# Worst Television Cross-over **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006 "2017-09-22T21:18:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/21 "2017-09-23T21:50:47Z")
There was an ‘Everybody Loves Raymond’ and ‘King of Queens’ crossover that should have worked. It looked good on paper, it was logical enough since the families lived in the same general geographical area, and it was actually kind of funny. But for some reason it irritated me more than amused me. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/22 "2017-09-23T22:03:12Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > There was an ‘Everybody Loves Raymond’ and ‘King of Queens’ crossover that should have worked. It looked good on paper, it was logical enough since the families lived in the same general geographical area, and it was actually kind of funny. But for some reason it irritated me more than amused me. Ray Romano actually appeared in four episodes of _The King of Queens_ and Kevin James appeared in two episodes of _Everybody Loves Raymond_ as Doug Heffernan. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/23 "2017-09-24T17:19:50Z")
Walter Cronkite appearing on “Mary Tyler Moore”. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/24 "2017-09-24T18:17:55Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > Walter Cronkite appearing on “Mary Tyler Moore”. Not Johnny Carson? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/25 "2017-09-24T18:32:37Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Not Johnny Carson? :dubious: I’m sure he was on Johnny Carson, too. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/26 "2017-09-24T18:45:48Z")
There was an “Alpha”/“Warehouse 13” crossover which didn’t work because the tones of the shows were quite different - “Warehouse 13” was light-hearted and basically a comedy/drama while “Alphas” was drama, with forays into grim. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/27 "2017-09-24T19:03:49Z")
> [@](#): > > There was an “Alpha”/“Warehouse 13” crossover which didn’t work because the tones of the shows were quite different - “Warehouse 13” was light-hearted and basically a comedy/drama while “Alphas” was drama, with forays into grim. I could be wrong as it has been years, but I think you might be thinking of the Eureka/Warehouse 13 crossover. (Both shows were similar in tone but the crossover wasn’t what it could have been.) A Warehouse 13 character DID show up on Alphas (Lindsay Wagner’s doctor) but I don’t recall anything being made of it. Much less a crossover than a character cameo. Alphas being much more serious in tone it’s probably just as well. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/28 "2017-09-24T19:09:01Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I’m sure he was on Johnny Carson, too. I was referring to Johnny’s “appearance” on _ **MTM** _. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/29 "2017-09-24T19:17:42Z")
It was a backdoor pilot and not officially a crossover but introducing Mork on Happy Days made no sense and is pretty unwatchable. Of course 11 year old me loved it. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/30 "2017-09-24T19:40:36Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It was a backdoor pilot and not officially a crossover but introducing Mork on Happy Days made no sense and is pretty unwatchable. Of course 11 year old me loved it. Which was what the writers said when series creator Garry Marshall said his eight year old son wanted to see a spaceman on “Happy Days” > **[Everything You Always Wanted To Know About The Making of Mork and Mindy](https://gizmodo.com/everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-the-making-o-1745756292)** > > For one year, Mork and Mindy was arguably the most successful science fiction TV show ever made. The comedy about an alien and his human best friend turned Robin Williams into a global sensation. How did this miracle happen, and why didn’t it last?... ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/31 "2017-09-24T19:44:48Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I was referring to Johnny’s “appearance” on _ **MTM** _. Whoosh ---
**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/32 "2017-09-24T19:58:10Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > I could be wrong as it has been years, but I think you might be thinking of the Eureka/Warehouse 13 crossover. (Both shows were similar in tone but the crossover wasn’t what it could have been.) A Warehouse 13 character DID show up on Alphas (Lindsay Wagner’s doctor) but I don’t recall anything being made of it. Much less a crossover than a character cameo. Alphas being much more serious in tone it’s probably just as well. I didn’t watch _Alphas_, but I saw all of _Warehouse 13_. If there had been a crossover, I wouldn’t have recognized it. _Eureka_’s crossover with _Warehouse 13_ made complete sense. I may have to get out our\* Eureka\* DVDs and watch the entire show again just because you brought it up. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/33 "2017-09-24T20:11:31Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > I could be wrong as it has been years, but I think you might be thinking of the Eureka/Warehouse 13 crossover. (Both shows were similar in tone but the crossover wasn’t what it could have been.) A Warehouse 13 character DID show up on Alphas (Lindsay Wagner’s doctor) but I don’t recall anything being made of it. Much less a crossover than a character cameo. Alphas being much more serious in tone it’s probably just as well. I was thinking of the Lindsay Wagner visit to Alphas, implicitly tying the universes together - I shouldn’t have called it a cross-over. The Eureka/Warehouse 13 crossover didn’t bother me - as you say, the tones were very similar for the two series. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/34 "2017-09-24T20:27:12Z")
> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#): > > Walter Cronkite appearing on “Mary Tyler Moore”. Those aren’t proper crossovers-they are cameos. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/35 "2017-09-24T20:37:12Z")
I don’t know about worse but I hate when the syndicated reruns show one half but not the other theres a magnum pi/murder she wrote cross over that ive never seen the first half of because magnums hard to find these days… Although the creators of diagnosis murder managed to have mannix and matlock join in the same episode (although I think it was because they were dicks irl friends …) but andy could barley talk in his 3 or 4 scenes … ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/36 "2017-09-24T20:56:53Z")
How about the muppet John Munch on The Muppet Show? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/37 "2017-09-24T21:01:41Z")
The recent _Hawaii 5-O_/_MacGyver_ was pretty lame, but not iconically so. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/38 "2017-09-24T23:35:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Those aren’t proper crossovers-they are cameos. As an aside, I just wanted to mention that JAKE 2.0 had Lee Majors show up for an episode as – well, a secret agent from the 1970s, who keeps dropping hints about his crazy athleticism but never winds up in a situation where bionics would come in handy. Because if he’s behind you and has his gun out, who _cares_ whether he’d also be able to beat you with superstrength? There’s not gonna be a fight! And we never see just how fast he can run across town, because, well, he has a sports car, like, _right there_. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/39 "2017-09-25T00:12:17Z")
Scooby Doo meets Batman and Robin. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006/40 "2017-09-25T00:34:38Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It was a backdoor pilot and not officially a crossover but introducing Mork on Happy Days made no sense and is pretty unwatchable. Of course 11 year old me loved it. I disagree. When it first showed up I thought “Oh boy, this is it. They’ve really fallen into the realm of Really Bad Show Ideas.” The phrase “jump the shark” hadn’t been invented yet\* And then I saw Robin Williams’ performance and it utterly blew me away. I don’t care whether it fits the show or not – it would’ve been a shame not to have that episode. \*I don’t think Fonzie had actually jumped the shark yet on Happy Days [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-television-cross-over/797006.md?page=3)