# Would Her Majesty please take us back?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 10, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634 "2020-10-10T13:49:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/1 "2020-10-10T13:49:40Z")

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So sorry about that bit about the taxes. We had a good run, but the American Experiment ended in failure – a republic we could not keep.

Could England reclaim her wayward colony? What would it take, short of a reverse-revolutionary war? Reparations tea? How about a [change.org](http://change.org) petition?

We’ll bring money. Better food. A wonderful and exotic accent. A few million problematic residents, but you’ve dealt with unruly miscreants before. No car bombs.

Take us back?

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/2 "2020-10-10T13:53:32Z")

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Interesting idea in theory. One big problem is that we wouldn’t be going back to QEII, we’d be going back to Boris Johnson.

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**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/3 "2020-10-10T16:27:52Z")

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I think we’ve got some other stuff that’s claiming our attention right now.

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/4 "2020-10-10T16:45:05Z")

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Shouldn’t it be the other way around? What if we were able to add five more states; England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Ireland, and Scotland? We’d be much closer to other European countries and now we’ll be able to buy timeshares in these new states. What could go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/5 "2020-10-10T17:26:44Z")

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Ireland? Are you not aware that Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/6 "2020-10-10T19:18:38Z")

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We could declare war on and then quickly surrender to Canada instead. Maybe they would annex us as the crucial point of the terms we offer.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/7 "2020-10-10T19:22:11Z")

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Treaty of Paris, 1783: **"No Backsies!"**

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/8 "2020-10-10T19:35:51Z")

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Yep, Boris, aka “Trump-lite” who is just as xenophobic but perhaps less overtly racist.

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**Author:** ![filmstar-en](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@filmstar-en](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmstar-en)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/9 "2020-10-11T02:56:14Z")

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Our own Boris, the messy blonde haired maverick, is busy leading the UK in a heroic charge in our own path towards self destruction.

At the end of this year we will fall headlong over an economic cliff face in pursuit of freedom from all rules imposed by all those pesky EU types with their Federalist leanings.

He intends to take away the pain of his farcical handling of the Covid crisis by shooting the economy in the foot by tearing up all trade agreements with the EU. He got the idea for the madman approach to negotiation from somewhere, maybe he was inspired by ‘The Art of the Deal’.

Boris has assured us that the rest of the world is quite excited about this and will be beating path to our door to sign new trade deals.

So, if any trans-Atlantic cousins would soon like to buy a slightly used set of crown jewels…

Much as I feel for the troubles the US has had with its politics over the past few years, I don’t think the UK has fared much better.

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**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/10 "2020-10-11T04:00:11Z")

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> [@filmstar-en](#):
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> Much as I feel for the troubles the US has had with its politics over the past few years, I don’t think the UK has fared much better.

Okay, okay. Can the Queen can just personally adopt us as her foster children instead? I hear y’all have a pretty nice palace or two. Otherwise, who’s left? The Scandinavians probably wouldn’t want either of us. Maybe Canada, as above? Or Free Scotland? Or North Korea? Surely someone out there still respects and wants us. Right?

Hello?

Anyone?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/11 "2020-10-11T04:53:10Z")

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> [@Reply](#):
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> Okay, okay. Can the Queen can just personally adopt us as her foster children instead? I hear y’all have a pretty nice palace or two. Otherwise, who’s left? The Scandinavians probably wouldn’t want either of us. Maybe Canada, as above? Or Free Scotland? Or North Korea? Surely someone out there still respects and wants us. Right?
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> Hello?
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> Anyone? &nbsp;

We’d love to help but we’re real busy right now planning a huge 3000-mile long border wall. We figure we can get the US to pay for it by making a big deal about our socialized health care and commie-style social services. Clearly, millions of citizens, thus oppressed, will be trying to sneak into the US.

Best regards,  
Canada

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/12 "2020-10-11T11:19:53Z")

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> [@Reply](#):
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> Okay, okay. Can the Queen can just personally adopt us as her foster children instead? I hear y’all have a pretty nice palace or two. Otherwise, who’s left? The Scandinavians probably wouldn’t want either of us. Maybe Canada, as above? Or Free Scotland? Or North Korea? Surely someone out there still respects and wants us. Right?
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> Hello?
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> Anyone?

Maybe Germany? It would be ironic if the US becomes the leader of the fascist countries while Germany becomes the leader of the free world.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/13 "2020-10-11T12:02:41Z")

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I know it’s a long shot, but maybe youse guys could consider getting adopted by New Zealand? Jacinda Ardern has justifiably been elevated into the global spotlight as a true leader.

> **[The small-town takeout store worker who won over New Zealand -- and the world...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/10/asia/jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-election-intl-hnk-dst/index.html)**
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> Jacinda Ardern has attracted headlines, including for her swift action against coronavirus. But she is not without her detractors for the upcoming New Zealand election.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/14 "2020-10-11T13:57:00Z")

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Well the Raiders went back to Oakland. 🙂 And now are in LV.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/15 "2020-10-11T17:37:54Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I know it’s a long shot, but maybe youse guys could consider getting adopted by New Zealand?

Can I vote for this? My hairdresser asked me why all American politicians are old men. I don’t have an answer for her.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/16 "2020-10-11T20:09:45Z")

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Pelosi? The 2nd or 3rd most powerful person in America. Harris? AOC? Omar? Tlaib? “The Squad”.

I mean you have to be living under a rock to not hear those names on a regular basis.

The GOP leadership is almost entirely old white men, sure.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/17 "2020-10-12T05:20:19Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I mean you have to be living under a rock to not hear those names on a regular basis.

Switzerland is mostly rock. 🙂

In English news? Certainly. In other languages? Not as much.

My hairdresser speaks very few words in English. That means her only access to the news is from Swiss or German news articles. Since the beginning of the year, the news is 80% Coronavirus (slight exaggeration), which leaves very little time for international news.

If she were more interested in politics, or the U.S., she might know more. But the 10 minute news only includes a minute for the top names in the presidential election, which are all old white men, including Saunders. And it seems that the news she watches is pro-Trump.

Based on 4 years ago, I will soon want to go into hiding. For many of the people I know, I am the only American they know, so they will be asking me what I think. Fortunately I’ll be mostly working from home then.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/18 "2020-10-12T05:21:59Z")

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_In English news? Certainly. In other languages? Not as much._

I did not know you were in Switzerland, but hasnt Kamala Harris reached the news even over there?

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/19 "2020-10-12T05:37:17Z")

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My location is in my profile, but I know most people don’t look at those. 😁

There are certainly articles about Harris. In Switzerland is not a big deal that a woman could be elected to a higher position. The current (mostly ceremonial) president of Switzerland is a woman.

My main point, is that for someone who is not so interested in American politics, Trump/Biden/Saunders are the main names. Even most of the articles that did mention Pelosi were about the impeachment of Trump.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-her-majesty-please-take-us-back/922634/20 "2020-10-12T18:13:54Z")

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There is no candidate from either party named Saunders FWIW.
