# Worst tattoo coverup ever! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 23, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449 "2022-07-23T18:17:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/41 "2022-07-27T12:23:04Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Other than having black hair and being conventionally pretty, I don’t think they look all that alike They both also have a ‘goth’ look with the bright red lipstick and pale skin (and the dark hair you mentioned). [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/KVD_2016_SEPHORA_WINDOW_037.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/KVD_2016_SEPHORA_WINDOW_037.jpg) [![](https://messymandella.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/ditavonteesemakeupredlipsticko_cvy1dnwwnl.jpg) ](https://messymandella.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/ditavonteesemakeupredlipsticko_cvy1dnwwnl.jpg) > [@MrDibble](#): > > Von Teese has a single tattoo, and it’s tiny. Von D seems to wear jeans and rocker wear as much as, if not more than, vintage-style clothes, whereas Von Teese is almost-always in that retro look. That’s why I said " I’m sure it’s very common for people to get them confused if they have no reason to know one from the other" If you know Kat has tattoos or that Dita has a retro look, you likely know them well enough to tell one from the other. I’m just talking about someone with a passing familiarity with them. Think about how anyone that doesn’t pay attention to the Kardashians likely can’t tell you which is which without a [mnemonic device](https://youtu.be/fZWM-A2lT5M?t=12). And, to be fair, the similarity of their names makes it all that more confusing, that even if you know one is a model and one is a tattoo artist, you still might not be able to remember which name goes with which. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/42 "2022-07-27T13:16:09Z")
> [@chela](#): > > Kat VD turned her LA mansion into a gothic nightmare. I knew about the red swimming > pool, but you can see on her IG how they remodeled the whole house to suit their bizarre aesthetic. Dark, gloomy, sinister even. I like it a lot. There’s some beautiful woodwork and other (plaster?) decorative stuff. The kitchen cabinets are boring, but easy to reface. Not keen on the red pool, though. Repaint it black and you don’t need a pool heater. > [@garygnu](#): > > [Here’s a reddit post that includes a gif](https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/vwtffw/black_tattoo_laser_branding/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) of a small version. That is so freakin’ cool! > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Let this be her last battlefield. IISWYDT. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/43 "2022-07-27T13:28:20Z")
She does have an artistic eye and you’re right some of the design elements are beautiful. Still she went way overboard in the matchy matchy department. The kitchen imo is big miss. Copper range? Cool enough, coppery backsplash tiles too ? Too much! The immense carved gothic range hood I guess? Did you see the red lacquer master bath in her IG? A murder scene! ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/44 "2022-07-27T14:27:50Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > They both also have a ‘goth’ look with the bright red lipstick and pale skin Only if you look at those 3 things - and nothing else. They have different face shapes, different eye colours, different hairstyles, etc, etc. Von D has a Goth(adjacent\*) look, Von Teese doesn’t. Or else every female star of the Hollywood Golden Age with black hair had a Goth look, too. And I think you dismiss the tattoos too quickly. That’s a _huge_ difference. Especially when they’re on the face. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > I’m just talking about someone with a passing familiarity with them. In what way would someone have a passing familiarity with them _other_ than knowing those things? Well, except if you know Von D through her music. But then you’d know who she was. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > And, to be fair, the similarity of their names Other than them both having a Von, I don’t see anything similar there. Maybe it’s because I come from a place where the equivalent (Van) is a common enough part of surnames, but I’ve never gotten them mixed up. \* As a Goth, I’d say she has much more of a Metal or Rocker look than a Goth one… ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/45 "2022-07-27T14:51:17Z")
I think both of their home decorating aesthetic’s are way too cluttery, but hands down DVT home is way more welcoming and comfortable. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rHyIOIstYRA/maxresdefault.jpg "Inside Dita Von Teese's Taxidermy-Filled Home | Open Door | Architectural Digest") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHyIOIstYRA) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/46 "2022-07-27T14:56:28Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > And, to be fair, the similarity of their names makes it all that more confusing, that even if you know one is a model and one is a tattoo artist, you still might not be able to remember which name goes with which. Right. I don’t have a problem telling them apart by looks. It’s the name part that I trip on. If they stood side by side, I still would only have a 50/50 chance of getting the names right. They are just not on my radar that often. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/47 "2022-07-27T18:22:47Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Well, it does give her overall skin a more consistent look…doesn’t clash with her clothes like most tattoos do. Most tatted people just look like a jumble of images and kinda messy Yes. I mean, people are free do adorn their bodies however they choose, but folks with lots of unrelated tattoos on their arms and legs look to me like artists’ sketchbooks. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/48 "2022-07-27T18:44:34Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > folks with lots of unrelated tattoos on their arms and legs look to me like artists’ sketchbooks. Some people do stick&pokes on themselves and wind up with dozens of unrelated pieces, but that’s what they’re going for. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/49 "2022-07-27T18:51:53Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Only if you look at those 3 things - and nothing else. They have different face shapes, different eye colours, different hairstyles, etc, etc. Fine, whatever, I give up, you win, they look nothing alike and there’s no reason anyone should ever get them mixed up. Congrats on the victory. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/50 "2022-07-27T18:53:49Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > folks with lots of unrelated tattoos on their arms and legs look to me like artists’ sketchbooks. That’s often exactly the case. It’s not uncommon for tattoo artists to practice on their legs. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/51 "2022-07-28T00:53:27Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > White ink is used primarily for adding highlights Also, white ink cannot be removed by lasers. I’m in the process of having one tattoo removed and the background of another lightened, and whenever the laser tech works on the latter he first uses a white marker to cover the parts that I don’t want removed. When he explained that lasers can’t remove white, I said, “So if, like, a dark-skinned African-American came in with a snowman tattoo that they wanted removed…?” and he said, “Nope, wouldn’t be able to do it.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/52 "2022-07-28T12:54:38Z")
It’s probably possible, but it’d be more difficult. You might be able to do it with an infrared or untraviolet laser, depending on the particular white pigment used. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/53 "2022-07-28T13:40:04Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > “So if, like, a dark-skinned African-American came in with a snowman tattoo that they wanted removed…?” I used to know a guy in the Pittsburgh tattoo community who went by the name SodaPop. He was extremely muscular and extremely black. His tattoos were all black. It was fun to try to see what all he had. The light had to be just so. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/54 "2022-07-28T13:43:22Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Yep. Shading can even be comfortable. However, I had my knees done years ago with shading needle groups, similar to what is used for blackout work. My knees were getting sunburned kayaking due to vitiligo. > > My artist mixed up ink that was close to my skin tone and went over and over my knees. It hurt. And the end result is my knees look like knees, and they do not burn like they once did. Wait, you got permanent sunscreen? You can do that? I often get burns in my part line, on my scalp. I wonder if I could do something about that. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Other than them both having a Von, I don’t see anything similar there. Maybe it’s because I come from a place where the equivalent (Van) is a common enough part of surnames, but I’ve never gotten them mixed up. I know nothing about either of them. But two women of about the same age with similar hair whose names both start with “von” would be something I would confuse. Even if they are totally different in lots of other ways. “Von” is an unusual name-element for me, and probably for most Americans. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/55 "2022-07-28T13:47:19Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Wait, you got permanent sunscreen? You can do that? No, not sunscreen, just flesh tone ink. I have vitiligo and read about people getting inked cosmetically, spoke with a tattoo artist/friend and gave it a go. The presence of the ink decreases burning. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/56 "2022-07-28T14:34:33Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > But two women of about the same age with similar hair whose names both start with “von” would be something I would confuse. There’s a decade between them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/57 "2022-07-28T15:12:46Z")
One of my mom’s “honorary granddaughters” is very dark-skinned, and Mom thinks that she wasted her money on the tattoos she has, because you can barely even tell that she has tattoos at all. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/58 "2022-07-28T15:28:30Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > folks with lots of unrelated tattoos on their arms and legs look to me like artists’ sketchbooks. > > Some people do stick&pokes on themselves and wind up with dozens of unrelated pieces, but that’s what they’re going for. Which is of course their prerogative and no business of mine; but it looks messy to me. _De gustibus non_ and all that. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/59 "2022-07-28T16:11:55Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > No, not sunscreen, just flesh tone ink. I was going to ask about this earlier. Why not just use waterproof sunscreen rather than go thru what you called a painful experience? Or did the tattoo cover up your vitiligo so your skin appeared to be the same shade? Off topic, but I always associate kayaks with the legs being inside the hull. I thought the plastic ones where your lower body were exposed were paddle boats. Is this not true? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/60 "2022-07-28T16:31:18Z")
With vitiligo even sunscreen applied judiciously isn’t 100% blockage, plus there is constant water splashing. Some sunscreens are water **proof** , some are water **resistant** , and even the waterproof sunscreens are only effective for about twice as long as water resistant sunscreens. With sunscreen I am trying to minimize sunburn, not eliminate it. the tattoo ink decreases burning, just as melanin would if I had any. My legs are inside my boat, but my feet are on pedals and my knees slightly flexed to put more oomph in each stroke. My knees are right at the edge of my hull, exposed to sun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449.md?page=4)