# Would it be possible to make a nicotine vape fluid with no visible vapor?

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**Created:** [May 21, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-make-a-nicotine-vape-fluid-with-no-visible-vapor/720471 "2015-05-21T03:08:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-make-a-nicotine-vape-fluid-with-no-visible-vapor/720471/1 "2015-05-21T03:08:52Z")

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I know the style seems to be for bigger and bigger “clouds” but honestly I’d much prefer invisible vape fluid, as is indoors I try to hold a pull in for thirty seconds at least so when I exhale the vapor is nearly invisible.

It isn’t banned or anything where I am just I want the nicotine, I could not care less how visible the vapor is to myself or others.

How hard would it be to make “stealth” vape fluid?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-make-a-nicotine-vape-fluid-with-no-visible-vapor/720471/2 "2015-05-21T14:55:05Z")

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I don’t know, but seeing the vapor is part of the enjoyment for me. It seems as though I were really smoking.

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**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-make-a-nicotine-vape-fluid-with-no-visible-vapor/720471/3 "2015-05-21T15:31:10Z")

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There have been a few companies selling it. Here’s an video of the first one: [JAC Vapour](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhZX8cH40Ak)

It is just standard old-fashioned 100% PG eliquid with some distilled water added. The trendy, modern eliquids have a lot of VG to produce the huge clouds.

The vaporless stuff has not been very successful commercially and is hard to find. Easy enough to just buy [straight PG based nicotine](https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/nicotine-base-flavorings/nicotine-solutions/unflavored-nicotine-smoke-juice-e-liquid-liter-sale.html) and add more PG and some distilled water to dilute it to the strength you want – that’s what I do. I mostly don’t even bother adding flavoring; the stuff tastes fine to me without it.

Notice that the nicotine base in my link is for a liter of 100mg juice. Dilute that to 12mg and you get over 8 liters of ellquid for the price some brands charge for a 30 milliliter bottle. The markup on the fancy flavored stuff is insane.