# Worst parts of the "good" Star Trek films

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**Created:** [March 16, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152 "2015-03-16T22:51:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/41 "2015-03-19T00:08:13Z")

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…and his thinking is 2 dimensional as well.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/42 "2015-03-19T00:31:42Z")

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“Wrath of Khan”. 75-80 genetically-enhanced adults from the 1980s, suspended animation for 300 years and then 20 years awake and living on a planet. So why do all these guys, except Khan, look to be in their late 20s? Shouldn’t they look about 50? Or was Khan the only one who got the aging gene?

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**Author:** ![The\_Winkler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@The\_Winkler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Winkler)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/43 "2015-03-19T05:53:07Z")

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In Star Trek IV, Kirk telling the female lead (can’t recall her name) that he and Spock were on their way back to San Francisco. There already were in San Francisco. Couldn’t the crew have crossed the Golden Gate and filmed one lousy seen in Sausalito?

Also in IV, Sulu commenting that he was born in San Francisco. Thanks, Paramount, for propagating the belief that there’s something in our water that produces homosexuals.

Finally, Star Trek VI simply feels like it was written for the TV series. The scope of the film, to me, just seems so small.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/44 "2015-03-19T11:04:16Z")

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In Star Trek VI, there’s the alien whose incredibly sensitive genitals are on his knee, and they aren’t even covered by a thin layer of cloth for protection.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/45 "2015-03-19T13:43:27Z")

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> [@Nonsuch](#):
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> I recall an interview where the producers said they had to make the blood purple to avoid a PG-13 rating.

Oh yes, I know why it’s there. It’s still hokey.

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/46 "2015-03-19T14:07:26Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The whole plot of Insurrection bother me to shit and gone. What’s that bit about “needs of the any outweigh the needs of the few”? And that planet was so empty both races plus a billion more could have lived happily.

I do think Insurrection has a well-done twist when it is revealed that

That the Baku and Son’a are the same species, just different factions. The Baku are portrayed as an equivalent to Amish people - they have warp drive and energy weapons, but they don’t use them, nor do they want to fight anybody.

It’s also interesting that the Federation apparently now does really and truly have cloaking devices - their use is just rather classified.

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/47 "2015-03-23T15:24:26Z")

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Wrath of Khan… they have to find a 100% completely uninhabited planet to test Genesis on. It’s said to be a cumbersome process and is requiring extensive research.

Well, okay… by the time of Star Trek we know there’s a Mars base and people on the Moon. But there’s really NO indication that Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, etc. have any life. They’re really quite inhospitable, and we were pretty certain even when WoK was being made that no native live exists there. Why not launch Genesis on, say, Pluto?

And it can’t be “because it has to be a certain KIND of dead planet”, because a) they never say that, and b) it ends up getting launched in the middle of a nebula, which would lead to the point that the specifications of the matter to be dissolved are pretty broad.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/48 "2015-03-24T00:44:58Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> For me, in TWoK, it really pisses me off that Scotty takes badly burned Peter Preston to the bridge rather than sickbay, where you know, they have people and equipment to handle injured crew. And it’s not even like the bridge is on the way!
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> It comes across more like Scotty is deliberately taunting Kirk - “here’s what your recklessness causes! (dumps body on bridge floor) Why do you live when good people like him die?”

IIRC, there’s a line in the novel about the turbolifts being all jacked up due to the damage from Khan’s attack; still, it was a bit heavy handed.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/49 "2015-03-24T03:35:03Z")

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Star Trek: First Contact

Dr. Cochrane blasting Magic Carpet Ride during the launch, as if Steppenwolf would be any more or less anachronistic in 2063 than Stone Temple Pilots or some other band from the late 90s when the film was released.

How does a single Borg cube make it all the way through the Federation to Earth without being challenged?

Star Trek: Wrath of Kahn

You don’t know which freakin’ Ceti Alpha you are on!? Or that one of them is MISSING FROM THE SOLAR SYSTEM!

I would think that an instant terraforming machine that has the potential to be weaponized into a doomsday weapon would have more security.

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/50 "2015-03-24T12:47:28Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Star Trek: First Contact
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> Dr. Cochrane blasting Magic Carpet Ride during the launch, as if Steppenwolf would be any more or less anachronistic in 2063 than Stone Temple Pilots or some other band from the late 90s when the film was released.
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> How does a single Borg cube make it all the way through the Federation to Earth without being challenged?
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> Star Trek: Wrath of Kahn
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> You don’t know which freakin’ Ceti Alpha you are on!? Or that one of them is MISSING FROM THE SOLAR SYSTEM!
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> I would think that an instant terraforming machine that has the potential to be weaponized into a doomsday weapon would have more security.

When Ceti Alpha V exploded, Ceti Alpha VI moved into its orbit (which admittedly sounds weird, but then I don’t think they say how many suns the system has, and I know they don’t detail the explosion, so there’s no way to estimate the gravitational forces at play)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-parts-of-the-good-star-trek-films/715152/51 "2015-03-24T13:59:26Z")

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> [@johnspartan](#):
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> When Ceti Alpha V exploded, Ceti Alpha VI moved into its orbit (which admittedly sounds weird, but then I don’t think they say how many suns the system has, and I know they don’t detail the explosion, so there’s no way to estimate the gravitational forces at play)

I just assume Q did it. He’s been watching us a long time.

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