Yep.
In the last three months, I’ve seen four aces lose to a royal twice. (!)
I’ve seen quads a thousand times. Only takes one fisher in 52 to hit a one outer.
And I don’t play play-money either. One guy flops trip aces, the other a royal flush draw. They’re both all in. Not really that surprising.
If online poker is rigged (it’s not), then it must be in my favor as it’s now my career and I’ve won thousands against said fishers.
Well, he may have thought that just hitting the straight OR the flush would be the winner.
Another important point in the “rigged” debate is that the generally looser play online means many more hands are played to the river than they are in brick and mortar. This, of course, mean many more opportunities for people to be outdrawn.
Although hands like this might just make me reconsider my position on the “rigged” debate:
Texas Hold’em $0.50-$1 NL(real money),hand#822,918,352
Table Truckee,15 Apr 2005 04:47 PM
Seat1:vodkashot($37.25inchips)
Seat2:badv1n($23inchips)
Seat3:Otto47119D,9H
Seat4:darling dave($40.90inchips)
Seat5:Sgt.Pepper($52.15inchips)
Seat6:hburgers($27.95inchips)
Seat7:cedub34($32.25inchips)
Seat8:junkyard_sal($48.75inchips)
Seat9:snoogans211($26inchips)
Seat10:come_on26($136.55inchips)
ANTES/BLINDS
vodkashot posts blind ($0.25), badv1n posts blind ($0.50).
PRE-FLOP
Otto4711 bets $2, darling dave calls $2, Sgt.Pepper folds, hburgers bets $27.95 and is all-in, cedub34 folds, junkyard_sal folds, snoogans211 folds, come_on26 calls $27.95, vodkashot folds, badv1n folds, Otto4711 folds, darling dave calls $25.95.
FLOP [board cards 6S,2C,3S ]
darling dave bets $12.95 and is all-in, come_on26 calls $12.95.
TURN [board cards 6S,2C,3S,5C ]
RIVER [board cards 6S,2C,3S,5C,8H ]
SHOWDOWN
darling dave shows [ JD,JH ]
hburgers shows [ KH,KC ]
come_on26 shows [ JC,4C ]
come_on26 wins $25.90, come_on26 wins $83.60
He put 27.95 in with a J-4???
Then another 12.95 fishing for two consecutive clubs or a 5.
How in the world was he big stack at the table?
See, that just isn’t right.
Just like in the OP’s OP, there is no way the guy fishing for the (whatever he was fishing for) should have been in the game long enough to land that straight flush.
There is nothing more interesting to me than my own bad beats stories.
There is nothing less interesting to me than YOUR bad beat stories.
(apologies to Dennis Miller)
Play poker long enough, and you’ll have some horrific beats. I won a bad-beat jackpot by having four flopped 5’s get beaten by a runner-runner straight flush. I once had a guy raise me on every round in a 15-30 Omaha game with absolutely nothing but a 3-flush while I was holding four Aces, thinking he could push me off the pot, only to back into a runner-runner straight flush. I’ve been at a no-limit table when a player lost a straight flush to a royal flush (and not a one-card flush either. One player had AKs, the other had 89s, the flop was TsJsQs).
This stuff happens all the time. Online poker differs only in that you can play many more hands per hour, so the game seems ‘streakier’ in the short term and you see more extreme situations in a given day.
Oh, and you should have gone all-in with your aces before the flop. I would have put in a medium-sized raise right off the bat, and as soon as anyone else gave me action by raising I would have pushed my stack in. You’re either going to snap off some callers and get them to leave some dead money in the pot, which is a good thing, or force them to wager a lot of chips while you’re an overwhelming favorite.
It’s almost never correct to slow-play Aces before the flop, unless you think someone will raise behind you and give you a chance to move all-in on them.
What I mean is that I had AA in my hand, and the flop was AA3. As I recall, he had some cheezy hand like KQ45, and the turn and river were 7,6.
I came in late to the table so I didn’t see how he built initially, but while I was there he raised almost every hand pre-flop and bet out post-flop. The table was pretty loose so he’d get callers every time, and he was catching cards like crazy. Made me slightly nuts because I like to play aggressive and I had to shut down almost completely. Other people at the table were just as crazy. I didn’t like it but at the same time I didn’t want to leave because I knew that every time I did have a hand I’d get action.
Just wanted to say that last night, after my comment about the possible drawbacks of slowplaying AA, I lost $25 at a $25NL holdem table when I raised to $1.50 under the gun with my pocket aces and got called by J4d. He flopped two pair, I still had over pair and bet, he raised to put me all-in and I called. What the hell was he doing calling with J4 suited???
But now, thanks to your experience, Otto, I understand. J4 suited is the r0x00rz. Or something like that.
