# Would Israel have been a viable country if the Palestinians had accepted the UN partition plan? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 5, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462 "2024-10-05T00:08:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/21 "2024-10-08T21:28:55Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Is Egypt even Arab? That’s a contentious topic even in Egypt! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/22 "2024-10-08T21:30:34Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > Because there was a Jewish community in Morocco for over 1000 years, and they weren’t driven out before? There was nowhere better to go to. > [@DemonTree](#): > > And because the US had more-or-less open immigration for decades and a couple of million Jewish people emigrated there from Eastern Europe, but more remained behind The US was by no means “open” to immigration, certainly not to Jews, and CERTAINLY not to brown Jews from the middle east. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/23 "2024-10-08T22:15:36Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > There was nowhere better to go to. Wouldn’t stop Morocco expelling them. Spain did. > [@Babale](#): > > The US was by no means “open” to immigration, certainly not to Jews, and CERTAINLY not to brown Jews from the middle east. Were there actual laws against it? I visited Ellis Island in the summer and I don’t remember any being mentioned until towards the end of the 19th century, and then immigration to America was severely restricted in 1924. Can’t find anything on Google, either. The cost of getting there and presence of a local community for support were presumably factors, but plenty of Jews were able to emigrate to America from Eastern Europe. Just not nearly all. My point is that many people will emigrate if there is somewhere better to go, and more if they are at risk where they live, but you don’t get near-total population transfer unless they are forced out. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/24 "2024-10-08T23:27:38Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The US was by no means “open” to immigration, certainly not to Jews, and CERTAINLY not to brown Jews from the middle east. It was when my ancestors came here. > [@DemonTree](#): > > The cost of getting there and presence of a local community for support were presumably factors Yup. It was really when trans-Atlantic travel got cheap enough that masses of people immigrated to the US that the US impose immigration limits. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/25 "2024-10-09T14:15:24Z")
While I know a lot of the thread is focused on Israel, I’ve always gotten the idea that Jordan didn’t exactly welcome them with open arms, and that they’re still second-class citizens there. Feel free to set me straight if I’m off. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/26 "2024-10-09T14:34:13Z")
The League of Nations approved a memorandum restricting the Jewish homeland to west of the Jordan, so it’s fair to say the British administration did not exactly welcome them. Three are no restrictions on Jews in Jordan _now_. Though how many Jordanian citizens are Jews, who knows— it’s understandable if they do not want to openly announce it. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/27 "2024-10-09T14:36:04Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > Three are no restrictions on Jews in Jordan _now_. Though how many Jordanian citizens are Jews, who knows— it’s understandable if they do not want to openly announce it. Pretty sure he’s referring to the Palestinians who ended up in Jordan but aren’t Jordanian citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462/28 "2024-10-09T14:42:06Z")
Yes. My bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-israel-have-been-a-viable-country-if-the-palestinians-had-accepted-the-un-partition-plan/1008462.md?page=1)