# Worst overdubs that made it into the final cut

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**Created:** [February 24, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010 "2024-02-24T01:36:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/21 "2024-02-25T18:44:49Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I think Weaver’s dub was on purpose, it was meant to be noticable. It really can’t be missed, and I think it was done in the spirit of the original show, in which I’m sure she wouldn’t have had that written for her

The movie is PG, not even PG-13. I think the DVD commentary says they re-recorded the swear to keep the PG rating.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/22 "2024-02-25T18:58:13Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> The movie is PG, not even PG-13. I think the DVD commentary says they re-recorded the swear to keep the PG rating.

[An entry in the “Goofs” section](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0177789/goofs/?tab=gf&ref_=tt_trv_gf) of the film’s IMDB page concurs.

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> When Jason Nesmith and Gwen DeMarco are standing at the start of the chompers, the audio track has Gwen saying “Screw that!” However, she is clearly saying “Fuck that!” but was dubbed for the PG rating from MPAA.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/23 "2024-02-25T19:07:24Z")

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The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is one of my favorite movies but the dubbing really takes me out of it sometimes. Luckily, many of the best parts have no dialogue,

What’s the best version to watch in English? This is dumb, but I didn’t even know there was an Italian version. Where can I watch that? I’ve been watching it many times for decades since I was a kid (pre-internet), but only randomly when it comes on or streaming without paying attention to the version.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/24 "2024-02-25T19:16:26Z")

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After the release of the 80’s Transformers movie there was a lot of backlash over the killing of Optimus Prime (and most of the original cartoon cast, that movie was like the red wedding in the middle of a kids cartoon) Hasbro changed the ending of the GI Joe movie which released a month or two afterwards. So in the climactic scene when Duke is supposed to sacrifice himself to save a new character nobody really gave a shit about they simply over dubbed “into a coma” after the doctor says “he’s gone”. It sounds ridiculous, and everyone is obviously reacting as if he had died.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/25 "2024-02-25T22:47:38Z")

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The worst (and by worst I mean best) overdub is Mel Brooks saying “Don’t be stupid be a smarty, come and join the Nazi Party” in all versions of _The Producers._ It’s unmistakably Mel Brooks and an overly obvious overdub. Not only is it in both movie versions the line was also lip synced in every performance on stage.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ca7063tXIP4/maxresdefault.jpg "Springtime for Hitler ft. John Barrowman | The Producers (2005) | TUNE") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca7063tXIP4)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/26 "2024-02-25T23:27:29Z")

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> [@iamatractorboy](#):
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> [Diamonds Are Forever opening scene](https://youtu.be/h0nuGlUlomk?si=lEslcCRzUyKfdE_Z)
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> Close up on character, mouth doesn’t move… ‘Cai…Cai…Cairo!’
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> World’s best ventriloquist perhaps? Always found that hilarious.

I agree. I’ve always found this wonderfully awful.

Another one from Bond – at the end of **The Man with the Golden Gun** Bond traps Tattoo in the large trunk and hauls him off. Tattoo continues to protest, but Bond says “Shut up!”

The voice doesn’t sound remotely like Roger Moore’s. It’s as if they realized that they needed someone to say that last line, didn’t think it was worth bringing Roger Moore back to do it, and simply gave it to some random actor.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/27 "2024-02-25T23:45:52Z")

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In _The Maltese Falcon_, someone clearly NOT Mary Astor says “why don’t you make him tell the truth!?” as Mary Astor performs a kick aimed at Peter Lorre.

It’s very disconcerting as the voice doesn’t match Astor’s even remotely.

[https://brightlightsfilm.com/mary-astor-birthday-tribute-hollywood-star-may-3-1906/](https://brightlightsfilm.com/mary-astor-birthday-tribute-hollywood-star-may-3-1906/)

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/28 "2024-02-26T07:17:35Z")

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[The Defiling of the Legend of the Lone Ranger, Right up the Butt, Kemosabe!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Lone_Ranger)

A movie so ineptly acted, scripted, written and … fuck, whats the word? Anyway… that they scraped the **Main Character’s** (you know, The Fucking Lone Goddamn Ranger) _entire dialog_ and dubbed it in later (By the very cromulent James Keach).

Easily one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. And that says a whole fucking lot, if you know my movie reviews on this Wonderful Message Board.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/29 "2024-02-26T12:16:20Z")

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The scene that defines “overdub that distracts from the film” for me is in The Blues Brothers.

When Jake and Elwood go to visit The Penguin (a nun), there is a scene where one of them accidentally lets a curse word slip, then the nun smacks him…then the other one swears, then they continue swearing with each swat as she whacks them until they beat a hasty stumbling retreat falling down the stairwell.

The scene makes no sense whatsoever if the nun starts smacking them over “Shucks!” “Golly!” and “Gee whiz!”, as was done for the television edit.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/30 "2024-02-26T13:20:52Z")

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Yeah, it would have still been funny if they’d just bleeped the words.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/31 "2024-02-26T14:25:35Z")

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We can’t even count the Steven Seagal “movies”\* that he is making now. He doesn’t show up for any ADR, so it is all just other people trying to imitate his grumble. He also doesn’t do a bunch of takes, so many shots are of other actors in shadows pretending to be him.

\*I’ve long suspected his movies are money laundering schemes. It’s the only thing that makes sense.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/32 "2024-02-26T15:27:28Z")

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The opening scene of _Scarface_ (1983) shows Tony Montana (Al Pacino) being interrogated by an immigration officer. You can’t see his face, but his voice is clearly that of veteran character actor Charles Durning. When the shot eventually pulls out, it’s another actor, but Charles Durning’s voice still speaking. If you didn’t know who Durning was, the overdub wouldn’t be quite so jarring and obvious, but he has been in so many movies (including with Pacino in _Dog Day Afternoon_, where he had a prominent role) and his voice so recognizable, it makes it distracting.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/33 "2024-02-26T15:31:38Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> They overdubbed Geordi’s line, which looks similar on-screen, in which he said Constitution-class, like Kirk’s _Enterprise._

Kirk’s Enterprise was a Constitution Class Starship. I searched to be sure.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/34 "2024-02-26T15:47:20Z")

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Non-dialogue example: in **Nebraska** , the main character’s male relatives are watching a football game on TV - but it’s clearly been overdubbed with audio from a radio broadcast.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/35 "2024-02-26T16:36:03Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Another one from Bond – at the end of **The Man with the Golden Gun** Bond traps Tattoo in the large trunk and hauls him off. Tattoo continues to protest, but Bond says “Shut up!”

I assume you mean Nicknack, I’ve no idea where the name Tattoo comes into any Bond film!

Edit: Mental note: must Google before replying!

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/36 "2024-02-26T17:49:02Z")

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> [@iamatractorboy](#):
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> I assume you mean Nicknack, I’ve no idea where the name Tattoo comes into any Bond film!

Sorry about that – meant to use the right name, but “Tattoo” crept in.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/37 "2024-02-26T17:53:51Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> meant to use the right name, but “Tattoo” crept in.

You need a little breather.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/38 "2024-02-27T21:17:30Z")

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No worries! I’ve never seen _Fantasy Island_ so I had no clue…

By the way… I had no idea about the origin of your username, until I saw [this](https://youtu.be/hQzfCDHt12Y?si=LOE8lAim8k9qCMNi) youtube video!

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/39 "2024-02-28T01:30:23Z")

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Die Hard ][ got the worst edit for TV. The “Yippie Ki Yay, Mr. Falcone” is famous, but the whole movie got butchered:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DuQP4d_r_Gs/hqdefault.jpg "Dub Hard 2 - Edited For TV") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuQP4d_r_Gs)

> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> “Tattoo” crept in.

He does that, you have to keep an eye out for him.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-overdubs-that-made-it-into-the-final-cut/998010/40 "2024-02-28T15:53:38Z")

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For some reason I always notice Paul Frees’ voice – perhaps because I was raised on Bullwinkle and Disney. So it really jumped out in **Midway** (1976) when Toshiro Mifune’s dialog as Adm Yamamoto was entirely overdubbed by Paul Frees.

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