# Worst tattoo coverup ever! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 23, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449 "2022-07-23T18:17:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/61 "2022-07-28T16:51:10Z")
Thanks for the explanation. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/62 "2022-07-28T18:03:28Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > but I always associate kayaks with the legs being inside the hull. I thought the plastic ones where your lower body were exposed were paddle boats. Is this not true? There are many kayak designs. There are short boats designed for playing in whitewater. Medium sized boats designed for flat water, very long boats sometimes with rudders designed for flat water excursions. The kayaks that you sit on top of are for ocean play. Waves can go over your boat and drain through. Your lower body is exposed in these kayaks. Paddle boats? Never heard a kayak called a paddle boat. There are paddle boards, that are like surf boards kinda. You stand (or kneel) and paddle. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/63 "2022-07-28T20:06:08Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Thereā€™s a decade between them. That much difference? Iā€™m surprised. But they both use very heavy facial makeup which definitely softens the age difference. I wouldnā€™t have thought there was more than a year or two difference between them by looking at them. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/64 "2022-07-28T20:59:05Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > There are paddle boards, that are like surf boards kinda. You stand (or kneel) and paddle. Something like this. Iā€™ve seen ones that you can sit three people on. To me they look like kayaks with the top cut off. No flat like paddle boards. [![](https://s.alicdn.com/@sc04/kf/H29747c13ce6c4b15be496c5374ef8df09.png) ](https://s.alicdn.com/@sc04/kf/H29747c13ce6c4b15be496c5374ef8df09.png) ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/65 "2022-07-28T23:09:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Itā€™s probably possible, but itā€™d be more difficult. You might be able to do it with an infrared or untraviolet laser, depending on the particular white pigment used. Did you miss the part where someone who does laser tattoo removal for a living told me that white ink canā€™t be removed? The place I go to is state-of-the-art, BTW: if itā€™s possible for a tattoo to be removed, they can do it. Not all places can say the same. One place I went to for a quote didnā€™t bother to ask me anything about my tat before scheduling the consult, only for me to show up (after a 3-week wait) and be told ā€œOh, sorry, we donā€™t have the right kind of laser to remove blue-green ink.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/66 "2022-07-28T23:21:50Z")
I was in one of those last week. The rental place just called them paddle kayaks. They put in a gizmo that you pump with your legs and makes little duck feet underneath paddle the water. Easier than paddling with your arms (though it also came with a paddle in case the gizmo broke or you needed to push off from something) ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/67 "2022-07-28T23:45:20Z")
I canā€™t help wondering if somebody is going to accuse her of either cultural appropriation, or possibly (in effect) covering her body in ā€œminstrel blackface.ā€ Ten years ago the thought never would have crossed my mind, but the way that things have gone in recent years, I consider it a genuine possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/68 "2022-07-29T01:43:57Z")
Itā€™s already happened. Itā€™s not mentioned often, but there are articles on the internet suggesting it could be similar to blackface. Hereā€™s the first one I found. I couldnā€™t really find any from more than a few years ago so perhaps hers (either her tattoo or the criticism of her tattoo) is the first time itā€™s involved someone popular enough that more than just her fans were aware of it. > **[Are Blackout Tattoos a Bad Idea?](https://www.alittlebithuman.com/are-blackout-tattoos-a-bad-idea/)** > > Blackout tattoos have become increasingly trendy in recent years, but are they safe and could getting one be considered cultural appropriation? > One of the biggest problems with blackout tattoos, however, is that many people consider them to be cultural appropriation. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/69 "2022-07-29T07:47:01Z")
> [@](#): > > One of the biggest problems with blackout tattoos, however, is that many people consider them to be cultural appropriation. Talk about a stretch. I wonder what the article considers ā€œmany people?ā€ > [@Jophiel](#): > > They put in a gizmo that you pump with your legs and makes little duck feet underneath paddle the water. I didnā€™t know that. I was wondering if the mount in front of the cockpit was for raising a small mast and sail. Iā€™ve never seen one with a sail tho. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/70 "2022-07-29T10:34:04Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > To me they look like kayaks with the top cut off. Thatā€™s a SOT (sit on top) kayak, meant for ocean use. My son in Florida has one rigged for fishing. Kayaks for \>1 are what we call divorce boats. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/71 "2022-07-29T10:44:08Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Something like this. I would call that a kayak. Iā€™ve never heard of a ā€œpaddle boatā€, but when i googled it, i saw a lot of pedal boats. And this > **[Paddle or pedal? Boat puzzle stumps 'Wheel of Fortune' contestants](https://abc7chicago.com/wheel-of-fortune-paddleboat-pedal-boat-pat-sajak/11659025/)** > > 'What are you doing?' was the category. And that's what the "Wheel of Fortune" audience was asking these contestants during this puzzle! Which explains that paddle boats have a paddle wheel which is typically powered by your feet, making them a common subset of pedal boats. Looking more like this > **[4-Person Pedal Boats | Fiberglass | Commercial Duty](https://kaypark.com/product/4-person-glitter-finish-pedal-cruiser/?attribute_pa_color-attribute=blue-glitter&attribute_pa_pedal-cruiser-hardware=galvanized-hardware&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aETorVMT8EtCzKMnBP1um8pdXojsXGSsKrx8DceHMTRes5WKTuJK8oaAlXZEALw_wcB)** > > Kay's popular commercial, rental-duty pedal boats are a great addition to waterfront areas. Heavy-duty fiberglass construction 100% foam-filled durable pontoons float high in water All self-draining seats, pedal wells, & pontoons Regreasable... ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/72 "2022-07-29T13:28:03Z")
> [@Misnomer](#): > > Did you miss the part where someone who does laser tattoo removal for a living told me that white ink canā€™t be removed? But there canā€™t be any single answer for ā€œwhite inkā€, because ā€œwhite inkā€ isnā€™t a single substance. All that ā€œwhiteā€ tells us is that it has a high albedo in the visible range of the spectrum. But something might be white in the visible range, but still have a low albedo in the IR or UV, in which case an IR or UV laser would work fine on it. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/73 "2022-07-29T17:20:40Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Thatā€™s a SOT (sit on top) kayak, meant for ocean use. My son in Florida has one rigged for fishing. I see the ocean ones on my lake all the time. Can you roll an ocean going one like you can a regular kayak? I see some of them have seat belts. Rigged for fishing - is that a fishing rod holder in the pic I posted, forward of the seat? Or can they rig a sail? Can you link to a pic of the kayak you use? Most seem to be plastic now. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > Iā€™ve never heard of a ā€œpaddle boatā€ Thatā€™s my own name for them to differentiate them from other watercraft that I see. They seem like a cross between a kayak and a paddle board. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/74 "2022-07-29T17:36:43Z")
Correction to my earlier post, they were called ā€œ[Pedal Kayaks](https://www.hobie.com/kayaks/mirage-oasis/)ā€, not ā€œPaddleā€. Propels by pumping your legs, making the duck-feet move underwater. Steer with a little dial in the back along the side which moves the rudder. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/75 "2022-07-29T18:06:58Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Off topic, but I always associate kayaks with the legs being inside the hull. I thought the plastic ones where your lower body were exposed were paddle boats. Is this not true? Some kayaks have an open, "sit-uponā€™ design; mainly, as I understand it, for inexperienced duffers like myself who havenā€™t been trained to right themselves if they roll a ā€œsit-inā€ style. A few months ago, I got a very bad burn on my thighs (on a gloomy, 100% overcast day, mind) after spending several hours paddling around the Pamlico Sound in such a boat. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/76 "2022-07-29T18:28:48Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Can you link to a pic of the kayak you use? I own a bunch of ā€˜yaks. [One is a long kayak with rudder.](https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/120680?productId=1680798&attrValue_0=Eclipse&sku=1000045691&pla1=0&qs=3155276&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aHKwVMRXxdzzKlJiErRg3sfvExI9sw5RQPp50rGcm5h-XyErJHl1a8aAvn6EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) [Several are boring, everyday recreational kayaks.](https://www.homedepot.com/p/RAXGO-Freestanding-175-lb-Capacity-Kayak-Storage-Rack-with-Build-in-Wheels-Heavy-Duty-Storage-for-Two-Kayaks-Canoes-RGFSKRWW/318516503) [I had a whitewater kayak,](https://www.backcountry.com/jackson-kayak-rockstar-kayak?CMP_SKU=JAKD04O&MER=0406&skid=JAKD04O-COTCAN-M&mr:trackingCode=6E2EDA86-314D-EC11-8122-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=m&mr:adType=plaonline&CMP_ID=PLA_GMm001&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PLA&k_clickid=_k_Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aEBkx7b5GoeiHy5JtWylLENVqOFfn_tajEB8yfr0_TdrLMVXiUi5c0aAoZDEALw_wcB_k_&utm_id=go_cmp-213418237_adg-13362837637_ad-92885920477_pla-1679409500810_dev-m_ext-_prd-JAKD04O-COTCAN-M&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aEBkx7b5GoeiHy5JtWylLENVqOFfn_tajEB8yfr0_TdrLMVXiUi5c0aAoZDEALw_wcB) but Iā€™m really getting too old for risk taking, so I sold it. I have no oceans nearby, so [I do not own a sit-on-top kayak.](https://www.hikidspace.com/products/single-sit-on-top-kayak-with-detachable-aluminum-paddle?variant=43021681393911¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGKRusp2rVI-a4-ilLIn8Lzeb7Rkw3BarfGafue3WyTtR3abugmI2YaAv80EALw_wcB) I rent them in St Martin every year. Iā€™ve also got a couple canoes, but they arenā€™t kayaks. šŸ˜‰ No, you cannot roll a sot. They are designed to not roll, thatā€™s why some outfitters will rent them out for flat water use. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/77 "2022-07-29T18:34:56Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > A few months ago, I got a very bad burn on my thighs (on a gloomy, 100% overcast day, mind) after spending several hours paddling around the Pamlico Sound in such a boat. A friend asked me if my legs got burnt kayaking after hers did. I told her Iā€™ve been using a skirt to prevent that the past few years. Until we kayaked together, she didnā€™t realize I [meant this](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cockpit-Style-Kayaking-Special-Waterproof-Skirt-Splash-Proof-Apron-Accessories-Anti/710447274?gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIrPCLh5osWbrtBtKgwZ3NYK_&wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101174973&&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9006140&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=565973987&wl11=online&wl12=710447274&veh=sem&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIrPCLh5osWbrtBtKgwZ3NYK_&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGWZMpy4kD7sL22FdgacrakmPA7xyGMk7Hv8Ub0yjMtUpfyQMOvoN8aAg-CEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds), not [this.](https://www.jayli.com/shop/jhada-skirt-rayon-spandex-mudmee-tie-dye-paneled-maxi-skirt/?sku=PAE231Wskirt:PAE231-L&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGMgS302DxnFQQQasaS01VdjCqgTu_BGujNCm5Nt9eUsbGPcymhMAMaAoGJEALw_wcB) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/78 "2022-07-29T18:41:44Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > A friend asked me if my legs got burnt kayaking after hers did. I told her Iā€™ve been using a skirt to prevent that the past few years. Until we kayaked together, she didnā€™t realize I [meant this](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cockpit-Style-Kayaking-Special-Waterproof-Skirt-Splash-Proof-Apron-Accessories-Anti/710447274?gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIrPCLh5osWbrtBtKgwZ3NYK_&wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101174973&&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9006140&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=565973987&wl11=online&wl12=710447274&veh=sem&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIrPCLh5osWbrtBtKgwZ3NYK_&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGWZMpy4kD7sL22FdgacrakmPA7xyGMk7Hv8Ub0yjMtUpfyQMOvoN8aAg-CEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds), not [this.](https://www.jayli.com/shop/jhada-skirt-rayon-spandex-mudmee-tie-dye-paneled-maxi-skirt/?sku=PAE231Wskirt:PAE231-L&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGMgS302DxnFQQQasaS01VdjCqgTu_BGujNCm5Nt9eUsbGPcymhMAMaAoGJEALw_wcB) Thatā€™s pretty much what I picture when I think of a kayak, your lower body being totally covered from the waist down. Seems to be a minority setup now. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/79 "2022-07-29T19:04:29Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Seems to be a minority setup now. Not amongst ā€œrealā€ kayakers! ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449/80 "2022-07-29T19:55:22Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > A few months ago, I got a very bad burn on my thighs (on a gloomy, 100% overcast day, mind) after spending several hours paddling around the Pamlico Sound in such a boat. > > A friend asked me if my legs got burnt kayaking after hers did. I told her Iā€™ve been using a skirt to prevent that the past few years Until we kayaked together, she didnā€™t realize I [meant this](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cockpit-Style-Kayaking-Special-Waterproof-Skirt-Splash-Proof-Apron-Accessories-Anti/710447274?gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIrPCLh5osWbrtBtKgwZ3NYK_&wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101174973&&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9006140&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=565973987&wl11=online&wl12=710447274&veh=sem&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIrPCLh5osWbrtBtKgwZ3NYK_&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGWZMpy4kD7sL22FdgacrakmPA7xyGMk7Hv8Ub0yjMtUpfyQMOvoN8aAg-CEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds), not [this.](https://www.jayli.com/shop/jhada-skirt-rayon-spandex-mudmee-tie-dye-paneled-maxi-skirt/?sku=PAE231Wskirt:PAE231-L&gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aGMgS302DxnFQQQasaS01VdjCqgTu_BGujNCm5Nt9eUsbGPcymhMAMaAoGJEALw_wcB) ā€œItā€™s a kilt! A kilt! Manly dress! Itā€™s noā€™ a skirt, ye scunner!ā€ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tattoo-coverup-ever/968449.md?page=3)