# Would it be possible to supply enough venison to make a regular fast foot item. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 17, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092 "2017-10-17T00:26:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/81 "2017-10-20T13:46:30Z")
Well, I’ve had reindeer three times, and all three times it was tough and dry and a bit gamy. Once in Norway, twice in Finland. I guess I should try again. Ostrich is okay so long as it’s not over-cooked, although it’s leaner than I prefer. Maybe I need to find reindeer served rarer. Elk is superb, though. Again, in my very limited experience. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/82 "2017-10-20T14:37:12Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Herding is still a form of agriculture - this is no different than cattle in the Old West. Plus I’ve seen some fully domesticated draft reindeer which live on farms in Finland year-round. Not as many as the freeroaming stock, but they are even physically different, I was told. For that matter, a lot of cows in India as recently as a couple decades ago (probably less true now) would be allowed to roam free to forage during the day and then come home at night. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/83 "2017-10-20T14:41:55Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > The preference/availability for venison as a general thing in England is interesting. Trying to think why…the class memory of venison (always the mark of the upper class table, if not forbidden to most inhabitants) stuck with it, and being available for peons was part of its success gastronomically?[SIZE] I’ve heard that because of high population density and the feudal structure, hunting became a very much elite practice in Western Europe in the early modern period, whereas in North America and eastern Europe it was much more of the culture for ordinary people. In a place like Michigan today, deer hunting is definitely not an ‘elite’ pursuit (although it’s not really something really poor people would do either since the expense is not trivial). One interesting thing about Michigan is that hunting seems to be more popular among white people, not really sure about why that is (at least, none of my Black friends there ever mentioned they hunted deer, while a lot of my white friends did). ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/84 "2017-10-20T15:42:38Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > One interesting thing about Michigan is that hunting seems to be more popular among white people, not really sure about why that is (at least, none of my Black friends there ever mentioned they hunted deer, while a lot of my white friends did). Tradition and experience. Certainly, some people take up hunting even if their parents didn’t, but that seems to be fairly unusual. Nearly all of the hunters I know learned how to do it when they were young, mostly from their father or other close relative. It’s also a rural pastime, for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/85 "2017-10-20T16:42:13Z")
“Jews don’t hunt, they shop.” –Somebody or other. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/86 "2017-10-20T16:59:21Z")
Hunting is popular among some groups like Hmong. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/87 "2017-10-21T01:44:22Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > Tradition and experience. Certainly, some people take up hunting even if their parents didn’t, but that seems to be fairly unusual. Nearly all of the hunters I know learned how to do it when they were young, mostly from their father or other close relative. It’s also a rural pastime, for the most part. Well, sort of. It’s also a small-city pastime, and there are lots of Black people in Michigan small cities. I think Benton Harbor at 90% Black (in the fairly hunting-enthusiastic southwest Michigan region) is possibly the highest percentage of any American city. Someone suggested to me that Black people in the midwest have roots in the south, and pre-civil rights era they were forbidden to own guns (through extrajudicial violence) so they never really developed a hunting culture, and prefer to fish instead. That might be part of it. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/88 "2017-10-21T18:55:38Z")
In lots of places, a black man with a gun is likely to be murdered, because someone is frightened by his presence. I imagine that makes hunting a little less appealing. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/89 "2017-10-21T22:30:12Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > In lots of places, a black man with a gun is likely to be murdered, because someone is frightened by his presence. I imagine that makes hunting a little less appealing. Citation needed ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/90 "2017-10-21T22:41:13Z")
Venison has always been a fast foot item. That’s what makes it hard to catch - that’s why it’s dear. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/91 "2017-10-21T22:46:35Z")
Maybe in England. Here in the US this is more what deer hunting is like: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKa0sgImaLs) As Ron says, that’s one elusive creature. NOT! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/92 "2017-10-21T22:46:42Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > In lots of places, a black man with a gun is likely to be murdered, because someone is frightened by his presence. I imagine that makes hunting a little less appealing. **Moderator Note** Let’s refrain from political commentary like this. No warning issued, but stick to the subject. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/93 "2017-10-22T00:30:39Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Venison has always been a fast foot item. That’s what makes it hard to catch - that’s why it’s dear. \ Note to the SDMB regulars - that it took 90 posts to catch this bothers me a great deal - c’mon people! ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/94 "2017-10-22T17:37:56Z")
For those curious, here’s a couple honest shots of the Arby’s sandwich: [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/7ttsjIL.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/Qjh3w) ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/95 "2017-10-22T17:52:46Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > some Costcos near me (Detroit area) have whole lambs in the freezer. Here in the Chicago suburbs, too. I have dreams of someday building some kind of rig in the backyard that could handle roasting a whole lamb… ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/96 "2017-10-22T17:56:23Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > My understanding is sheep are harder to raise in the grain-fed, intensive factory farming model by which we raise most pigs, poultry and (for part of their lives) cows in the US. That makes them more appealing to me (i.e. in terms of being more humanely raised on pasture), but also inherently more expensive than e.g. beef or pork. (Until such time as we pass stronger laws against factory farming). Actually, I guess maybe because we have large immigrant populations in Chicago from lamb-eating countries, lamb and beef are priced comparably here. When I’ve seen the whole Costco frozen lambs, they run around $3/lb. When we buy red meat, it’s lamb more often than beef - lamb leg chops or shoulder chops where we shop run $45 - 6/lb., and analogous cuts of beef are more expensive than that. ---
**Author:** ![MacLir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@MacLir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacLir)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/97 "2017-11-06T17:04:10Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Huh, we have rabbits coming out our ears. I see a rabbit everytime I look at the back yard, and I’ve seen as many as six at once, grazing my lawn. > > I’d be happy to have a way to harvest them. But the houses are way to close here for gun hunting, even if I knew how to handle one. Higher end pellet gun should do the trick; you can buy them in .22 caliber. Muzzle velocity is a bit less, if I recall correctly, but you probably aren’t going for long range targets. ---
**Author:** ![MacLir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@MacLir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacLir)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/98 "2017-11-06T17:30:20Z")
[Apropos You-Tube song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfW2tYIn8-Q) :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![MacLir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@MacLir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacLir)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/99 "2017-11-06T17:32:56Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > Fun-fact fact check: moose are the largest land animals in North America, right? Largest cervid (deer-type critter) for sure. ---
**Author:** ![MacLir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@MacLir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacLir)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/100 "2017-11-06T17:38:22Z")
[Good video on domestication](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmjnioNulo) :dubious: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092.md?page=6)