# Would ex-President Trump run in 2024?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 17, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373 "2019-09-17T13:29:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/61 "2021-02-26T20:17:07Z")

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> [@Napier](#):
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> For what? What could we do about this?

On big question is how aggressively a Biden Justice Department will challenge voter suppression laws and Trump/GOP campaign skulduggery. The Administration is not without tools to challenge discriminatory voting practices. And even if those efforts end up being blunted by Trump judges, it will shine a spotlight on what they’re up to.

But if the Administration backs down out of fear of being seen as “partisan”, then we’re doomed.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/62 "2021-02-27T10:13:08Z")

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I hear that Trump has already declared victory in 2024 (unless, of course, the election is stolen).

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/63 "2021-02-27T17:27:04Z")

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> [@Napier](#):
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> > [@survinga](#):
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> > Democrats need to understand what they are up against.
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> For what? What could we do about this?
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> I think if we throw away all concerns about governing and respecting law and order, we could fight like they do, but we are not experienced at that and seem to have a large share of people who would not want to do that. Moreover, there’s still a huge Republican advantage in the Electoral College, and at least presently also in gerrymandering and in the Supreme Court.

There’s only five states at issue here, and one of them already has the formula down. The other four (Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) need to follow suit, and find their own Stacey Abrams.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/64 "2021-02-28T13:56:20Z")

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for VP he will probably pick young sexy blond female under 45. Ivanka will be high on the list.

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**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/65 "2021-03-01T14:56:17Z")

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> [@Napier](#):
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> For what? What could we do about this?

The starting point would be to nuke the filibuster, and pass legislation that helps people (i.e., voters). Currently, Democrats have a situation where we have a majority on both houses of Congress, and the White House. And we’ll run out of options on legislation unless we nuke the filibuster. We already have the cards stacked against us, as you laid out in your post. We should at least do things that put Democrats in a better position to govern when we have majorities everywhere (which doesn’t happen everyday).

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/66 "2021-03-01T16:37:17Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> What I try to keep hanging my hat on is that he will be a 78-year-old man who’s had a bout with severe COVID-19, is about 20-30 pounds overweight, doesn’t sleep well, and aside from avoiding alcohol, doesn’t seem to take great care of himself.

Really people need to stop hanging their hats on that, just as on that “oh, there are going to be more minorities, and the new young voters are going to make a difference”.

We need to _beat_ his gang. Not count on a just universe to save us.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/67 "2021-03-01T16:40:42Z")

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I think you’re right.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/68 "2021-03-04T18:37:49Z")

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As do I. Demographics is not necessarily destiny, or at least not soon enough, in American politics.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/69 "2021-03-07T15:54:54Z")

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> **[Trump says he'll campaign against Murkowski in Alaska next year | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/06/politics/murkowski-trump-endorsement-alaska-senate-race-2022/index.html)**
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> Former President Donald Trump said Saturday he plans to campaign against GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski in Alaska next year when she's up for reelection, intensifying his pledges to oppose GOP lawmakers who have bucked him.

Whether or not he actually does, especially if it looks like she’s going to win, is another thing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/70 "2021-04-16T13:47:10Z")

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> **[What Liz Cheney has figured out about Donald Trump and 2024 | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/liz-cheney-donald-trump-2024/index.html)**
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> On Wednesday, Rep. Liz Cheney was asked a straightforward question by Fox News' Neil Cavuto: "If Donald Trump were the 2024 nominee, would you support him?" And the Wyoming House Republican gave an equally straightforward answer: "I would not."

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/71 "2021-04-16T20:52:25Z")

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Seems like Trump has been spending far more time and effort attacking Republicans than Democrats thus far. Is that a bad thing?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/72 "2021-04-17T06:33:59Z")

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Not a bad thing by a long shot in my book. And I truly hope he runs in 2024. He would get crushed in the general election.

Ron DeSantis OTOH, I worry about.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/73 "2021-04-26T20:57:51Z")

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1. Trump will not end up in jail.

2. The fact he hates the job would not stop him from running, if only to seek attention and build a dynastic brand, regardless of whether he could win.

3. Things change. But he could run. He could win. He has kept substantial support, as crazy as that seems to 90% of Canadians.

4. Things do not always improve.

> **[Opinion | Yes, it’s possible the GOP is worse post-Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/26/yes-its-possible-gop-is-worse-post-trump/)**
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> Republicans repeatedly show they stand outside decent society.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/74 "2021-04-26T23:08:37Z")

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> Seems like Trump has been spending far more time and effort attacking Republicans than Democrats thus far. Is that a bad thing?

If not for the obvious danger of him actually winning again, I would really be enjoying the way Donald is dicing up the current group of GOP aspirants, stymying their personal ambitions for eight years and letting them know in no uncertain terms that their proper places are immediately behind him with lips fully puckered.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/75 "2021-04-26T23:48:29Z")

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My prediction: He ain’t running in 2024, even he’s not a convict by then. That’s all. I’ll try and make it back to the thread in '24 to see how I did.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/76 "2021-04-27T04:39:33Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Ron DeSantis OTOH, I worry about.

I’m not concerned about DeSantis. He strikes me as another Scott Walker—a charisma-free governor who looks electable on paper, but collapses under national media scrutiny.

I also believe that Trump’s appeal among his fanbase is non-transferable. It’s a personality cult, and there’s only one personality. Even if Trump personally anoints DeSantis and says, “Obey him as you would me,” it’s not going to work. GOP turnout will be below 2020 levels if Trump doesn’t run.

At the moment, I don’t think he’ll run again. He’s enjoying hanging out in Mar-a-Lago. He can play golf every day, and Republicans make pilgrimages to Florida to kiss his ass. He and Don Jr. can rule the ~~galaxy~~ party as father and son. He gets all the former-president perks and doesn’t have to do any actual work. Why mess that up? If he felt ignored and marginalized, I could see him running again just for the attention, but right now he’s swimming in attention.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/77 "2021-04-27T17:03:45Z")

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And how does this differ from when he was president? Doing actual work? Don’t be silly. True there was no golf course at the White House, but there were TV sets and he spent most of his time there.

My only question is whether he can keep his growing dementia under wraps. If he does, he would likely get elected, given the amount of voter suppression states are adding.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/78 "2021-04-27T17:34:31Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> And how does this differ from when he was president? Doing actual work? Don’t be silly. True there was no golf course at the White House, but there were TV sets and he spent most of his time there.

I’m basing this on Bob Woodward’s books on Trump. He did have things he was obligated to do and and show up for, even if he thought they were stupid. He sat through briefings and meetings and traveled to meet foreign leaders. In the second book, _Rage_, he complains to Woodward that he’s been “working [his] ass off” due to the pandemic. He probably goofed off more than any other POTUS, but he couldn’t get out of _every_ responsibility.

Now he has no responsibilities at all, not even petty ones, and does only what he feels like doing. Remember how Trump walked out of a Medal of Freedom ceremony? He’ll never be bothered with stuff like that again.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/79 "2021-04-27T17:39:09Z")

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The locals can get Trump on the 2024 state ballots, then he can run a front porch campaign from Mara-Largo. Maybe do a couple of rallies where they would be profitable.

His purpose is only to siphon off enough votes to ensure a Republican loss. It will send the message that he is still in control. Clearly an effortless, petty gesture. Very Trump.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-ex-president-trump-run-in-2024/840373/80 "2021-04-27T19:13:59Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> My only question is whether he can keep his growing dementia under wraps. If he does, he would likely get elected, given the amount of voter suppression states are adding.

I was kind of wondering if something like this would explain the lack of rallies; ill health, mentally or physically.

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