# Would it be possible to supply enough venison to make a regular fast foot item. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 17, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092 "2017-10-17T00:26:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/101 "2017-11-06T17:43:22Z")
> [@MacLir](#): > > Higher end pellet gun should do the trick; you can buy them in .22 caliber. Muzzle velocity is a bit less, if I recall correctly, but you probably aren’t going for long range targets. Check your local laws. Ours forbid both powder and air based in congested areas. So a pellet gun in the city is the same as a boomstick, legally speaking. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/102 "2017-11-06T18:28:14Z")
> [@MacLir](#): > > [Good video on domestication](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmjnioNulo) :dubious: that was actually pretty amusing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/103 "2017-11-06T19:07:45Z")
Agree. Well worth a click and 6 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![j\_sum1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@j\_sum1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j_sum1)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/104 "2017-11-07T05:06:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > There are a few bat species native to NZ. Flying has it’s advantages. 😉 Um… Just one. But NZ bats are flightless (and about the size of a thumb). That is it for native NZ terrestrial mammals. ---
**Author:** ![Thuringwethil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Thuringwethil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thuringwethil)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/105 "2017-11-08T18:33:37Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > I saw quite a number of deer in farms down in New Zealand - especially, IIRC the south island. I recall reading they were imported, to keep hunters amused in the days before the danger of alien species was truly understood. But - I haven’t heard of any directed breeding programs intended to select for traits - docile, meat production, etc. NPR had a story about this and they confirmed that the venison served at Arby’s came from New Zealand deer farms. ---
**Author:** ![Muscleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Muscleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muscleman)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/106 "2017-11-08T18:34:53Z")
I am not sure tbh ---
**Author:** ![HenryG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb8c5e/32.png) [@HenryG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HenryG)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/107 "2017-11-17T10:24:04Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > … in the US, we seem to have … other animals that are seldom eaten by anyone on a large scale (farmed rabbits, farmed deer, goats, sheep, etc.). Not being a US resident I can’t pass judgement on the accuracy of the statement with respect to sheep. If it is accurate, it is astounding. In Europe and Australasia sheep consumption is high (and not just by impoverished peasants). I pity the Yanks if they don’t have access to cheap lamb, hogget and mutton - they don’t know what they are missing. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/108 "2017-11-17T10:42:08Z")
Lamb consumption is fairly common. Many people treat it as a special occasion thing, but again every supermarket has it. Mutton is almost completely unknown in the US. This is the first time I’ve heard the word hogget. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/109 "2017-11-17T10:55:06Z")
> [@HenryG](#): > > Not being a US resident I can’t pass judgement on the accuracy of the statement with respect to sheep. If it is accurate, it is astounding. In Europe and Australasia sheep consumption is high (and not just by impoverished peasants). I pity the Yanks if they don’t have access to cheap lamb, hogget and mutton - they don’t know what they are missing. People do eat lamb in the U.S. but it isn’t that common. Mutton isn’t really available at all (I have never had it or even seen it for sale) and I didn’t even know the term “hogget” until I looked it up. You also aren’t going to find any goat (extremely rare) or horse meat (unheard of) in a U.S. supermarket either. You would have better luck looking for alligator, ostrich, bison, turtle or even rattlesnake meat (seriously). Different countries have their preferred meats and there are a lot of cultural biases that determine which ones are acceptable and which ones aren’t. I used to work in the headquarters of a large supermarket chain that had an exotic meat section. Vendors tried to sell us all kinds of weird things including venison but never mutton. There is simply almost no demand for it in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/110 "2017-11-17T15:55:19Z")
To be clear, ‘mutton’ means different things in different countrys. It means older sheep meat in England, but it means goat in India. I’ve seen goat meat in some specialty supermarkets, but you won’t find it at Meijer or Walmart. ---
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/111 "2017-11-17T18:50:48Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > To be clear, ‘mutton’ means different things in different countrys. It means older sheep meat in England, but it means goat in India. > > I’ve seen goat meat in some specialty supermarkets, but you won’t find it at Meijer or Walmart. I was in a Costco in Minneapolis a year or two ago and they had halal complete dressed goat carcass. I went to an Outback a few months ago and they had dropped rack of lamb from the menu. Rack of lamb or lamb chops is typically the only sheep you’d see on the menu in North America. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092/112 "2017-11-17T21:09:02Z")
> [@HenryG](#): > > Not being a US resident I can’t pass judgement on the accuracy of the statement with respect to sheep. If it is accurate, it is astounding. In Europe and Australasia sheep consumption is high (and not just by impoverished peasants). I pity the Yanks if they don’t have access to cheap lamb, hogget and mutton - they don’t know what they are missing. > [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Lamb consumption is fairly common. Many people treat it as a special occasion thing, but again every supermarket has it. > > Mutton is almost completely unknown in the US. > > This is the first time I’ve heard the word hogget. Earlier in this thread we had a pretty good digression about lamb availability in the US. It might be worth **HenryG** ’s time to go back and see what was said. Bottom line in the US: It’s highly regional; in some areas most supermarkets carry at least chops year round and in other areas it’s only a holiday item or never seen in any form. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-be-possible-to-supply-enough-venison-to-make-a-regular-fast-foot-item/799092.md?page=5)