# Worthless shithead New Orleans looters.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379 "2005-08-31T02:46:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/21 "2005-08-31T05:20:40Z")

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With martial law in effect can the police/National Guard _shoot_ looters? 😕 I’m watching Nancy Grace and waiting for her to suggest that.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/22 "2005-08-31T05:30:54Z")

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> [@hillbilly queen](#):
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> I don’t approve of the looting of other merchandise, but it’s not hurting anyone. It’s just something that happens when there’s a disaster. The store owners are covered by insurance.

Just as any other store owner is covered by insurance. Oh, wait, those stores pay insurance like any other business. Being dry means the rates aren’t affected, right? They aren’t affected by the claims of other stores? If there is some water on the floor, that store’s claims don’t affect all the other clients of the insurance companies.

Not hurting anyone? Don’t ever complain about your car insurance going up because of drunks plowing into crowds of schoolchildren. It’s totally seperate, right?

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/23 "2005-08-31T06:10:39Z")

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You’re unable to address the main question, so you take one sentence out of my entire post, and pick it apart.  
Okay, so maybe some people are having their lives affected by this looting. But, I seriously doubt, it was _those_ people, the OP was thinking of. So you’ve made a point, feel better?

You can’t force someone to be shocked over something that they don’t find shocking. It’s bad, and I wish it wasn’t happening. It’s scary, that these people are in such a frenzy to get all this free stuff, that they’re not even thinking about how dangerous it is. I saw one woman, set her toddler down into the filthy water, so she could carry more stuff.  
But instead of making me angry, it makes me very sad.

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/24 "2005-08-31T06:26:17Z")

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We only loot food, can’t you tell?

Oh, that stereo? It’s to pay for food.

Those gold necklaces? I plan to trade them for food for my 38 person family.  
We couldn’t leave the city because we have 92 babies. Our oldest son went out for “food” to save our lives. Thank Og he came back with $122,000 worth of electronics.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/25 "2005-08-31T06:27:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The starving and desperate excepted, what a busted up barrel of dirty, low-down, ass-up, thievin’ fools.

This is how I pretty much see it, and I knew that the “but they’re poor!” would come up. I tend to sympathize with the poor, but that’s no excuse for taking things like jewelry.

Real essentials I can honestly see as I bet I’d be doing the same thing(and I don’t live in a poor household), but anything else? No. Just no. It’s repulsive.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/26 "2005-08-31T06:35:30Z")

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> [@hillbilly queen](#):
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> You can’t force someone to be shocked over something that they don’t find shocking. It’s bad, and I wish it wasn’t happening.

Nobody here has actually claimed to be “shocked” by it. Just pissed at it, **and** at the justifications that these people are using, giving such comments to news crews and being shameless about it. One doesn’t have to be shocked by it to be disgusted and/or angered by it.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/27 "2005-08-31T06:45:56Z")

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I’m in the “ **Who Cares**?” camp. This shit is _wrecked_ - New Orleans no longer exists. These people are stealing stuff that will be completely destroyed in another day or two anyway; all of this is going to be written off and junked. Between the filth, the disease, the gators, and everything else, these people are probably fucked anyway.

Who cares?

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/28 "2005-08-31T06:49:17Z")

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Well, **VCO3** , you migh have had a point, if gold dissolved in water.

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/29 "2005-08-31T06:55:50Z")

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And as much as I would have liked to here the response…  
New Orleans IS NOT JUNKED.

It will be rebuilt. Better than before.

There is no excuse for stealing _anything but food or water_.

> [@](#):
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> Between the filth, the disease, the gators, and everything else, these people are probably fucked anyway.

Yeah, I guess you’re right.

The _insurance_ companies will cover the jewelry and whatever left dry electronics.

So it’s all FREE!!!  
WOOO HOOO!

LET’S ALL GO COLLECT SOME FREE SHIT!!!

DIBS ON THE FERARRI!

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/30 "2005-08-31T06:56:56Z")

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here=hear

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/31 "2005-08-31T08:18:15Z")

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Ferrari

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/32 "2005-08-31T08:43:17Z")

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> [@Mama Tiger](#):
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> And what’s most useless about the looting is where are they going to put this stuff? In their apartments that will be flooded out by tomorrow? Most of it is going to just get ruined/washed away all over again.
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> Worthless shitheads indeed.

Thank you for saying it before me. Amen.

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/33 "2005-08-31T08:44:24Z")

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From the NO [Times-Picayune](http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html#075278) :

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> Children’s Hospital under seige  
> Tuesday, 11:45 p.m.
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> Late Tuesday, Gov. Blanco spokeswoman Denise Bottcher described a disturbing scene unfolding in uptown New Orleans, where looters were trying to break into Children’s Hospital.
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> Bottcher said the director of the hospital fears for the safety of the staff and the 100 kids inside the hospital. The director said the hospital is locked, but that the looters were trying to break in and had gathered outside the facility.

To be shamefully honest, it is really _hard_ not be racist when watching these savages.

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**Author:** ![Kyle\_Rayner1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58f4c7/32.png) [@Kyle\_Rayner1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyle_Rayner1)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/34 "2005-08-31T09:03:31Z")

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Yeah this looting shit is fucked up. I can’t believe there risking their lives though just for a fucking stereo. I mean they could drown, get attacked, by a gator, get really sick. I mean with mosquitoes alone that are bound to breed with these new conditions it would be stupid as hell to basically risk it for a new fucking TV.

I can understand risking your life for food, that’s cool, but for a radio or something that’s just fucked up.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/35 "2005-08-31T09:43:17Z")

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[In which black people “loot” and white people “find bread”](http://www.livejournal.com/community/blackfolk/2420240.html)

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**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/36 "2005-08-31T09:57:34Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> [In which black people “loot” and white people “find bread”](http://www.livejournal.com/community/blackfolk/2420240.html)

So be it, but I haven’t seen a single non black looting amongst the ~10 minutes of looting videos I’ve seen (although I have heard that Fat City was being looted, which probably would be ~50 percent white if I were to guess). It’s not a racist thing, just a fact. I almost hope to see videos of whites stealing jeans and jewelry so as to not make it an issue.

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**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/37 "2005-08-31T10:22:31Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> [In which black people “loot” and white people “find bread”](http://www.livejournal.com/community/blackfolk/2420240.html)

Is there any reason to believe that the same person captioned those two photos?

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/38 "2005-08-31T11:04:40Z")

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> [@BabaBooey](#):
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> So be it, but I haven’t seen a single non black looting

That’s cuz the negoes would just re-loot from the innocent white women trying to feed their kids.  
/hyperbole

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/39 "2005-08-31T11:39:42Z")

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This thread, and the veiled and naked racism within it, make me sick.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worthless-shithead-new-orleans-looters/319379/40 "2005-08-31T11:43:28Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> What would downtown Baghdad look like if it was completely flooded by the Tigris and the Euphrates?

I believe there wouldn’t be any difference. It wouldn’t be significantly worst. I’m not surprised at all. As soon as no order is enforced, people loot. Everywhere. It’s just a reminder of what humanity is really like under the varnish of civilization.

That’s minor, though. More frightening is the fact that everywhere, if you decide you want to massacre, torture, exterminate, you’ll find plenty of enthusiastic volunteers, and even much more people vaguely reluctant who will do it anyway.

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