# Would a US state want to join Canada, post-Roe? would Canada want one?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 25, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832 "2022-06-25T13:55:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832/61 "2022-06-28T12:09:42Z")

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The benefit to Washington would be to become part of a forward looking, functional nation and leave the gun totin’ fundies with their anachronistic constitution in the rear view mirror.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832/62 "2022-06-28T12:31:22Z")

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I see switching to a parliamentary political systems as a plus, although I’d have to get used to it.

But i don’t see Washington wanting to join Canada, nor Canada taking it.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832/63 "2022-06-28T14:48:46Z")

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They could have that with independence as well, if they are leaving the United States joining Canada was a province is not their only option.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832/64 "2022-06-29T04:47:24Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Why would the federal and provincial governments agree to have a special provision in the Constitution of Canada for Washington province, different from all the other provinces, providing for a republican provincial constitution?

Dude–why of course it’d be treated differently. Haven’t you ever heard of American Exceptionalism? Yeah, I know, Washington would be Canadian at that point but … so… um… exceptionalism squared!

Ha!  
Eh?

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> All I know is that in threads about the Canadian political process, I’ve seen some US posters on these boards say that the lack of a vote in the primary is a deal-breaker for them, personally. I expect it would be an issue.

I think that might have something to do with America’s rigid two-party system. Where you guys have a legitimate 4 or 5 parties (or whatever) to choose from in your elections, we in the States only have two choices to represent the entire continuum of US politics so it’s much more important that the guy (or gal) from your favorite faction is selected to run. Thus the importance of primaries in the US.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832/65 "2022-06-29T05:08:44Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> In the weird scenario where WA was just completely independent, what is the actual benefit for them in joining Canada?

Deleting my original answer (human rights) because I didn’t effectively take heed of the “completely independent” part. Instead I was thinking only of the human rights advantages Canada has over the US. But if WA was independent they could have enacted better human rights themself.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-a-us-state-want-to-join-canada-post-roe-would-canada-want-one/966832/66 "2022-06-29T11:36:04Z")

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I honestly didn’t know that not having primaries would be a deal breaker to some and we should be re-thinking those processes anyway. Virginia Republicans, for example, flipped the governor’s office without using a public primary.

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