# Worst thing the Seinfeld characters did

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**Created:** [November 28, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205 "2009-11-28T04:33:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![koufax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@koufax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koufax)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/21 "2009-11-28T15:43:12Z")

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How about Jerry and friend “making out” during Schindler’s List.

Kinky…but not very good judgement.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/22 "2009-11-28T15:53:23Z")

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The cold blooded murder of Friedo ? And what they did to the corpse ?

Then again, he was weak, old, and stupid and deserved to die 🙂

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/23 "2009-11-28T15:54:40Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The “slipped one past the goalie” remark came from Jerry when Kramer mentioned he’d never knocked up a girl as if this was something all men do in their life. It baffled me as a teenager and it still baffles me.

That always baffled me too, especially when they asked Jerry if he’d ever done so and replied with something like, “Well, those records are permanently sealed.” And then right after that was when Jerry asked if Kramer had ever slipped one past the ol’ goalie" and was surprised that he hadn’t.  
So did Jerry have a bastard son living somewhere? Did he have a girlfriend who got knocked up and then have an abortion? It seemed like a big deal that Kramer had never had either one of those.  
But I guess when you go through girlfriends like these guys, you’re bound to slip up somewhere.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/24 "2009-11-28T16:01:06Z")

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/25 "2009-11-28T16:26:38Z")

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I would have to say:

For George, pushing the old lady in the walker and the kids out of the way during the fir

For Kramer: when he pretended to be a cop to get back a statue that Jerry thought the guy had taken and he didn’t take it

For Elaine: When Mr Pitt told her not to use ink and she did it anyway and her pen exploded and Mr Pitt wound up looing like Hitler at a VIP meeting. Not that that is so bad, but she could’ve told him

For Jerry: I would say mugging the old lady for the marble rye, though frankly I thought she deserved it

🙂

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/26 "2009-11-28T16:28:20Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> And then right after that was when Jerry asked if Kramer had ever slipped one past the ol’ goalie" and was surprised that he hadn’t.  
> So did Jerry have a bastard son living somewhere? Did he have a girlfriend who got knocked up and then have an abortion? It seemed like a big deal that Kramer had never had either one of those.  
> .

I can see your point now that you explain it like that, but to me it came across as a pregnancy scare, whether it resulted in an aboriton or adoption or just the woman got her period after all

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/27 "2009-11-28T17:13:36Z")

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Didn’t George actually murder a guy? I seem to remember one of the episodes ending with his hand reaching in and pulling someone’s life support or breathing tube. The upshot of that was pretty ambiguous, but I think George murdered a guy.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/28 "2009-11-28T17:25:31Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> Didn’t George actually murder a guy? I seem to remember one of the episodes ending with his hand reaching in and pulling someone’s life support or breathing tube. The upshot of that was pretty ambiguous, but I think George murdered a guy.

He pulled an IV, which I assumed was pain meds. So he didn’t kill him, but he was gonna be in pain for a while.

Elaine screwed up the Pendant Publishing deal by not giving Lipman his handkerchief, which effectly caused the company to go out of business. That’s pretty bad.

George and Jerry let a serial killer escape during the episode they went to L.A.

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**Author:** ![jasonh300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@jasonh300](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasonh300)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/29 "2009-11-28T17:40:20Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Intentional, Elaine’s attempt to hire a doggie hit man was pretty cold.

I really think this is the least horrible thing she could’ve done. Having the hitman (NEWMAN :dubious:)take the dog away and turning it loose was very humane.

Now if she would’ve hired a hitman to assassinate the do, it would be a different story.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/30 "2009-11-28T17:41:52Z")

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They also punctured the bubble boys bubble if I recall correctly. But bubble boy was an ass so that might not be such a bad thing.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/31 "2009-11-28T18:20:31Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> They also punctured the bubble boys bubble if I recall correctly. But bubble boy was an ass so that might not be such a bad thing.

Wasn’t bubble boy choking George at the time?  
Moops!

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/32 "2009-11-28T18:34:22Z")

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> [@BrandonR](#):
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> Spoiler boxes for a show that ended 11 years ago? :dubious:

Well, the episode I’m mentioning is pretty much the only one I ever saw.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/33 "2009-11-28T18:35:22Z")

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I thought the show that was the most morally revolting didn’t actually involve something the characters did, but it really, really offended me. It was when they went to Los Angeles to talk about Jerry doing a show about nothing, and all of a sudden there was a storyline that popped up about a murdered woman and the police were looking for Kramer as a suspected serial killer. For a comedy about nothing, for characters who just continually mess up in a comical fashion - why the HELL would they just casually insert a serial-murder storyline? Like, yeah, so MANY women are murdered by serial killers in L.A., it’s just a part of life out here, can’t drive down any highway without seeing a body by the road - hey, wouldn’t it be hilarious if they thought Kramer was a suspect, he’s ugly and deranged looking? Ha-ha-ha. No, I didn’t think that was funny, at all. The lives of women are so cheap? They’re snuffed out all the time, they’re roadkill out there in L.A.? And since it’s no big deal, put it into a comedy like Seinfeld?

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/34 "2009-11-28T18:37:33Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I remember Kramer being proud of having “slipped one past the goalie” and knocked up his girlfriend. As if this is a light-hearted prank to josh about around the water cooler on Monday morning.

I always thought a great gag for the last episode would have been to have had that woman walk into the courtroom with a kid that looked just like Kramer.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/35 "2009-11-28T18:51:19Z")

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Kramer let his “Kramerica” intern take the rap for his oil-balloon fiasco. At the end of the episode, as they’re gathered around the table at the diner, one of them asks what happened to the intern. Kramer: “He’ll be gone for a long time.” Basically admitting that his intern is in jail for his misdeed.

Worse than that, he refused to wear the ribbon during the AIDS walk.

Elaine at least contemplated randomly murdering a cable guy who came to her apartment. In the scene, her voiceover comments reveal she’s thinking (paraphrasing): “I could club him to death with this lamp…and nobody would ever know.”

While George was certainly a cheapskate for ordering the defective envelopes, he couldn’t have known that they would kill Susan. However, what was truly horrible was when he called Marisa Tomei to ask for a date on the VERY SAME DAY his fiancee dropped dead. That was cold.

Jerry made out with his girlfriend during “Schindler’s List.”

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/36 "2009-11-28T19:33:48Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> [spoiler]That was the best thing they ever did. Every time they interferred in someone’s life, they screwed it up. Best thing that ever happened to that mugging victim is that the gang stayed out of it. Hell, the prosecutor at their trial brought in a bunch of witnesses to testify how Jerry, et al., wrecked their lives. They should have been witnesses for the defense.
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> That’s why the last episode sucked.[/spoiler]

I definitely think their actions in that episode were a little overboard even for them. But maybe your right, maybe they should have gotten an award for NOT interfering.

How about that episode where Kramer and Newman destroy Kennedy’s golf clubs? Not only were they worth tens of thousands of dollars but they were of historical value as well.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/37 "2009-11-28T19:44:51Z")

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I don’t get what they were _supposed_ to do regarding the mugging. Jump in and take on an armed man? By gathering ironclad video evidence, the prosecution should be _thanking_ them.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/38 "2009-11-28T19:47:00Z")

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> [@The New and Improved Superman](#):
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> Kramer let his “Kramerica” intern take the rap for his oil-balloon fiasco. At the end of the episode, as they’re gathered around the table at the diner, one of them asks what happened to the intern. Kramer: “He’ll be gone for a long time.” Basically admitting that his intern is in jail for his misdeed.
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> Worse than that, he refused to wear the ribbon during the AIDS walk.

Really? That’s worse?  
I thought Kramer had a point in that episode.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/39 "2009-11-28T20:20:41Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I thought the show that was the most morally revolting didn’t actually involve something the characters did, but it really, really offended me. It was when they went to Los Angeles to talk about Jerry doing a show about nothing, and all of a sudden there was a storyline that popped up about a murdered woman and the police were looking for Kramer as a suspected serial killer. For a comedy about nothing, for characters who just continually mess up in a comical fashion - why the HELL would they just casually insert a serial-murder storyline? Like, yeah, so MANY women are murdered by serial killers in L.A., it’s just a part of life out here, can’t drive down any highway without seeing a body by the road - hey, wouldn’t it be hilarious if they thought Kramer was a suspect, he’s ugly and deranged looking? Ha-ha-ha. No, I didn’t think that was funny, at all. The lives of women are so cheap? They’re snuffed out all the time, they’re roadkill out there in L.A.? And since it’s no big deal, put it into a comedy like Seinfeld?

I think you might be taking that a little too seriously (although it was a pretty crappy episode regardless.) They actually had another serial killer plot set in New York with the “Lopper.” (I prefer the denoginizer myself)

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-thing-the-seinfeld-characters-did/519205/40 "2009-11-28T20:41:24Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I think you might be taking that a little too seriously (although it was a pretty crappy episode regardless.) They actually had another serial killer plot set in New York with the “Lopper.” (I prefer the denoginizer myself)

Not to mention that that episode had a couple of scenes that took a stab at bad acting in police procedurals. Was CSI Miami around when they did that episode?

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