# Would it be evil for me to give Jehovah Witnesses handouts from JWFacts.com when they come here? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774 "2014-08-17T20:41:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/141 "2014-08-20T23:19:18Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Temple services are private. Meeting houses are equivalent to regular churches and are open. So I’ve heard. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/142 "2014-08-21T00:00:51Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > So I’ve heard. So then you know why your comparison was nonsensical. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/143 "2014-08-21T00:19:16Z")
So what am I supposed to do now? Declare myself a fool and shut up? :mad::mad: ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/144 "2014-08-21T00:39:02Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > So what am I supposed to do now? Declare myself a fool and shut up? :mad::mad: One could only hope - you’ve proven it often enough. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/145 "2014-08-21T01:08:38Z")
:Sigh: If I want a smart-aleck answer I’ll muster one without your sparkling wit. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/146 "2014-08-21T01:12:04Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > :Sigh: If I want a smart-aleck answer I’ll muster one without your sparkling wit. doubtful. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/147 "2014-08-21T01:22:10Z")
Don’t count on it. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/148 "2014-08-21T01:40:09Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Don’t count on it. I know you are, but what am I? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/149 "2014-08-21T01:42:17Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Don’t count on it. wow - truly thou art gifted. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/150 "2014-08-21T01:44:57Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I know you are, but what am I? Glad to meet you, Pee Wee Herman.😛 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/151 "2014-08-21T03:41:56Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Oh, thanks, Stickler, you saved me a trip to the library. 🙂 > > To all: I do not apologize for my choice of dictionary. The one I have at home is a 2 0 - year-old Random House. > I will study your post and give you an answer within a few hours–not ‘quick and dirty.’ Still waiting. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/152 "2014-08-21T05:12:25Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Still waiting. Oh, all right. I admit I’ve been putting it off. But I was away all evening and had no chance to go back to that post. I promise I’ll take it up in the morning. :o ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/153 "2014-08-21T05:50:00Z")
TWEET! Stop the snark and insults immediately. Take any and all beefs with each other to the Pit. Any more cutting remarks or drive by replies that do nothing but snark at each other will be warned. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/154 "2014-08-21T20:26:39Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Not what I asked or implied - There is a difference between making an “error” and outright lieing or stating mistruths. I would ask for a cite or reference to the Watchtower outright admitting a lie - but most of the time, what they really do is simply change direction and never look back - when called on it - they call it “the light getting brighter”. > > What I am talking about here is [outright deception and lies](http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php#Lying) - things that can not be called a “mistake” or “error” - > > Remember - > > [ANd have been shown, repeatedly, to quote many of these sources incompletely, , mis-quoting them in such a way as to have you believe the source is stating the exact opposite, or in some cases very selectively quoting a part that may ‘agree’ with the point while ignoring the rest of the work that shows it to be false.](http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php#Misquoting) > > This I find highly suspect - to the point that I would say that I find it highly improbable that an \*\*\*Elder \*\*\*asked you to do outside research - given that the Watchtower Organization thru out its history has specifically warned and advised against it - > > and that, on the given subject, you could do enough research as to back up the JW teaching on the subject - [given this is one of the many things they have been the clearly dishonest about - using the techniques I outlined above.](http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php#Cross) > > But - with all that - you still avoided the very simple question I asked you - > > What - in your own words - is a lie? > > Would you knowingly associate with an individual - or group - that were shown to be liars? > > After all - I went to that link. I have seen things like that before, years ago. I am not impressed. Lies? From your point of view, maybe, considering what I see as an ulterior motive–to drag me down to conformity with your ilk, or leave me in a state of emotional damage that you can enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/155 "2014-08-21T20:28:10Z")
Did you check your dictionary? ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/156 "2014-08-21T20:56:01Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Did you check your dictionary? No need to-- I used the definition you guys gave me; remember? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/157 "2014-08-21T21:01:18Z")
That was worth waiting a day and a half for. You can’t get that kind of incisive commentary with brief perusals. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/158 "2014-08-21T21:03:53Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > That was worth waiting a day and a half for. You can’t get that kind of incisive commentary with brief perusals. Kinda like when your waiting on the phone for someone to check availability of an item - you just know they really took that long to review inventory levels. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/159 "2014-08-21T21:11:05Z")
I TOLD you these things can’t be rushed. Still, I should have kept my promise. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774/160 "2014-08-21T21:13:54Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > I went to that link. I have seen things like that before, years ago. I am not impressed. Lies? From your point of view, maybe, considering what I see as an ulterior motive–to drag me down to conformity with your ilk, or leave me in a state of emotional damage that you can enjoy. Mis-quoting sources - so as to give the impression opposite of the source material - is an outright lie - the link has numerous references of that type - including misquoting its own literature. How can that be a “point of view”? Let me give an example - [QUOTE= Watchtower - Trinity Brochure] “The Encyclopedia Americana notes that the doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be 'beyond the grasp of human reason.” (ti p.4) [/QUOTE] The actual quote - [QUOTE=Encyclopedia Americana] “It is held that although the doctrine is beyond the grasp of human reason, it is, like many of the formulations of physical science, not contrary to reason, and may be apprehended (though it may not be comprehended) by the human mind”. [/QUOTE] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-evil-for-me-to-give-jehovah-witnesses-handouts-from-jwfacts-com-when-they-come-here/695774.md?page=9)