# Worst overdubs that made it into the final cut

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**Category:** Cafe Society
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**Created:** [February 24, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010 "2024-02-24T01:36:23Z")
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Examples:

Sigourney Weaver in **Galaxy Quest** “Well fuck screw that!”:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Jv04e7q-DzU/maxresdefault.jpg "Galaxy Quest - Chompers") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv04e7q-DzU)

The pimp in **Crocodile Dundee** “Are you gonna talk all night my man or you gonna fuck screw one of 'em?”:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3o6SNp9Ouu8/maxresdefault.jpg "Crocodile Dundee (1986) "Mick vs Pimp"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o6SNp9Ouu8&t=140)

Others?

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#### Post date: [February 24, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/2 "2024-02-24T01:40:33Z")

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I wouldn’t call it _bad_ exactly, but in the _Star Trek: The Next Generation_ first-season episode “The Battle”, they decided to make Picard’s old starship, the _Stargazer,_ a never-before-seen class of ship, a Constellation-class ship. They overdubbed Geordi’s line, which looks similar on-screen, in which he said Constitution-class, like Kirk’s _Enterprise._

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[Diamonds Are Forever opening scene](https://youtu.be/h0nuGlUlomk?si=lEslcCRzUyKfdE_Z)

Close up on character, mouth doesn’t move… ‘Cai…Cai…Cairo!’

World’s best ventriloquist perhaps? Always found that hilarious.

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#### Post date: [February 24, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/4 "2024-02-24T07:18:17Z")

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If entire films count, _Mad Max_.

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#### Post date: [February 24, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/5 "2024-02-24T09:56:28Z")

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It’s shooting fish in a barrel to criticize Tommy Wiseau’s The Room, but when it comes to ADR [the scene in the flower shop was particularly egregious](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKAwXLVxuZQ&t=29s) and there weren’t even any dialog changes.

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#### Post date: [February 24, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/6 "2024-02-24T20:19:09Z")

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Not sure if it counts but…

Star Wars: A New Hope

When the Falcon lands on Yavin 4 and rebel leaders greet Leia. One says something like “When we heard about Alderaan we feared the worst.” … I consider this bad because that voice is soooo recognizable as Michael Bell…but that’s not Michael Bell saying it.

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**Jesus Christ Superstar** (1973)

From IMDB:

During “Judas’ Death”, Caiaphas sings to Judas “What you have done will be the saving of everyone”, but his mouth is saying “the saving of Israel”, the song’s original lyric.

It’s a full face shot and it’s very obvious.

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In _The Godfather_, Sonny warns Tessio to do a good job hiding the gun for Michael, because he doesn’t want Michael to come out of the men’s room with just his dick in his hand. In the TV cut a voice which sounded almost but not exactly like Sonny said “a stick.”

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Every Slayer studio recorded guitar solo.

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#### Post date: [February 25, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/10 "2024-02-25T02:48:12Z")

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😆 Nice. I thought I was somehow the only person to notice that.

They are clearly good enough guitarists to be able to craft a decent solo when they want to, but most of the time, yeah, it’s just mindless noodling that has little to nothing to do with whatever they’re playing over. Again, they’re definitely good enough musicians to know better, which means it has to be intentional.

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[George Harrison’s random “hullo” in _Life of Brian._](https://youtu.be/jbZRNM-9RKo?si=rZGewJgU_Kg4GQAV)

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> If entire films count, _Mad Max_.

I’ll see your _Mad Max_, and raise you _The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly._

AIUI, GBU was filmed in mostly Italian except for the American actors, but the entire script was re-recorded later in English and dubbed back into the film.

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> the TV cut a voice which sounded almost but not exactly like Sonny said “a stick.”

To my ear, “nothing but his dick in his hand” (the actual dialog) and “nothing but a stick in his hand” are pretty damned close.

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In Dr. Strangelove, when Slim Pickens is going through the survival kit contents check, at the end he says “Heck, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff.” Because of Kennedy’s assassination they overdubbed “Vegas”, but the dub is pretty obvious.

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I guess “Dallas” was meant to make the character more provincial, but “Vegas” is funnier.

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I don’t get it. What do you mean?

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The solos sound like they were recorded separately, and put on the shelf. Then when a track needs a solo, they just grab one off the shelf and drop it in. It’s like the tempo doesn’t match, and the fit always seems disjointed.

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Y’know, there’s something that has always bothered me about Cream’s “Crossroads”, although I guess I’d call it a bad edit rather than a bad overdub. The transition from the end of the guitar solo to the final verse has always sounded wrong to me. Knowing that Cream was known for long jams, I’ve always assumed that they cut out several minutes of noodling right there, but it just seems so abrupt and obvious.

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Speaking of that, I always wondered about the Darth Vader awkwardly gesticulating for a while to Moff Tarkin with no dialog, I always wondered if someone else noticed, some did, and the guys at the StackExchange report this answer:

> <https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/64939/what-did-vader-originally-say-when-he-waggled-his-finger>

> SCENE: Darth and Tarkin are talking about Leia’s deception over the rebel base allegedly being on Dantooine.
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> EVENT: During part of the exchange, Darth stops talking, but keeps gesturing as though he is saying something. Tarkin doesn’t respond to his comment until after he stops gesturing. The reason Vader continues gesturing is that the original line of dialog was a bit longer, and was evidently shortened in post-production. According to the original screenplay, Vader’s full lines were:
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> “I told you she would never consciously betray the Rebellion, unless she thought she could destroy us in the process.”
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> In the final cut, they cut off the audio line after the word “Rebellion.” David Prowse did speak the original lines during filming, hence the prolonged gesturing).

Can anyone confirm?

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I think Weaver’s dub was on purpose, it was meant to be noticable. It really can’t be missed, and I think it was done in the spirit of the original show, in which I’m sure she wouldn’t have had that written for her.

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