# Would it hurt Hillary if she came out of the closet? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676 "2016-02-21T06:34:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/41 "2016-02-22T00:21:17Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Just because he used “their” and “alot” in the first sentence? Well, OK, but if he calls those things that stop the car “breaks” I’m going to have to ask one of the Mods to put their foot down. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/42 "2016-02-22T01:18:36Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > It’s tough to see you in such pain, **Urbanredneck**. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No it isn’t. 😉 Then perhas . . . > [@](#): > > (\*\*NOT \*\*Originally Posted by Randolph, but I wish it had been) > > It’s **hard** to see you in such pain, **Urbanredneck**. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/43 "2016-02-22T02:47:27Z")
It’s **hard** to see you in such pain, **Urbanredneck**. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/44 "2016-02-22T03:01:05Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I think this is more along the lines of: She’s got the women vote, lesbians are women, therefore HIllary’s a lesbian. > > She’s also got the Latino vote, so she must be Latino too. :rolleyes: Actually, Bernie may be doing better than expected among latinos. But she still has a lead among older caucus and primary voters. Maybe Hillary is–gasp!–old! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/45 "2016-02-22T03:22:12Z")
I try not to hold someone’s lack of education against them. Really I do. But the OP really is an uneducated moron. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/46 "2016-02-22T03:41:54Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Well, that nails it. A spurned lover certainly has no reason to lie about her ex’s wife. Gennifer Flowers claimed that Bill told her the same thing in her tell-all book. Specifically, she claimed he said “Hillary’s had more pussy than me”. I don’t give it an ounce of credit since A)She came across as willing to say anything that would get her money and B)even if what she said was true, it’s hardly unusual for men cheating on their wives to make up excuses. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/47 "2016-02-22T03:43:09Z")
If I heard Hillary had come out as a lesbian I’d figure some focus group determined most voters wanted a lesbian for president. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/48 "2016-02-22T05:03:06Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Their is alot of speculation that Hillary is a secret lesbian. > > I wonder, lets say she openly admitted to it. Would that really hurt her any? I mean people that hate her now would still hate her and the people who love her, probably would not care. So frankly I doubt it would be a game changer if she came out and admitted her marriage was one of more convenience which I think most people suspect anyways. > > What do you all think? I’m going to take this question in a straight up, face value, hypothetical sort of way. It would fucking ruin her. Pundits would ask about how she lied about her sexuality for so long. The right would have a field day, and most of the moderate left would also abandon her. It would be a fucking disaster. Can you imagine the media circus? I don’t believe for a second she is, though. But as long as we are dealing in hypotheticals, what if it came out that Trump has a rent-boy? Some 24 year old Mexican gym-rat. Trump’s so teflon, I wonder if he might pull that off. “We ARE going to build a wall. They ARE going to pay for it… and I’ll TELL YOU WHY!” _::crowd cheers::_ “The Mexicans don’t fuck US! We fuck THEM!” _::massive applause::_ ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/49 "2016-02-22T05:20:56Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I think there’s a much greater chance that Hillary is asexual rather than being a lesbian. Simply put her career is vastly more important to her than any relationship or sexual satisfaction. You need to be married to ensure success as a politician so she is, thats just pragmatic. But it’s no ones business except her and Bills. Ok, I can see that. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/50 "2016-02-22T05:25:03Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > It would destroy her, but the official reason wouldn’t be because of being a lesbian. It would be because she’s been living a lie and deceiving the American people with her hetero marriage all this time, etc. Although I could see even some gay people being upset about that aspect, if she was compromising who she was for the sake of ‘appearances’ and political gain. Ok, I can see people going back over every speech about her relationship with Bill and pointing out all the lies. But then she has such a good spin machine I’d bet odds they will turn it into something like how brave she is. I mean look how the media fawned over Bruce Jenner’s change and said how brave he was. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/51 "2016-02-22T05:26:50Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I try not to hold someone’s lack of education against them. Really I do. But the OP really is an uneducated moron. I take it you would defend Hillary no matter what. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/52 "2016-02-22T05:27:16Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Ok, I can see that. So I take it that will be the next sleazy rumor you’ll be passing along disguised as something you heard from “other people”? ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/53 "2016-02-22T05:29:38Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I try not to hold someone’s lack of education against them. Really I do. But the OP really is an uneducated moron. It’s every damn thread. From GQ today: > [@WWII aerial battle overhead!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wwii-aerial-battle-overhead/746590/30): > > Then their would be the excitement of seeing parachutes. Plus sometimes fighter battles went down low. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/54 "2016-02-22T05:56:21Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > But then she has such a good spin machine I’d bet odds they will turn it into something like how brave she is. I mean look how the media fawned over Bruce Jenner’s change and said how brave he was. No, it would fucking ruin her. You know that. If your hypothetical were true, the circus would be relentless. Any policies she might want to talk about? Well, good luck. Nobody cares. TMZ is now camping out on Chelsea’s front lawn. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/55 "2016-02-22T06:02:32Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > It’s **hard** to see you in such pain, **Urbanredneck**. Tee-hee-hee! 😃 (Claps hands together in childish delight) ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/56 "2016-02-22T06:30:05Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > It didn’t help the rumors when the Hillary e-mails had Huma calling her beautiful and talking about eating mangoes together. No way…really? Or, am I whooshed, again? ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/57 "2016-02-22T06:31:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So I take it that will be the next sleazy rumor you’ll be passing along disguised as something you heard from “other people”? Lame. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/58 "2016-02-22T06:35:21Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I think there’s a much greater chance that Hillary is asexual rather than being a lesbian. Simply put her career is vastly more important to her than any relationship or sexual satisfaction. You need to be married to ensure success as a politician so she is, thats just pragmatic. But it’s no ones business except her and Bills. At that age, tho, don’t a lot of women become asexual? BTW, who is to say that it’s no one’s business except for her and Bill? You’re trying to steal the high road by regurgitating some fundamental aphorism. And, maybe it is a legal thing…has the SC ruled on all aspects of sexuality in re the law? Would you like a President who carelessly violates the laws? (bwahaha) ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/59 "2016-02-22T07:53:36Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Personally I think she reminds me of the first lady on that show “House of Cards” who prefers women but keeps up appearances with her husband because it looks better for the cameras. Maybe I missed something, but in my years of watching that show I’ve only seen the first lady with other men, including an obviously gay one (not counting her husband). Now that I think about it, she seems to have a thing for bi-men, but they seem to both treat sex as a power thing above all else. As far as Clinton goes, maybe I’m wrong, but if she were a lesbian I think she might get some flack for opposing same sex marriage and other anti-gay policies. I mean she does/should now, but I’ve always heard people call gay Republicans hypocrites, and fair is fair. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676/60 "2016-02-22T10:15:41Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > Maybe I missed something, but in my years of watching that show I’ve only seen the first lady with other men, including an obviously gay one (not counting her husband). Now that I think about it, she seems to have a thing for bi-men, but they seem to both treat sex as a power thing above all else. Ok, you got me there. going back over the shows Wiki I thought Claire had a female lover but it turns out I was wrong. Sorry on that point. However their is a resemblance between the Underwoods and the Clintons in that both are a power hungry couple. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-it-hurt-hillary-if-she-came-out-of-the-closet/746676.md?page=4)