# Worst TNG episode ever? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 17, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414 "2010-10-17T05:34:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/261 "2010-10-22T19:07:15Z")
Gray cat, craving cheeseburger. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/262 "2010-10-22T19:19:34Z")
All your bases, belonging to us. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/263 "2010-10-22T19:23:39Z")
Opal, being greeted by Dopers. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/264 "2010-10-22T19:28:26Z")
Hampsters, dancing ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/265 "2010-10-22T19:30:24Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > All your bases, belonging to us. I concede defeat. There ain’t none better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/266 "2010-10-22T20:00:45Z")
I keep checking back to this thread to see if this silly _Darmok_ banter has ended and hoping for some intelligent discussion… :dubious::dubious::dubious: ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/267 "2010-10-22T20:11:22Z")
Fried Dough Ho, frowning, hands on hips. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/268 "2010-10-22T20:13:20Z")
Well, we’ve already established that “Shades of Gray” and “Sub Rosa” were the worst episodes ever, so there’s nothing more to discuss and we’ve moved on. 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/269 "2010-10-22T22:38:05Z")
Heretic. Worst ever is “The Outrageous Okona”. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/270 "2010-10-22T22:55:05Z")
No, no, no! For that you must die. It’s “Code of Honor,” obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/271 "2010-10-22T23:37:49Z")
I defy you to tell me that a Star Trek episode with Joe Piscopo in it is not the worst ever. ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/272 "2010-10-22T23:46:12Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Heretic. Worst ever is “The Outrageous Okona”. No no no no. We have already established that Bill Campbell is a good guy and also [gorgeous](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2854394624/nm0001004). Any episode with that kind of interest can’t be _that_ bad. Hey, our own **Anamorphic** even made a movie with him, so there! So it’s not a _bad_ episode, just dumb. “Shades of Gray” was a clip show and “Sub Rosa” was some kind of cheesy romance novel pasted into _Star Trek_. Those were the worst because they weren’t even trying. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/273 "2010-10-22T23:53:26Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I defy you to tell me that a Star Trek episode with Joe Piscopo in it is not the worst ever. The mere presence of Joe Piscopo isn’t enough. It’s Joe Piscopo being portrayed as actually amusing that really sinks things. I mean, if he was in an episode where he was an evil alien who was gruesomely torn limb from limb by a pack of wild beasts at the end, that arguably could be one of the very best episodes. It would likely win a host of awards, in fact. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/274 "2010-10-23T01:15:43Z")
Death Rays, 1920s Style. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/275 "2010-10-23T01:23:55Z")
> [@a35362](#): > > No no no no. We have already established that Bill Campbell is a good guy and also [gorgeous](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2854394624/nm0001004). Any episode with that kind of interest can’t be _that_ bad. Hey, our own **Anamorphic** even made a movie with him, so there! > > So it’s not a _bad_ episode, just dumb. “Shades of Gray” was a clip show and “Sub Rosa” was some kind of cheesy romance novel pasted into _Star Trek_. Those were the worst because they weren’t even trying. Shades of Gray was a writer’s strike problem. I don’t know what their excuse could be for Sub Rosa. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/276 "2010-10-23T01:33:17Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Death Rays, 1920s Style. Fried Dough Ho, Stamping Her Foot. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/277 "2010-10-23T03:04:12Z")
C’mon… Orgasmatron PS3’s outstunk orgasmatron Scottish plasma ghosts any day. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/278 "2010-10-23T03:16:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Shades of Gray was a writer’s strike problem. I don’t know what their excuse could be for Sub Rosa. Apparently, Jeri Taylor (the episode’s writer) really likes Gothic Romances. She even tried to go back to them with Janeway’s holonovel in Voyager. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/279 "2010-10-23T03:58:32Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > [LaForge](http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Geordi_La_Forge) started out as an LT (jr grade), but he did get promoted an awful lot. For some reason I was instantly reminded of Rush Limbaugh’s attack on Lando Calrissian, and how he claimed he was appointed to the Bespin Mining Facility, because of affirmitive action. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414/280 "2010-10-23T05:56:40Z")
> [@antonio107](#): > > For some reason I was instantly reminded of Rush Limbaugh’s attack on Lando Calrissian, and how he claimed he was appointed to the Bespin Mining Facility, because of affirmitive action. 😃 Which is funny, because the canon explanation, IIRC, is that he won it in a card game. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-tng-episode-ever/557414.md?page=15)