtis Mayfield’s ''Move on up" cut from 8 minutes to 3 minutes. that was pretty bad.

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/25 "2011-07-05T16:06:57Z")

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The album version of Steppenwolf’s “Magic Carpet Ride”, on _Steppenwolf the Second,_ has a curiously uninteresting instrumental interlude; the single lost nothing by having it edited out.

On the other hand… I always feel very disappointed when I hear “Crimson & Clover” on the radio and it’s the edited version. Also the version of “Sky Pilot” that simply amputates the last half of the song.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/26 "2011-07-05T16:14:56Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> I went many, many moons before learning what kind of bathroom Shock G got busy in as described in “The Humpty Dance.” And I have to say, I was really kind of disappointed that it was a Burger King bathroom. All that time, I had been eagerly anticipating what kind of delicious, titanic curse word I was deprived of by the radio edit, only to discover that it was all about not incurring the wrath of a burger joint. That’s not nearly as much fun.

There were early edits where Humpty/Shock G raps “got busy in a fucking bathroom,” but even the album version has “Burger King.” My unfounded theory is that somebody dubbed in “Burger King” for the radio edit, and Digital Underground liked it so much they left it in for the album. Then when they went to release the single, they feared the wrath of BK’s lawyers, and ended up bleeping “Burger King” anyway!

BTW, Digital Underground’s “Doowutchyalike” is another candidate for this thread. The single is tight, but the album version pads it out with another two minutes of unfocused, dull noodling.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/27 "2011-07-05T22:50:53Z")

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The Beatles, “She Loves You” is the worse edited of all their songs. The is no other versions in existence.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/28 "2011-07-05T23:09:23Z")

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I’ve always thought the [single version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=506KqJKsaLA) of VNV Nation’s “Standing” is far superior to the [album version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk4gZEAmOLk). I love both, but the single version is much stronger for me.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/29 "2011-07-06T00:29:39Z")

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> [@ouryL](#):
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> The Beatles, “She Loves You” is the worse edited of all their songs. The is no other versions in existence.

Yep.

Although several slightly different sounding masterings were released over the years, the two least objectionable being on the original British EP and on the 2009 Remasters, the atrocious editing of the only surviving masters can’t be ignored.

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**Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/30 "2011-07-06T01:03:58Z")

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> [@Alley\_Dweller](#):
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> _Silence_ by Delerium.
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> The [original version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-je1_Ejq0) from the _Karma_ CD is a haunting song with expressive vocals.
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> The [remix that got airplay](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTLJjoW867g) is a cheesy pop/trance song. (My apologies to anyone who loved this version.) But it does have a cool video!

I prefer Tiësto’s version.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/31 "2011-08-15T07:12:56Z")

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Actually I did find a edit that improved the song–“Make Me Smile” by Chicago. [Here’s the single edit.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAyzr94k21s&feature=related) They cut the beginning and end of the song, and then stuck at the end [this song!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmSUk-r4gtU&feature=related) I have no idea why you’d have two songs with the same lyrics, but it works out great.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-or-best-edits-of-a-song/587777/32 "2011-08-15T07:41:30Z")

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1 has a musical riff, 1 has “brother”, 1 has the “n word”. The last one sounds best/most authentic IMO.

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