# Worthless shithead New Orleans looters.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379 "2005-08-31T02:46:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/361 "2005-09-02T10:53:06Z")

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Well you and I must be recieving different news coverage and your’s may be true but just ponder what America looks like to outsiders now. I didn’t make up my perception.

We have constant coverage of people screaming about lack of food, about dead bodies in the streets and about the need to escape. We have had a strange lack of GW on the News.

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**Author:** ![acadian\_driftwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@acadian\_driftwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/acadian_driftwood)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/362 "2005-09-02T11:02:41Z")

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I have been hard on the looters here before - but i am increasingly convinced that those bastards are the only people in this country who know what they are doing.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/363 "2005-09-02T11:54:50Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> … but just ponder what America looks like to outsiders now.

That hardly matters now.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/364 "2005-09-02T12:44:25Z")

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Oh it does. Remember there are many countries friendly to America out here.

There are also many who are not.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/365 "2005-09-02T13:13:01Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> How fucking useless is the US govt that they can coordinate a war in Iraq yet can’t help people in their own country.

Well you see how well Iraq is going.

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**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/366 "2005-09-02T13:26:03Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> Well you and I must be recieving different news coverage and your’s may be true but just ponder what America looks like to outsiders now. I didn’t make up my perception.
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> We have constant coverage of people screaming about lack of food, about dead bodies in the streets and about the need to escape. We have had a strange lack of GW on the News.

We get BBC America and I agree wth what you’re getting. Totally different perceptive than what CNN and the others are pumping out.

Don’t know what’s true anymore, except it’s a mess.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/367 "2005-09-02T14:13:31Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> Oh it does. Remember there are many countries friendly to America out here.
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> There are also many who are not.

Maybe we are looking at this from different angles, **CK**.

The lives in peril, right now, are more important than the finger-wagging and tut-tuts of a foreign government.

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/368 "2005-09-02T19:26:44Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> After this whole affair is over, a lot of people’s hoods will be showing. It will be that much harder to get resources to help the black poor of NO get jobs, education, health care. People already inclined to hate will find plenty to justify their bigotry.

I do wonder how this affair will affect race relations in the future.

From watching the news, it does appear some blacks are living up to some stereotypes. We have a city in crisis, and rather than pull together and make the best of a situation, you have looting within 24 hours of the disaster. You have virtual warzones in the streets (where cops are refusing to go), rapes, murders, and destruction in the shelters (meant to _help_ the people), shooting at rescue workers (which I hope turns out to be an urban legend).

When I was watching it with some friends visiting from the Philippines, they were asking me why only the blacks were causing problems, and not trying to help the situation. Quite blunt: didn’t even bother with the “I don’t mean to sound racist” disclaimer. If people from outside the country who aren’t exposed to our stereotypes observed this, what about others?

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/369 "2005-09-03T00:43:11Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> We have constant coverage of people screaming about lack of food,

Those people are a trifle hard to take seriously when you consider what lardasses many of them are.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/370 "2005-09-03T00:53:47Z")

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From watching the news, it does appear some blacks are living up to some stereotypes. We have a city in crisis, and rather than pull together and make the best of a situation, you have looting within 24 hours of the disaster. You have virtual warzones in the streets (where cops are refusing to go), rapes, murders, and destruction in the shelters (meant to help the people), shooting at rescue workers (which I hope turns out to be an urban legend).

> [@holmes](#):
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> We get BBC America and I agree wth what you’re getting. Totally different perceptive than what CNN and the others are pumping out.
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> Don’t know what’s true anymore, except it’s a mess.

Agreed - the news reports here aren’t attempting to create their own ‘total casualties’ stuff, because they know it’s spurious. They’re doing individial stories, from all along the coast. And to be honest, that’s where the reportage should be - telling us how people are actually dealling with the situation.  
When I was watching it with some friends visiting from the Philippines, they were asking me why only the blacks were causing problems,

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/371 "2005-09-03T19:51:50Z")

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> [@Random](#):
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> According to CNN and other reports, the lawlessness continues to escalate. Gangs of armed men are raping (and sometimes killing) women in New Orleans.
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> **Diogenes** , would it be okay with you if the governor of Louisiana asked President Bush to send in the military, with orders to stop these gangs by any means necessary, including deadly force? In other words, by shooting them in the head with assault rifles, until all of them are either dead, disabled, or on their knees, with weapons dropped?
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> Amazingly, I’m not entirely sure that you will unreservedly agree with this. Assuming that you do, though, can you accept the possibility that an armed, aggressive response to the first evdence of lawlessness (looting of nonessentials, robbery of hospitals) might have deterred those who have now progessed to armed gang rape and murder?

Rape has nothing to do with stealling televisions. Of course it is justified to use deadly force to stop rape. No, it is still not ok to shoot people for stealing televisions.

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